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    I read on a forum that tricept kickbacks are on the top 50 exercises not to due in the gym because they are considered easy, "girly", "wussy"
    What are other opinions on tricept kickbacks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cary K
    I read on a forum that tricept kickbacks are on the top 50 exercises not to due in the gym because they are considered easy, "girly", "wussy"
    What are other opinions on tricept kickbacks?
    Psh i hit db kickbacks all the time. I get the best tricep contraction.
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    Don't know if I would call them a wussy exercise, they have their place in bb'ing I guess. I don't do them, not a bb'er
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    Definitely a good isolation exercise if you do those kinds of things. They're probably considering them "wussy" because most people don't do them right. You have to do them slowly with a big contraction at the end of the rep which means that you should be using a light(er) weight for it. People probably just try and get high weight as fast as possible and do them for crap and then deem them a "bad exercise."
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    I don't think they are a wussy exercise, but I would rather spend my time doing more compound movements. A lot of people seem to be moving away from iso movements.
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    Ok, so what are a few of your favorite tri exercises?
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    Weighted dips
    Skull crushers
    Close grip BP

    That's about as far as my tricep exercises go. Maybe Tricep Extensions if I'm really in the mood some day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cary K
    Ok, so what are a few of your favorite tri exercises?
    Skull crushers
    Heavy tri ext
    Db kicks
    Over head db ext
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    Can't really do dips because of my surgically reconstructed shoulders. I can do them but can't go all the way down, so it kinda defeats the purpose of doing them if I can't do them right.
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    You're not suppose to go all the way down realistically. My shoulders are bad and I only go until my arms make a 90 degree angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broda View Post
    You're not suppose to go all the way down realistically. My shoulders are bad and I only go until my arms make a 90 degree angle.
    Ok, I'm doing chest and tri's today, I may try some more dips and see how it feels
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    Or maybe the pullup/dip machine that you can add weight to make it easier to do them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broda View Post
    Weighted dips
    Skull crushers
    Close grip BP

    That's about as far as my tricep exercises go. Maybe Tricep Extensions if I'm really in the mood some day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cary K View Post
    Or maybe the pullup/dip machine that you can add weight to make it easier to do them.
    That could work pretty well as a warm up if you worked your way up to unassisted. Just make sure that you do controlled negatives because if you go down too fast and don't have the strength to stop yourself is when you can mess up your shoulder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broda View Post
    That could work pretty well as a warm up if you worked your way up to unassisted. Just make sure that you do controlled negatives because if you go down too fast and don't have the strength to stop yourself is when you can mess up your shoulder.
    For sure man, thanks
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    close bench with chains are the best!!
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    Weighted dips for me. For both chest and tri's actually.
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    Bench, OHP, Dips and that's all folks. And my Triceps are huge. But I dip with 2 45lb plates hanging from my belt, so gotta move some weight I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broda View Post
    Definitely a good isolation exercise if you do those kinds of things. They're probably considering them "wussy" because most people don't do them right. You have to do them slowly with a big contraction at the end of the rep which means that you should be using a light(er) weight for it. People probably just try and get high weight as fast as possible and do them for crap and then deem them a "bad exercise."
    This is True! In actual fact the tricep kick back position is the only one that allows you to fully contract your triceps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cary K
    I read on a forum that tricept kickbacks are on the top 50 exercises not to due in the gym because they are considered easy, "girly", "wussy"
    What are other opinions on tricept kickbacks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    This is True! In actual fact the tricep kick back position is the only one that allows you to fully contract your triceps.
    I'm not sure what you mean by this?

    On another note, the tricep kickback resembles a single arm triceps press down, the only difference is in the kickback your rear and lat/teres major complex has to be strong enough to keep the shoulder extended to keep the upper arm locked in place...which can be problematic for many people, especially when they start using a lot of weight.

    On a side note, the long head of the triceps is the only one that is not fully recruited during pressing movements since it crosses the shoulder joint (its also the largest of the three). IMO the only isolation tricep exercise you need is one where the shoulder is flexed such that the long head is pre-stretched in order to recruit. I.e.: lying triceps extensions with the elbows kept in at shoulder width.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiR RED View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean by this?

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    Essentially, I mean that the triceps can only be fully contracted when your arm is behind you (past the line of your torso) compared to when it is at your side. I'm not saying the triceps cant be contracted at your side, but the contraction is stronger then they are behind you.

    Try this: in a standing position, flex your tricep as hard as you can by your side, hold and squeeze. Now, with it still contracted move your arm as far as you can behind you and feel the contraction intensify. Then move it back down and you will feel the contraction unintensify.

    So with Kickbacks I only bend over 45 degrees. However I still put my tricep parallel to the floor. This helps achieve that contraction.
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    tricep kickbacks may be wussy...but try doing them at the end of your tricep work....make sure you squeeze at the extended position and let the pumps go crazy

    not the best excercise for mass imo but still a useful exercise
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    i just wonder what a tricept even is?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    Essentially, I mean that the triceps can only be fully contracted when your arm is behind you (past the line of your torso) compared to when it is at your side. I'm not saying the triceps cant be contracted at your side, but the contraction is stronger then they are behind you.

    Try this: in a standing position, flex your tricep as hard as you can by your side, hold and squeeze. Now, with it still contracted move your arm as far as you can behind you and feel the contraction intensify. Then move it back down and you will feel the contraction unintensify.

    So with Kickbacks I only bend over 45 degrees. However I still put my tricep parallel to the floor. This helps achieve that contraction.
    I see what you are saying. The reason for that is because of reciprical inhibition via the biceps, which gets stretched when the shoulder is hyper-extended. But I'm not sure how much it would actually effect muscular recruitment of the short and medial head of the triceps which do not cross the shoulder joint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiR RED View Post
    I see what you are saying. The reason for that is because of reciprical inhibition via the biceps, which gets stretched when the shoulder is hyper-extended. But I'm not sure how much it would actually effect muscular recruitment of the short and medial head of the triceps which do not cross the shoulder joint.
    you know most people are look at that and going, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!?!?!? lol. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiR RED View Post
    I see what you are saying. The reason for that is because of reciprical inhibition via the biceps, which gets stretched when the shoulder is hyper-extended. But I'm not sure how much it would actually effect muscular recruitment of the short and medial head of the triceps which do not cross the shoulder joint.
    I see it as a good way to isolate the tricep and make it contract harder than usual. Its not a main exersise due to the light weight having to be lifted, But its a good high rep set for the end every now and then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asooneyeonig View Post
    you know most people are look at that and going, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!?!?!? lol. :P
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    I'm not a fan for me because I tend to cheat if I try to do them. I prefer DB skulls or a similar extension from the floor
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    weighted close grip pushups are a killer if you do them right, or weighted seated dips,i know this may sound crazy but i get an awesome pump from both of those
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    Outside of pressing and push ups, my choice for tricep accessory is supine pull over and press. The pull over works the long head (crosses the shoulder) and then you have the press as well. I'm more in this game for function and performance though so I don't often use isolation exercises beyond addressing weak point
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerdb2 View Post
    Outside of pressing and push ups, my choice for tricep accessory is supine pull over and press. The pull over works the long head (crosses the shoulder) and then you have the press as well. I'm more in this game for function and performance though so I don't often use isolation exercises beyond addressing weak point
    i do that with DBs. i love em.
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    i love tricep kickbacks with a db or cable..they just give a great pump, burn and even size!!!...if you dont agree, then suck my dick because that feels really good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImHereforFun View Post
    i love tricep kickbacks with a db or cable..they just give a great pump, burn and even size!!!...if you dont agree, then suck my dick because that feels really good.
    Thanks for adding something pertinent to the conversation....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiR RED View Post
    Thanks for adding something pertinent to the conversation....

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    Lold irl. On topic, close grip bench is my favorite tricep exercise and seems the most effective.
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    Rope extensions are another one that i like
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