lol congrats, you are an idiot!
Ok, I am seriously an idiot some times...
I have been wondering why using straps does not help me whatsoever when deadlifting. You would *think* that they are idiot proof... well let me introduce you to an idiot - ME!
I was wrapping OVER the bar not under and lets just say it doesnt work that way.
So... thank you for my biggest idiot award.
Feels good to increase your weight by just by figuring out common sense!
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lol congrats, you are an idiot!
atleast you didn't die.......... lol
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All the more reason not to use straps.
probably happened to more than would care to admit funny tho
My theory behind it is... If my back (the only muscle group i use straps for) can physically maintain and perform the given weight (heavy)... but my hands and perhaps forarms are fatigued... why sacrifice what could be a great back workout merely base on the fact that i dont want to use straps...? Also... In my humble, yet not quite as knoweldgable opinion, lol I find that straps help you focus on your form better and eliminate the incorporation of other body parts that you do not intend to work out (i.e. biceps on a lat pull down).
Now i agree that straps are FAR overused... and i dont use them until the weight finally gets heavy enough to warrant the need.... BUT i'm interested to know the reasoning why you (and many others i know) opt to NOT use straps when it would and does clearly assist in proper workout....
Thanks in advance for your input.
Oh... and to the OP... i was working out with a buddy just two days ago and he was doing the same exact thing! LOL Its more common than most realize! LOL
^ x 2, I completely agree every time that if my grip is my limiting factor; then i use straps. No use deadlifting 350 pounds when you can deadlift 550 with straps.
I went six months of suffering through double-overhand in the offseason for this same reason... Now I go under the bar and love my straps, lol.
Second, straps are very non-functional. As an athlete (someone who is not judged simply on physique) everything done outside of the gym requires grip strength and hand muscle coordination. Athletes require strong hands for any sport - football, basketball, track, wrestling, swimming, etc.
In everyday life, grip is essential. When the grip fails lifting an object, compensation occurs usually in the form of spinal flexion, and this either causes injury or leads to a degeneration of disks which will eventually result in injury.
That's my take on straps. Most do not actually need them, and those who use them often use them incorrectly.
lol, nice story bro. It's actually not all that uncommon for most people to not understand how to wrap the wraps around the bar properly. I think over the bar is the first instinct. But the rule of thumb is that you always wrap in the OPPOSITE direction that your fingers wrap around the bar. This means if you are using an under hand grip you actually would wrap over the bar. Keep this rule of thumb in mind for when you use wraps with DB's as well, as sometimes looking at a weight sideways as opposed to longways right in front of you can confuse you on which direction you need to wrap it.
You're right, that is my opinion, but it is based on more than n=1 hard training. It is based on working as a professional in the fitness, bodybuilding, and strength and conditioning field for nearly 8 years. In training for athletic performance, you'll be hard pressed to find any strength coach who advises (or even allows for that matter) his/her clients/teams to use straps.
I'll concede straps may have their purpose when training for competitive bodybuilding purposes.
With regard to dead lifts...
Dead lifts are a hip dominated exercise, and when done correctly require you to reset the hips and grip between reps. Very few people without some form professional instruction do dead lifts correctly or safely. Rounding the back on dead lifts won't normally result in an acute injury, but years of doing some results disk degeneration and possible herneation and/or rupture.
If your doing a double overhand just switch to a hook grips and drop the straps.
And zir. Are you saying that in order to do reps on deadlifts one should stand up and approach each rep as its own set? bc i always reset my hips and do a dead stop but wasnt aware of completely restarting for each rep.
However, you should regrip and reset hips, shoulder blades, and lower back. All too often I see people tapping the bar off the floor between reps, and the result is very negative indeed - hips elevate before shoulders, back round, and it becomes a dynamic spinal extension exercise versus a fixed spine hip extension movement.
EDIT: No straps
Good stuff here! and a civil debate i like that! I def agree for sports other than bodybuilding you prob should stay away from the straps... but as a bodybuilder myself i do use them on my back days, but only on certain movements. But even in bodybuilding there are pros that opt not to use straps.. i haven't seen kai greene use them in any video but there are guys like Jay and Ronnie that always do.. all three had great backs.. I think you have to look at ultimately what's working for you as an individual.
I used to hate straps, until I realized my weak point was my thoracic lumbar area not my grip and working both sides of that area equally without a staggered grip takes precedence over chalking up every time.