CSCS and NSCA-CPT
- 10-27-2010, 07:08 AM
CSCS and NSCA-CPT
Looking to take these both early next year. i have the big 500+ page book and am reading through that right now and taking the study questions at the end of every chapter and making my own little test to study off of. What else would you advise to help get me ready for the test.
I am also trying to find a nutrition certification. Precision performance is not offering any right now. I am thinking just getting the ISSA one but am not sure whether to get sports nutrition or fitness nutrition. I just need any certification to write diets legally in illinois.ACSM-CPT
- 10-27-2010, 08:10 AM
If you're not proficient in Ex Phys, you'll fail both NSCA tests.M.Ed. Ex Phys
- 10-27-2010, 08:15 AM
Most of the stuff does not seem extremely complicated as of right now. So far my studying is consisting of
-Study guide based on questions in the book
-Outlining every term in the book (time consuming as hell)
-Ordering the pen and paper test
-debating ordering the audio CD.ACSM-CPT
10-27-2010, 08:22 AM
For the CSCS, you need to have a major in a related field (e.g. kinesiology, ex phys, athletic training, etc.) to even be eligible to take the test and be in your senior year as well. Most exercise science classes do not cover exercise physiology. A true ex phys class will have both a lab and a lecture because a lot of it is very hands-on material such as operating the metabolic cart.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
10-27-2010, 08:28 AM
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M.Ed. Ex Phys
10-27-2010, 08:44 AM
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10-27-2010, 08:53 AM
10-27-2010, 08:55 AM
Do you think having one or both will help with acceptance into a masters program?
10-27-2010, 09:05 AM
10-27-2010, 09:06 AM
10-27-2010, 03:33 PM
I took the CSCS test, didn't study one bit and passed it. I thought it was extremely easy. I took it about 2 years ago now, and you don't have to have a certain major to take it. However, I don't think you need a CPT and a CSCS cert. Choose one or the other depending on the population you're planning on working with. Fat loss/general - cpt Athletic/performance - CSCS. If you're not going to be working with anyone at the moment, either cert is worthless IMO. There is nothing on there that you shouldn't already know just from practicing strength training and following a structured program. What is your reasoning for taking either/both?
10-27-2010, 05:22 PM
I agree with WearRed on this one.
I have both, and I think the CPT was a waste of money.
As far as getting into grad-school, what do you want to go to grad school for?
I suggest you check out different schools, look into their programs, talk to their professors, etc. If you are going to be doing something clinical, then see what they offer for internships or how they will help you get internships.
If its more research based, such as exercise phyiosology, then talk to the professors and see what kind of research they are conducting. I'm in my 3rd year of a PhD program in exercise phsyiology, and am happy with my choice in grad school, especially since I have the freedom to choose the topics of my thesis and dissertation. Some schools you may be given a topic in line with what your advisor is working on.
If you are going on to grad school, then the CSCS cert would give you the biggest advantage in terms of a resume, and may be of benefit in recruiting subjects and passing internal review boards if you research involves an application of exercise.
10-28-2010, 04:05 AM
My main goal from grad school is kinesiology there is no just exercise science. Grad schools are interesting. WIU offers a lot and I mean a lot of ways to get paid for school plus tuition and has a very good program for those wanting to work as a strength coach. UIC offers a great clinical program and an easy to transfer to a doctorate where they will pay for a lot of it.
Here is how it goes I will finish my masters at in theory 27 and my doctorate at 29. Do I really want to be in school that long.... I was told no school will hire you as a professor without being a doctorate no matter how good your credits are.
10-28-2010, 06:55 AM
10-28-2010, 07:41 AM
The CPT is not that bad; I passed it when I was 19 with maybe a month of off and on studying and did not have a real grasp of ex phys at the time.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
10-28-2010, 11:33 AM
You should look into schools that have a strength and conditioning masters program. Springfield college (Mass) has a really good one, and a lot of grads are placed right after they graduate with collegiate or pro teams. A buddy of mine is working as an assistant strength coach for the Buffalo Bills.My main goal from grad school is kinesiology there is no just exercise science. Grad schools are interesting.
Long term goals of strength and conditioning coach while personal training on the side. Need these to do an internship at anyone of the Universities I want to go. I met with my department head yesterday and she said rack up papers like no other.
If your goal is S&C, then the CSCS will help. You'll also need formal education, generally a masters, and a lot of internship time as well as connections. Make sure the school you go to is accredited by the NSCA for strength and conditioning, and see what the professors/advisors have for contacts.
Next, I suggest you look into what it means to be a strength coach. The time, travel, and pay involved. I started my grad academic career wanting to be a strength coach at an elite level. However, while in school I found the hard science and the research and discovery of new material was more fascinating than the application and coaching. I also was dissuaded by the average work day (12 hours) and the pay. Also, realize, there is a big difference between being a personal trainer and a strength coach. You may be working with 20-30 athletes at one time as a S&C coach.
Most grad schools offer fellowships where tuition will be reimbursed, so I wouldn't make that your number one priority.WIU offers a lot and I mean a lot of ways to get paid for school plus tuition and has a very good program for those wanting to work as a strength coach. UIC offers a great clinical program and an easy to transfer to a doctorate where they will pay for a lot of it.
Yup, I will be finished with my PhD at 30. And yes, its not likely you'll get a job as a professor on the tenure track without a PhD.Here is how it goes I will finish my masters at in theory 27 and my doctorate at 29. Do I really want to be in school that long.... I was told no school will hire you as a professor without being a doctorate no matter how good your credits are.
But, if you want to be a professor, also realize you are going to be in school the REST of your life. Big colleges expect you to carry out experiments and publish in scholarly journals. its a lot of research and a lot of writing. If you don't enjoy researching and writing about topics within the exercise and sport sciences field, then I would heavily suggest against going on for the PhD.
10-29-2010, 05:15 PM
Having majored in Kines, the CSCS was basically a giant review of my accumulated knowledge. I found it difficult, but not overwhelming. On the other hand, I also know of class-mates on their 3rd and 4th attempt. I thought the CSCS contained a lot of exercise phys and biomechanics, at least my version was from what I remember.
I took it the first semester of my senior year and got it shortly after, which must have been a mistake somewhere, because I wasn't suppose to get it until I graduated. I took the computerized test, maybe that's why?
NSCA - CSCS
10-29-2010, 05:20 PM
Also, the private gyms around here pay more for a CSCS, then someone who is just a certified personal trainer, but that's not universal. The private gym I work actually pays you accordig to how many and what certifications you hold, but again, not universal. The more qualifications the better, imho (to an extent). Sometimes it's your arsenal of certs that edges out the next guy.
NSCA - CSCS
10-29-2010, 06:16 PM
10-29-2010, 08:23 PM
Hell, there are a good share of "S&C" gym owners in Orange County, CA who wear shirts that say Strength & Conditioning Coach and probably aren't even CPR certified, let alone CSCS. As long as it doesn't say Certified or NSCA on there, they can conduct business if they're owners.
NSCA - CSCS
10-29-2010, 08:29 PM
MBA = Masters of Business Administration. I still don't understand why someone would need an MBA to work as a college strength coach.
10-29-2010, 08:33 PM
10-30-2010, 01:44 AM
10-30-2010, 02:41 PM
I took the CSCS exam several years ago. I had a bachelor's degree in nutrition at the time. I studied the big NSCA textbook and got one exercise technique DVD and did well on the test. For a strength and conditioning job at a big school, a Master's degree will help. What will help even more is having internship experience and working with a program that is well connected in the S&C world. Many of those jobs are still more about who you know than what you know.
I did my Master's work at Appalachian State and I know their exercise science master's program has a track with a S&C focus. They also have good GA opportunities with the S&C staff, state-of-the-art stregth, speed, and body composition testing, and seem to have a decent track record of getting people connected for jobs after graduation.
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