New DHEA topical, testers wanted

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  1. New DHEA topical, testers wanted


    Quick design - might or might not work along with HUNG as an add-on. Carrier might be too harsh.

    Summary: New studies show significant conversion enzymes DHEA---> Test (simplified) in the skin and muscle. DHEA "transdermals" work by bypassing first pass metabolism in the liver, but still rely on full body conversion, which is good and bad.

    I'm testing a new design, topical instead of transdermal. This is a two-phase design combined into a single product.

    The first phase uses a cyclodextrin-complexed DHEA that speed through into the muscle below where it undergoes conversion. The Second phase uses a Chitosan-coated Liposomal DHEA, which has been shown to penetrate deep into all layers of the skin and halt there, again to undergo conversion.

    They are both combined into the original localized topical - which doesn't necessarily mix up very thick, but is insanely effective.

    Looking for 4 testers that are VERY painstaking in their body awareness. Since the conversion is happening mostly locally, in the muscle, shutdown shouldn't be a huge issue.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
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  2. If I am currently running top muscle this can’t be used as well?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by dcoen21 View Post
    If I am currently running top muscle this can’t be used as well?
    Yeah, absolutely.

    HUNG update - ok, the things I do for you people.....The carrier BURNS/STINGS for about 30 seconds, but it's not bad. So it CAN be used.

    Looking for feedback on muscle (obviously), strength, and libido
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless

  4. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Yeah, absolutely.

    HUNG update - ok, the things I do for you people.....The carrier BURNS/STINGS for about 30 seconds, but it's not bad. So it CAN be used.

    Looking for feedback on muscle (obviously), strength, and libido
    If u need any testers I would like to give this a go!

  5. I'd be down to try this out! How do we apply?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by 350zTT View Post
    I'd be down to try this out! How do we apply?
    Apply here.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless

  7. I'd be all over this, but I just stopped a current log due to my afib coming back. Always at the forefront of this industry dude!! True pioneer. I'll be sitting back, watching this closely.
    SEMPER FI!!

  8. Bloodwork is required to prove effectiveness. Anyone planning on having before and after DHEA-S bloodwork?
    May I suggest using this app to track your bloodwork tests:
    myBloodTracker for IPhone and IPad
    https://appsto.re/us/vvMndb.i

  9. @dsade id be willing to log it... I just recently started using dhea and pregnenolone to supplement trt and feel great.

    I am very aware of how things affect me and usually can increase or decrease a dose based on sensitivity to how its working to find my "sweet spot". After years and years of listening to my body (diet, training, supplements etc) I know when something is working and when it isn't.


    And as for the Hung... Recently divorced and now single... Nuff said
    Anima Vestra
    Anima Vestra

    Latin

  10. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    Bloodwork is required to prove effectiveness. Anyone planning on having before and after DHEA-S bloodwork?
    The point of the product is not to increase systemic DHEA levels.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless

  11. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    The point of the product is not to increase systemic DHEA levels.
    Ok so what exactly does it do and where do you put it? Lol I think I know what youre going to say....
    Anima Vestra
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    Latin

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Godstrength View Post
    Ok so what exactly does it do and where do you put it? Lol I think I know what youre going to say....
    It's designed to take advantage of significant skin and muscle enzymes in order to directly convert the DHEA into more potent androgens inside of the target tissues, rather than a systemic absorption aiming to increase full body conversion and MAYBE get a tiny portion to make it to the tissues (whether muscle or penile tissues.)
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless

  13. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    It's designed to take advantage of significant skin and muscle enzymes in order to directly convert the DHEA into more potent androgens inside of the target tissues, rather than a systemic absorption aiming to increase full body conversion and MAYBE get a tiny portion to make it to the tissues (whether muscle or penile tissues.)
    Ok if you still need testers ill run it
    Anima Vestra
    Anima Vestra

    Latin

  14. I would definitely be interested in logging. I can drop any other supps as needed.

  15. I am still confused on what it does, is this similar to hung? I want to run either... trying to secure a couple of betas of Hung did you have any samples yet or in the next few days or so?

  16. interested, but i guess im out since im from germany :P
    always loved transdermal dhea (dermacrine for example).. huge boost in self esteem, some improved body comp etc

  17. I have used many TD DHEA's over the years and always liked them. I look forward to this becoming available in the future.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by BCseacow83 View Post
    I have used many TD DHEA's over the years and always liked them. I look forward to this becoming available in the future.
    Can you share which ones you used? Bloodwork?
    May I suggest using this app to track your bloodwork tests:
    myBloodTracker for IPhone and IPad
    https://appsto.re/us/vvMndb.i

  19. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    Can you share which ones you used? Bloodwork?
    I have natural test levels of sub 100ng/dl, for total test, with my lowest test ever showing a 7. I was on TRT but lost insurance and went, and continue to do so, without any exogenous test. Over that time period I used what I could get and the DHEA topicals were a big part of that. I used Dermacrine, Sup3r-DHEA, Life-Flo, Alpha Gainz, and my homemade.

    I never did labs do to cost and I was more concerened with quality of life and simply trying to get through the day. If I could have afforded labs I could have afforded TRT. Now that I am done with school and in a better financial place we are trying to have a baby so no TRT for the moments either.

    Labs are important for others to verify one's results, I get that. In my practice I use labs for patient care planning but at the end of the day you need to treat the pt and not simply the numbers. The TD DHEA's made me feel better and helped my survive without TRT so really I could care less what the numbers said. When you have the test levels of a 1 year old girl you can tell when something works and does not.

  20. Duplicate post.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Quick design - might or might not work along with HUNG as an add-on. Carrier might be too harsh.

    Summary: New studies show significant conversion enzymes DHEA---> Test (simplified) in the skin and muscle. DHEA "transdermals" work by bypassing first pass metabolism in the liver, but still rely on full body conversion, which is good and bad.

    I'm testing a new design, topical instead of transdermal. This is a two-phase design combined into a single product.

    The first phase uses a cyclodextrin-complexed DHEA that speed through into the muscle below where it undergoes conversion. The Second phase uses a Chitosan-coated Liposomal DHEA, which has been shown to penetrate deep into all layers of the skin and halt there, again to undergo conversion.

    They are both combined into the original localized topical - which doesn't necessarily mix up very thick, but is insanely effective.

    Looking for 4 testers that are VERY painstaking in their body awareness. Since the conversion is happening mostly locally, in the muscle, shutdown shouldn't be a huge issue.
    Be happy to test this. Done a couple reviews for products previously on here aswell.

    I know my body very well and how my weight fluctuates and what changes are happening. I do tape measurements every couple month or so and keep a log. Got a very good nailed in diet also and training is never an issue

    Currently in a surplus of calories so a perfect test

    Happy to cover shipping cost also.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by bell1986 View Post
    Be happy to test this. Done a couple reviews for products previously on here aswell.

    I know my body very well and how my weight fluctuates and what changes are happening. I do tape measurements every couple month or so and keep a log. Got a very good nailed in diet also and training is never an issue

    Currently in a surplus of calories so a perfect test

    Happy to cover shipping cost also.
    If he replies to you I will be very annoyed haha

  23. What happened with this?

    Dsade message'd me and asked about testing this.. Sent details and had no response in over a month?

    Still be up for it if he is still planning on sending out testers

  24. Quote Originally Posted by bell1986 View Post
    What happened with this?

    Dsade message'd me and asked about testing this.. Sent details and had no response in over a month?

    Still be up for it if he is still planning on sending out testers
    Thats become pretty commonplace. Ghosts for months at a time

  25. Quote Originally Posted by ironkill View Post
    Thats become pretty commonplace. Ghosts for months at a time
    I imagine him on some secret hidden away island running through the jungle avoiding spears from the locals holding some rare plant/herbs, this is what he is doing for us! Lol
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