KetoForce- Patrick Arnold does it again.....and how!!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    KetoForce is back in stock
    Thanks !


  2. Quote Originally Posted by dollar662 View Post
    Thanks !
    You are welcome
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  3. Sorry if I missed it, but is there a way to estimate the calorie content of a dose of Ketoforce?

    I avoid carb-based pre-workouts...while they feel great at first, they mess with my appetite and make me ravenous afterwards. Thus I like training fasted and/or ketogenic instead. That gives me high hopes for the ketoforce...but I still want to make sure I compensate by modulating calories appropriately with the extra intake, and don't over or under compensate if my appetite goes wonky (as it does on a regular basis).

  4. Quote Originally Posted by foobar16 View Post
    Sorry if I missed it, but is there a way to estimate the calorie content of a dose of Ketoforce?

    I avoid carb-based pre-workouts...while they feel great at first, they mess with my appetite and make me ravenous afterwards. Thus I like training fasted and/or ketogenic instead. That gives me high hopes for the ketoforce...but I still want to make sure I compensate by modulating calories appropriately with the extra intake, and don't over or under compensate if my appetite goes wonky (as it does on a regular basis).
    One serving (30mL) contains approximately 12 grams of BHB. Each gram of BHB has about 5 calories so you are looking at 60 calories

    I like to use powdered essential amino acids (15g or so) along with ketoforce in my workout drink. It provides ample energy while providing no carbs. I also dont feel hungry after my workout as much
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  5. Awesome Patrick. Thanks for being so forthcoming. Knowing the actual dose just removed all my hesitation to go experiment.

    60kcal isn't all that much in the first place, but now it's not a big scary unknown .

    And knowing for sure it's 12g of BHB gives me some starting place if I do decide test BHB levels.

    I just got 4 bottles in the mail yesterday. And now I've got far less hesitation about pounding them. Here I go .
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  6. I know a few of you use both ECOP and KetoForce.

    Any reason I shouldn't mix ECOP and KetoForce in the same beverage, or leave some time between ingesting the two?

  7. Can ketoforce be taken intraworkout mixed with 10 oz of water and powdered EAA's?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by foobar16 View Post
    I know a few of you use both ECOP and KetoForce.

    Any reason I shouldn't mix ECOP and KetoForce in the same beverage, or leave some time between ingesting the two?
    I dont see any reason as to why you cant combine the two. Just beware you may have to use the bathroom after ingestion, everyone is different though.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame84 View Post
    Can ketoforce be taken intraworkout mixed with 10 oz of water and powdered EAA's?
    I dont see why not but IMO ketoforce is best used pre workout.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by foobar16 View Post
    I know a few of you use both ECOP and KetoForce.

    Any reason I shouldn't mix ECOP and KetoForce in the same beverage, or leave some time between ingesting the two?
    i dont see it mattering either way, except that it may affect the fizz. try it
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by BigGame84 View Post
    Can ketoforce be taken intraworkout mixed with 10 oz of water and powdered EAA's?
    thats pretty much how i use it
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    thats pretty much how i use it
    It does affect the fizz, that's how I take it on leg days
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    thats pretty much how i use it
    I was worried about the taste of Ketoforce throwing off my Amino IV drink. I'll have to try it now since I haven't tried my Ketoforce yet. Thanks.

  13. Anyone still using KetoForce? Still "shotting" it before training? Any new uses/doses?

  14. This seems like a fantastic product. what are the risks while running this product ? Is liver stress and issue due to the temporary elevation in keytones everyday?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by flamini View Post
    This seems like a fantastic product. what are the risks while running this product ? Is liver stress and issue due to the temporary elevation in keytones everyday?
    no there is no liver nor kidney stress. Your body loves ketones. People always try to pull ketoacidosis into the keto diet conversation. That is an issue caused by diabetes and not keto dieting.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by flamini View Post
    This seems like a fantastic product. what are the risks while running this product ? Is liver stress and issue due to the temporary elevation in keytones everyday?


    ketones dont hurt the liver
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  17. When will ketoforce be back in stock?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by japakron View Post
    When will ketoforce be back in stock?
    your looking at a couple of weeks probably
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    your looking at a couple of weeks probably
    Thanks any insure on why this does when consumes with mct oil/ coconut oil? I've heard a little bit about it from dr d but not a lot.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by japakron View Post
    Thanks any insure on why this does when consumes with mct oil/ coconut oil? I've heard a little bit about it from dr d but not a lot.
    That's supposed to say " insight on what effect this has when..."

  21. Quote Originally Posted by japakron View Post
    Thanks any insure on why this does when consumes with mct oil/ coconut oil? I've heard a little bit about it from dr d but not a lot.

    I have a graph but anabolic minds attachments arent working

    basically u can acheive greater bhb levels with the combo
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    I have a graph but anabolic minds attachments arent working

    basically u can acheive greater bhb levels with the combo
    thats cause you can only upload pie graphs

  23. Low carber here. Will try this for sure.

    The Salt/Sodium content is rather high though for some quick supp I plan to slam! LOL
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Low carber here. Will try this for sure.

    The Salt/Sodium content is rather high though for some quick supp I plan to slam! LOL

    potassium tends to balance out the negatives from sodium
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  25. i can help you out! to spread the word! i m from mexico and i have 3 years being in ketosis, and now i m using ketoforce!

  26. Quote Originally Posted by guerreros View Post
    i can help you out! to spread the word! i m from mexico and i have 3 years being in ketosis, and now i m using ketoforce!
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  27. Quick Question: I have a fridge *packed* with ketoforce (think it was an $800 order...long story) from Jan 2014. Any chance it's still usable?
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