11-Sterone (11-Oxo) vs. 7 Spray
- 01-19-2011, 12:58 PM
11-Sterone (11-Oxo) vs. 7 Spray
hey PA, or Epharm/Prototype rep, which of the two products mentioned in the title would you recommend for a 6-8 week recomp/cut cycle? Both seem to be able to get the job done, with the 7 Spray possibly being the cheaper of the two, depending on how many bottles I would have to buy. I plan on using both in the future regardless, but which one would be more effective?
Also, could you give a recommended dose or amount for the one you recommend? The dosage on the 7 spray bottle is ambiguous at best, and I've seen 11-oxo dosage recommendations range from 300 to 600 for 6 to 8 weeks, some with a PCT and I believe PA you said even a 600mg cycle of 8 weeks wouldn't require a PCT? Just looking for some opinions here.
- 01-19-2011, 01:33 PM
Prototype Nutrition has an offer on at the moment on the 7/11 stack, where you get a bottle of 11-spray (11-ketotestosterone, stronger than 11-sterone) and a bottle of 7-spray (7-keto DHEA & b-AET) for $100, saving $30, if that helps at all.
7-spray lasts ~ 30 days at ~55 sprays a day (basically a thin coat over your whole body).
I'd feel comfortable using TestForce Two as PCT for 11-oxo or 11-spray.Antæus Labs
- 01-19-2011, 01:45 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I did see that deal the other day. That's a great deal. Now, what dose do you recommend for the 11-spray? Would that last about 4 weeks at an effective dose as well? I see on the site it says to run the 11-spray THEN the 7-spray. This would come to an 8 week cycle, then hit a mild PCT after right?
01-19-2011, 01:51 PM
01-19-2011, 02:16 PM
The 7-spray isn't androgenic, so run the 11-spray, then run the 7-spray at the same time as whatever you want to use for PCT. Or run the 7-spray, then the 11-spray, then PCT. Basically run a mild PCT after 11-spray, and run the 7-spray whenever you want.
01-19-2011, 02:18 PM
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01-20-2011, 10:56 AM
01-20-2011, 11:13 AM
03-03-2011, 09:32 PM
Which one is better for fat loss, 7 or 11???? I'm a little confused, planning on a cut soon with OSTA, wanting to try my first transdermal
03-04-2011, 05:01 AM
03-04-2011, 07:36 AM
03-04-2011, 10:26 AM
03-04-2011, 06:23 PM
Ok so 11-oxo is an androgen, but which one is better for fat loss and why? One being better than the other at what, I'm reading between the lines but I'm not seeing my answer so I am confused. I am trying to compare and contrast here
03-04-2011, 09:26 PM
03-05-2011, 10:41 AM
Well if the 11 spray is mild, would recommend something like daa with it to keep test levels up?
03-05-2011, 10:50 AM
Also I have a female, is stuff ok if it gets on her? Or would it be safer to go with the 7 spray then?
03-11-2011, 09:47 AM
03-11-2011, 11:56 AM
There's a big Q&A on 11-spray at PHF where a lot of common questions are answered [link].
03-12-2011, 12:14 PM
Thanks for link and answering the questions
03-15-2011, 10:11 AM
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