Whats the deal? Is E-PHARM and ERGOPHARM the same company? I was on Nutraplanet ordering more testforce and I see E-pharm separate from Ergopharm.

No, they aren't.
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This may be a specific question for PA, but maybe one of his reps will know the answer. There is a website that has some GF Pro for sale that went out of date in May. Does anyone know if it would still be good?
you are pushing it if the gf pro was dated for may, some say a few months, but for me, if it's outdated its already degraded (for the most part)
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If it's sealed, I usually hear 3 to 6 months. Never get the same answer though.
What about products like 6 OXO and the original 1-AD? I see them both for sale on ebay from time to time? The 1-AD had to go out of date three years ago.
1 ad was awesome
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Cool - thanks for the info guys. The 1 AD was very tempting even at $100.
Stay away, it's potent but theres still good products out there that work just as well. If you could still get some topical 1t-tren from primordial, that would be a good one. They have different actives in them, but results are similar IMO. Again, not related products though
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I wont buy any outdated protein....it is a food product.
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Pat will we ever see a 1ad product ever again?
Will we see anything like 1-AD ever again? (from you, of course)
I've seen everywhere online that Ergopharm GF-Pro is/was one of the best Whey Proteins out there...
For some reason I'm not able to find it anywhere... The Ergopharm website doesnt exist anymore.
I've found an ErgoGenix and E-Pharm but none of them have any Whey Protein products.
Is GF-Pro dead? is it there any equivalent for it?
GF pro was discontinued about 4 years ago or so. Ergopharm no longer exists but its founders now have Epharm.
Ergogenix has nothing to do with the founders of Epharm. It is run by a canadian guy that doesnt lift weights
unfortunately it is just too expensive to make a good whey protein these days, especially if your'e volume of sales is not huge