how about triazole stacked with dermacrine?
Never did do it. I actually quit using "supplements". Realized I had wasted years and thousands on bogus hype. Basically just eat a very strict interpretation of the Paleo diet and use very minimal supplementary products. For me now supps are Royal jelly, Manuka Honey, wild gathered mushrooms, spices (especially turmeric), cacao and Maca powder. I am planning on using some of Green Pasture's fermented cod liver oil and also their X-factor butter oil. I feel every dollar spent on a "supplement" could have bought me a can of sardines or been saved to buy one of the listed products.
I am every bit as strong, ripped and healthy using this protocol as I ever was using the trash peddled here. For every 20 products here 1 might be worth the money IMHO.
That's funny, because im finding the same thing, im going back to basics - I must have spent £400 last year on supps I could get for £40 and most not needed at all (or mad eme feel worse).
Creatine mono, protein, pre workout - that's it. Anything after this and youre on the dark side where bang equals bunk, not "hmm, I think it worked" junk being peddled.