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Old 01-12-2008, 11:12 AM   #1
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Lean Xtreme - Relora Version?

In my opinion, the ingredient profile of Lean Xtreme makes it one of the best cortisol management products around. Yet, would Lean Xtreme not come closer to perfection, if Relora were added to the current blend?
 



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Old 01-12-2008, 11:34 AM   #2
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NOW Relora is cheap on its own.
 
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Old 01-12-2008, 11:57 AM   #3
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What are the synergistic effects of relora and lean xtreme if you dont mind explaining strategic?
 



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What are the synergistic effects of relora and lean xtreme if you dont mind explaining strategic?
I was actually thinking of ordering some relora after last year`s stressful classes.

The synergy is basically that Lean Extreme uses 7-OH to control cortisol, and relora is a herbal extract so you would be hitting the cortisol from two angles to really keep it down and maximize the benefits.

Relora (Magnolia extract) is a very interesting compound being non-sedating, DHEA increasing and cortisol decreasing substance. It is great for people with stress or anxiety that leads to high cortisol, or could be used together with something like Lean Xtreme for max cortisol control.
 



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Old 01-12-2008, 01:41 PM   #5
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NOW Relora is cheap on its own.
This means it should not be bad economics to include it in the blend
 



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Old 01-12-2008, 01:43 PM   #6
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What are the synergistic effects of relora and lean xtreme if you dont mind explaining strategic?
Basically optimization of cortisol management. Like Steveoph explained.
 



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Old 01-12-2008, 01:50 PM   #7
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I like relora. With it, you'd be controlling cortisol via 3 angles.

With 7-OH you get competitive inhibition of cortisol synthesis via 11BetaHSD1.

5-AT appears to be a strong inhibitor of glucocorticoids. 5-AT also has the positive benefits of increased immune response.

Relora would work well too in combination. It is something that can be used far more often though, and doesn't necessarily need to be cycled as much as a stronger cortisol product (like LX) has to be, which is probably one of the reasons it was excluded. Not sure though.
 



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Never used Relora.... would an effective dose take up too much capsule space?
 



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Old 01-12-2008, 05:36 PM   #9
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Never used Relora.... would an effective dose take up too much capsule space?
600mg to 900mg daily.
 



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Or you can take Relora by itself for post cycle cortisol control or just general cortisol control, etc. I think Relora by itself would be much better than a steroidal cortisol modulator like 7-OH-DHEA.
 



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Relora is one my new favorite staples. Been using it for about 2 weeks now and it has done wonders for anxiety/body recomp. Just sayin..
 
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Relora is one my new favorite staples. Been using it for about 2 weeks now and it has done wonders for anxiety/body recomp. Just sayin..
It's good stuff. Just don't come off of it all at once. I was a dope and stopped taking it at once when $#!+ hit the fan and it wasn't pretty. I'm not saying that there's a withdrawal effect if you forget a day or anything of that matter... I was taking 1500mg per day (500mg 3x/day) and just stopped.
 



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which relora brand has been tried with good results?


FOG, did you notice weight gain from the abrupt stop? or you talking psychological? eitherway interesting.
 
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FOG, did you notice weight gain from the abrupt stop? or you talking psychological? eitherway interesting.
Hey Comacho. There are a few outside variables (there always are), however, it all started with an Asian woman from a club...
Went to a club + beautiful Asian woman + long night at her place + slept the next day very late + had a falling out with a friend later that night... found myself at living with everything bagged in a hotel... missed 2 days of Relora and all of my stress defenses were pretty much diminished.

The situation was bad enough... HOWEVER... the Relora had been keeping my appetite at bay and it came back with a vengeance. Relora had also been keeping my already 'pi$$ poor' situational anxiety at bay. After suddenly stopping, I found myself having some pretty bad shakes that I haven't had before and chronic insomnia for days...

After 12 days of this and much more exponential stress components feeding off each other and me being basically incapacitated, I signed a deal with the Devil which would begin day 1 of a 50 day methamphetamine trial.
 



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