[SubliminalX]

I got a nice boost in Test/Free Test while on the NHA stack. But I'd like to get an idea of how much of that is attributable to 6-alpha-bromotest conversion from its precursor found in RR -- assuming 6-alpha-bromotest reacts on a standard serum Test assay. There are a mix of alpha and beta isomers in RR.

Inquiring minds wanna know!

[Robboe]

This isn't information we'll be giving out, sorry. We spent a lot of time researching for Reloaded, so its not something we're gonna hand away for a knock-off company to easily release.

[FitModel]

RR is discontinued? why?

[FrankJ]

Originally Posted by FitModel

RR is discontinued? why?

Im guessing one of two possible reasons...

1.) They have something better coming out.

2.) They want to disassociate themselves from the anti-e market, especially since 6-bromo is banned in NCAA and Olympic competition.

[SubliminalX]

Originally Posted by FrankJ

Im guessing one of two possible reasons...

1.) They have something better coming out.

2.) They want to disassociate themselves from the anti-e market, especially since 6-bromo is banned in NCAA and Olympic competition.

I hope Activate Extreme is indeed better. I'll be getting blood work and posting the results for all to see.

[FitModel]

Originally Posted by FrankJ

2.) They want to disassociate themselves from the anti-e market, especially since 6-bromo is banned in NCAA and Olympic competition.

lol, so is muslce milk...ha

[Aoba]

Also 6-bromo is synthetic. Keep this in mine with regards to DSHEA compliance that most companies want to follow, especially with FDA regulation growing in the next few years.

[FrankJ]

Originally Posted by FitModel

lol, so is muslce milk...ha

Supposedly muscle milk was spiked with Andro which earned it the ban.

[FitModel]

Originally Posted by FrankJ

Supposedly muscle milk was spiked with Andro which earned it the ban.

that's not what I heard...and I find that hard to believe

[SubliminalX]

Is it possible that Muscle Milk was banned based on creatine content?

[FitModel]

let me see if I can find the thread that talked about it, I remember there were like 10 differnt assumptions, but only one turned out to be the real reason, and I belive it had something to do with raising IGF...

[FitModel]

"Wow the misinformation in this thread is strong.

First of all the coach is correct according to what the NCAA says. MM was not banned because of any protein/carb ratio (they cannot even test for that) it was banned because MM contains IGF-1 precursors, and while the amount is so negligible they could never detect it in a test, it was banned because it was technically "hormonal." The only way you could get banned for MM was if they found it in your locker or something which would never happen.

But cytosport realized most college athletes taking their supplement (and probably not even whey because they think that MM is the end all be all supplement) would believe the NCAA and are to uneducated on the subject to realize the situation. So to not lose sales, BOOM MM Collegiate, with no IFG-1 precursors. "



different post - -

"I heard Muscle Milk is banned, is that that true?
Well the answer to that is, technically yes. Muscle Milk was banned by the NCAA because it contains IGF-1 (insulin growth hormone 1) precursors. if you read the container it says it has "Growth Hormone releasers." Well anyone who knows anything will tell you that any increase, if at all, of IGF-1 you get from Muscle Milk is so negligible that it will never show up in a test. So unless you get caught carrying a container by NCAA testing officials continue to take it you will be fine. But, since technically it is "hormonal" it has to be banned according to NCAA regulations. Also you must note that the NCAA has deals with Gatorade and other companies that supply protein drinks and there is money to be made by them banning MM. Recently Cytosport and the NCAA entered into an agreement that allows Muscle Milk Collegiate. Now if you were Cytosport, and a majority of your MM customers were high school and college athletes, and the NCAA banned your product, would you not come out with a compliant product, different or not? Of course."

[Robboe]

Originally Posted by FrankJ

Im guessing one of two possible reasons...

1.) They have something better coming out.

2.) They want to disassociate themselves from the anti-e market, especially since 6-bromo is banned in NCAA and Olympic competition.

Fundamentally its #1.

[bigpetefox]

ActivaTe Xtreme is a solid product on its own, I think of it as being the NHA stack in one bottle..

Sooner or later, we'll remember how it was when AI's weren't the end-all of test boosting..