NHA Stack Killing my Libido

Redeemer · 02-21-2007, 06:42 AM

I'm going into my 4th week of NHA stack using Reloaded, Lean XT, and Activate. Dosing is 4, 5, and 6 each daily respectively.

Total and free test are very likely up as my shoulders turned into a pizza and all of my muscles are looking fuller and more cut. The problem is that my sex drive just isn't there; at all. I was taking DCP with the stack but laid off because TTA kills sex drive for me and I wanted to see if that was the culprit. I guess not.

I still think RR is an awesome product but I had more sex drive on the original. Any thoughts?

anabolicrhino · 02-21-2007, 06:56 AM

ATD type products always kill my drive, I can only stay on it for about a week to 10 days. 7-OXO usually makes me tired but I struggle through for about 4 weeks. Activate generally perks me up real good. Maybe the stack is like 2 against 1...This is part of the whole post cycle therapy deal(the worst part) if it gets too be a drag then I would stop the Reloaded first then the Lean extreme and stay on the Activate. Good luck!

bigstabile · 02-21-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer

I'm going into my 4th week of NHA stack using Reloaded, Lean XT, and Activate. Dosing is 4, 5, and 6 each daily respectively.

Total and free test are very likely up as my shoulders turned into a pizza and all of my muscles are looking fuller and more cut. The problem is that my sex drive just isn't there; at all. I was taking DCP with the stack but laid off because TTA kills sex drive for me and I wanted to see if that was the culprit. I guess not.

I still think RR is an awesome product but I had more sex drive on the original. Any thoughts?

Holy Moses! Why are you dosing so high?

bulls**t · 02-21-2007, 11:15 AM

Lower your reloaded dose.

**jmh80** · 02-21-2007, 12:29 PM

Yeah - too high of an RR dose.

Also - TTA can kill libido, but Seasathin/min were worse for me. I think it takes some time for TTA work move out of your system.

bludevil · 02-21-2007, 12:39 PM

NHA killed my libido as well and I was only dosing 2 RR's a day. I've been off a week now, and libido is back to norm. Did gain some nice strength while on the stack though.

donk · 02-22-2007, 12:47 AM

I am suprised your joints don't hurt like hell with that stack. After a month of RR at 3/day I always have to drop to 2/day or I my joints hurt bad.

Werewolf · 02-22-2007, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bludevil

NHA killed my libido as well and I was only dosing 2 RR's a day. I've been off a week now, and libido is back to norm. Did gain some nice strength while on the stack though.

When you have been off for a while I highly recommend you get your natural testosterone levels checked. I'm afraid it is low. 2 RR shouldn't kill your estrogen that low to kill your libido.

Werewolf · 02-22-2007, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by donk

I am suprised your joints don't hurt like hell with that stack. After a month of RR at 3/day I always have to drop to 2/day or I my joints hurt bad.

This is part of the reason I run 50 mgs of ATD and 1 RR. It keeps my estrogen higher, but gets the testosterone high. If I went to 75 mgs of ATD (no RR) then libido problems will start to show up. ATD is working both sides of the HPTA axis so you get more testosterone boost with less estrogen suppression. 3 RRs has your estrogen very low. 4 RRs is freaking crazy.

TripDog · 02-22-2007, 02:16 AM

I love activate......acne is a issue there tho!!!....Atd imo is better than reloaded...with activate my strength was noticably increased,so were the androgenic sides that come with test tho!!!!!Either way i love the stuff!

Redeemer · 02-22-2007, 07:01 AM

Thanks for the replies Gents. I just want to follow up, the reason I dosed so high is that in the past I didn't see results (original rebound) at less than 6 daily. The positive part of this stack is that I'm actually getting gains that are comparable to a 4AD 1 Test combo with minimal effort. Also, there is no joint pain to speak of. I am lowering the RR dose anyways because I need to be able to perform my marital duties.
Also I should note that I'm keeping up with the regular goodies of fish and flax oil 6 grams daily each as well as multi vitamin and mineral supps. Other than that along with food and protein shakes, I'm not running anything else.
I'm also not in PCT either, this is a stand alone stack. I'm 6' 2''
237 lbs. I haven't been taped but I'm sure my BF% is over 25 as I slacked off on the exercise and drank all summer and fall.

This stack however has given me the motivation to hit it hard again as the gains ae so easy. Now I need to get my diet in check.

bludevil · 02-22-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Werewolf

When you have been off for a while I highly recommend you get your natural testosterone levels checked. I'm afraid it is low. 2 RR shouldn't kill your estrogen that low to kill your libido.

Thanks for the heads up, I'll do that shortly as my yearly check-up is approaching. The only question I have though is, while not taking RR, my libido is pretty high, meaning I want it (or will take it) at any point in time. While I had no performance issues while I'll on RR, my desire or sexual aggresiveness was severly lacking.

Werewolf · 02-22-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bludevil

Thanks for the heads up, I'll do that shortly as my yearly check-up is approaching. The only question I have though is, while not taking RR, my libido is pretty high, meaning I want it (or will take it) at any point in time. While I had no performance issues while I'll on RR, my desire or sexual aggresiveness was severly lacking.

It could also be that your conversion from testosterone to estrogen is lower than normal, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

**yeahright** · 02-22-2007, 05:42 PM

Lower your dosages.

moflika · 03-17-2007, 05:58 AM

Sorry for bringing this old thread back, but I've been dosing 3 RR and my libido is gone. Yeah, I know I should lower it and I will, but what I was wondering is it will come back when I'm done right? If so, then I don't really care, since I'm not really getting any action. It just feels weird to have no libido. I'm at the end of week six and I was planning to move it down to 2 (then just 1 RR for the last week) anyway.

I just need some reassurance that it will come back.

Redeemer · 03-17-2007, 07:48 AM

Dude no worries here. I brought my RR dose down to 2 daily and it came back in a week. I'm now finished and it's back bigtime. Also, I've added DCP and MP to cut a little and TTA always makes me fatigued and depressed with little sex drive. That has not happened in this case and I attribute it to continued use of Activate. I also want to add that the gains I made from the high dose NHA stack were comparable to a 4AD transdermal. The only thing missing was the great 4AD feeling.

**yeahright** · 03-17-2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by moflika

Sorry for bringing this old thread back, but I've been dosing 3 RR and my libido is gone. Yeah, I know I should lower it and I will, but what I was wondering is it will come back when I'm done right? If so, then I don't really care, since I'm not really getting any action. It just feels weird to have no libido. I'm at the end of week six and I was planning to move it down to 2 (then just 1 RR for the last week) anyway.

I just need some reassurance that it will come back.

It should come back fine. Libido is a complex interplay of hormones, environment and body stress/nutrition. If you drastically tinker with any of those, it can mess-up the balances you're used to. Everything should revert back once you stop tinkering with your hormones.

moflika · 03-17-2007, 11:30 PM

Awesome, now I can stop worrying! Thanks.