The Melting Point experience

vasu · 08-23-2005, 08:55 PM

hey j_neatherlin, too bad you're not moving to new orleans, but back on topic...

you should consider taking 2x2x2x2, there was a thread about people noticing better results when doing more doses, rather than larger doses; i know it worked better for me that way.

j_neatherlin · 08-23-2005, 09:18 PM

thanks for the tip vasu. i will move to the more frequent dosing tomorrow.

j_neatherlin · 08-24-2005, 05:16 PM

1st dose: 2 caps @ 8:30 AM

2nd dose: 2 caps @ 11:15 AM

3rd dose: 2 caps @ 4:00 PM

4th dose: Will take 2 caps around 11:00 PM

Cardio
20 min HIIT @ stairstepper, 40 sec intervals, level 5/level 11

Did some abs and finished with

20 min walk treadmill @ 5.5% incline

Comments
Nothing special yet. No lethargy or cramping. Didn't really notice an increase in body temp but worked up a heavier than usual sweat while doing HIIT on the stairstepper. I also sweat like a pig while out today, but again, it's so hot here, I can't really attribute it to the MP.

mrfantastic5 · 08-24-2005, 06:41 PM

why dont u just to a clen/t3 cycle

not being a **** or anything, but i'm sure uve delved into this stuff to get urself ready for pre contest

j_neatherlin · 08-24-2005, 07:58 PM

b/c I want to give this product a go to see what it's all about. it's more about the means rather than the end.

mrfantastic5 · 08-24-2005, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j_neatherlin

b/c I want to give this product a go to see what it's all about. it's more about the means rather than the end.

eh, if i had the build u have i'd just go with the quick fix

i applaud ur noble cause

Beast · 08-25-2005, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j_neatherlin

b/c I want to give this product a go to see what it's all about. it's more about the means rather than the end.

Keep the lipolysis kickin J!

j_neatherlin · 08-25-2005, 05:34 PM

I'm tryin, D

1st dose: 2 caps @ 8:45 AM

2nd dose: 2 caps @ 12:00 PM

3rd dose: 2 caps @ approx. 5:00 PM

4th dose: 2 caps @ approx. 11:00 PM

Legs
5 min warm up treadmill @ 3% incline

IBUR 15 min 1% incline, 4.5 mph/7.5 mph

Squat 315x5, x5, x5
High leg press 315 (each side) x5, x8, x10
Calf press 360 (each side) x12, x12
SLDL 225x6, x6

Total lifting time: 30 min

Comments
I haven't yet been affected by lethargy or cramping, so I'm very happy about that. Cardio endurance/performance doesn't seem to be impaired, and neither does strength.

Last night, I started to feel increased body temperature. I noticed that the skin around my abdomen, obliques, and low back was very warm. The skin on the rest of my body was a bit warmer than normal, but not as warm as the other areas (which were dramatically warmer than usual).

A possible side effect that I experienced last night would be the increase in appetite. I had an unscheduled cheat meal, last night...didn't go too crazy, but it was a cheat none the less.

**massmonster** · 08-25-2005, 05:41 PM

Sorry, but whats IBUR?

j_neatherlin · 08-25-2005, 05:51 PM

there's a link in the first post of the thread

**massmonster** · 08-25-2005, 05:57 PM

thanks, I over looked that. Looks like a good program. I'm definatly going to alternate IBUR with my HIIT program.

j_neatherlin · 08-26-2005, 05:38 PM

I like IBUR...it's nice, b/c it's easy to manipulate a variable (speed/incline) if done on a treadmill. I've been using that program on and off for about 1.5 years now.

1st dose: 2 caps @ 8:30 AM

2nd dose: 2 caps @ 12:15 PM

3rd dose: 2 caps @ approx. 5:00 PM

4th dose: 2 caps @ approx. 11:00 PM

Delts/Traps
15 min recumbent bike

Standing BB OHP 185x5, x3, x3
Lateral raise 45x8, x8
Rear delt flye 45x8, x8
Upright row 135x8, x8, x6
BB shrug 405x5, x5

20 min stairstepper @ level 7

Total lifting time: 30 min

Comments
Still no sides...which I'm very happy about. The increased skin temp on the abdomen wasn't as noticeable today. Appetite was fine last night...started craving some peanut butter around noon, but didn't eat any. Other than that cheat meal the other night, I've been doing really well as far as sticking to my diet is concerned.

Checked my bodyweight this morning, just to see...down to 186 (-3 pounds). Considering that most MP users are experiencing water retention, there's a fair chance that the 3 pound loss is all fat. okay, not really. but it's nice to hope

Stuntdawg · 08-26-2005, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j_neatherlin

I like IBUR...it's nice, b/c it's easy to manipulate a variable (speed/incline) if done on a treadmill. I've been using that program on and off for about 1.5 years now.

1st dose: 2 caps @ 8:30 AM

2nd dose: 2 caps @ 12:15 PM

3rd dose: 2 caps @ approx. 5:00 PM

4th dose: 2 caps @ approx. 11:00 PM

Delts/Traps
15 min recumbent bike

Standing BB OHP 185x5, x3, x3
Lateral raise 45x8, x8
Rear delt flye 45x8, x8
Upright row 135x8, x8, x6
BB shrug 405x5, x5

20 min stairstepper @ level 7

Total lifting time: 30 min

Comments
Still no sides...which I'm very happy about. The increased skin temp on the abdomen wasn't as noticeable today. Appetite was fine last night...started craving some peanut butter around noon, but didn't eat any. Other than that cheat meal the other night, I've been doing really well as far as sticking to my diet is concerned.

Checked my bodyweight this morning, just to see...down to 186 (-3 pounds). Considering that most MP users are experiencing water retention, there's a fair chance that the 3 pound loss is all fat. okay, not really. but it's nice to hope

Not to hi-jack your log, but add my personal experience thus far (if you don't mind), I just started my second week with MP. The first week I experienced horrible cramping; so much, that I struggled to get through cardio. Also, I experienced some lethargy as well. Moving into week two, the lethargy has seemed to subside. Actually, my energy is up and I'm ripping through my sets at the gym. Interestingly, I upped my dosage to 6 capsules a day (from 4). The only side I'm experiencing now is a very obvious increase in body temperature. I am pretty much sweating throughout the day, which makes things interesting while in school, but oh well, I'll take that over the lethargy and cramping. It was about 65 degrees here on Tuesday, and it felt more like 85, lol. I usually sleep with a fan blowing on my chest, so that has helped to ensure the elevated body temp doesn't interfere with rest.

Increasing my water in-take may have helped alleviate the cramping in my legs. I had a cardio day yesterday, and that went well, so I hope that continues.
I'll take a bf% and weigh-in and the end of week 2 to see how things are going.

j_neatherlin · 08-27-2005, 04:15 PM

awesome Stuntdawg. Glad to hear that the lethargy and cramping have lessened. I hope I continue to not experience them.

1st dose: 2 caps @ 8:30 AM

2nd dose: 2 caps @ 11:15 AM

3rd dose: 2 caps @ approx. 5:00 PM

4th dose: 2 caps @ approx. 11:00 PM

Arms
15 min recumbent bike

Standing BB curl 115x6, x6
DB spider curl 45x5, x2
DB hammer curl 55x5, x5
CGBP 275x5, x5
EZ bar skullcrushers 35 (each side) x10, x10
Pressdows 100x8, x7

5 min treadmill @ 3% incline

15 min IBUR, 1% incline, 4.5 mph/7.5 mph (went up to 8.0 mph on final interval).

Total lifting time: 25 min

Comments
Everything's going great so far. The increase body temp came back last night, but other than that, not a whole lot going on. I had a bit of a headache this morning, but that could just be some caffeine withdrawls. Feeling fine now.

j_neatherlin · 08-28-2005, 04:25 PM

1st dose: 2 caps @ 8:30 AM

2nd dose: 2 caps @ 11:00 AM

3rd dose: 2 caps @ approx. 5:00 PM

4th dose: 2 caps @ approx. 11:00 PM

Cardio
30 min recumbent bike

3 sets of hanging leg raises

Comments
Had a very minor headache again when I woke up this morning...but it's gone now. Honestly, it's not really an "ache," but more of just a weird feeling that isn't normally there. I am pretty sure that I'm also retaining water at this point. I think I have been for a while, but I just wasn't sure...but I am pretty sure about it now.

j_neatherlin · 08-29-2005, 04:38 PM

1st dose: 2 caps @ 8:30 AM

2nd dose: 2 caps @ 12:00 PM

3rd dose: 2 caps @ approx. 5:00 PM

4th dose: 2 caps @ approx. 11:00 PM

Back
10 min recumbent bike

Conventional DL 275x3, x3, x3, x3
DB row 115x6, x6, x6
SM bentover row 90 (each side) x8, x8
Pullups (BW+50) x5, x4

Total lifting time: 25 min

Comments
Woke up with another headache today...this time a bit more considerable than the previous two. Also had some suboccipital tension/tightness (at the base of the skull)...which may be what caused the headache, or could have been a result of the headache.

Week One Summary
Weighed in today at 185...down 4 pounds from when I started a week ago. The only definite side effect that I've experienced so far is water retention. As I mentioned at the outset of this log, I weaned myself off of MAN Scorch during the first week...and the headaches (a common caffeine withdrawl symptom) started once I came off of the Scorch. So, maybe the headaches are from the MP or maybe not. I can't say for sure yet. Haven't experienced any lethargy, cramping, or decreased endurance/performance in aerobic or anaerobic activity. I have noticed increased body temperature, but honestly, that is not really a side effect.

Twin Peak · 08-29-2005, 10:19 PM

So you are down 4 pounds in a week AND retaining water?

3clipseGT · 08-29-2005, 10:33 PM

Lord have mercy, im def watching this log! Good luck J!