No, it's my lack of sex appeal, piss poor attitude, lack of time, and lack of cash that does that for me........

I hate you guys.


Oh yeah, back on topic, Melting Point is good ****.

Vegas is going to be fun.

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

Vegas is going to be fun.

yes indeed, but given the odds just given to me

"No, it's my lack of sex appeal, piss poor attitude, lack of time, and lack of cash that does that for me........"

the getting Uhockey laid part is going to be a lot more work then I figured. It is Nevada though, we can pull some money together if need be...... meanwhile, back at THE ranch...


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Come on Tim, you are the perfect wing man.

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

Come on Tim, you are the perfect wing man.

I'll do my best to help the cause for sure, challenges are always good. I figure my friend Mike is a top neurosurgeon making mad bank and owns a premier supplement company on the side (sorry sledge, have to run with some stories..you understand). (sounds much sexier than 'changes bed pans of the really old and sick while in debt at med school'). Its all about future earnings right... we'll just have to pad the current resume up a bit, no problem.

go mike, go mike, go mike


Me at the DS booth

Me and TP celebrating Mike's success
Robboe showing his sign of approval as well

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Haha. Boy has this thread gone awry. First off, I've never touched a bedpan, we have nurses for that. Secondly.......where the hell has this make-believe sexual history (lack there-of) come from??

I know there was some dialogue at AL on Sesathin (similar PPAR issues as MP) and women's issues:

http://forum.avantlabs.com/index.php?showtopic=9544

Originally Posted by liftin mama

maybe i'm being silly...BUT i need to know:


MP doesn't have any effect on birth control...does it???

Hmm.....Should I try Melting Point?

Originally Posted by uhockey

Nearly 1/2 sexually active American women carry HSV1+2 while it is estimated that as many as 1/6 carry gonorrhea and/or chlamydia. In addition to that, considering the average person having kids these days.......let's just say I believe there should be an educational requirement or some sort of exam one must pass to breed. As for the brits........we really need to eliminate those teeth genes from the pool....

Tie the tubes at birth, make people pay for an operation to have it reversed. Only the caring, responsible ones will do it. While I don't agree with the idea of "only the rich can have kids", if you can't afford a small sum for the operation, you sure as **** can't afford to properly take care of a child.

I went to University with a bunch of leeches from a 10 kid family. Neither parent intended to work a friggin day. I met one of the kids years later, she laughed at how she was going to "screw the government" because they'd been given OSAP grants and OSAP loans and how it was great she was getting paid under the table.

I happened to see her riding past on a bicycle (now this was in my late 20's) smoking a cigarette. I pointed her out to the girl I was dating because they used to be good friends. After we'd talked for a bit, it came out that she was pregnant.

The father was also on welfare. He would get a job, do nothing to keep it, get fired and then qualified for more welfare again.

And on it goes...

I just started MP at 6 a day 3 x 2 .. 4 days ago .. No cramps yet .. but I have def noticed a temp increase esp at night .. I am a naturally hot person in bed anyway ( that came out wrong oops ) so for me to notice an increase means it was significant .. question I have is will the water retention affect Bf readings as my weight went down a lb in the 4 days ( great ) but my Bf has it appears remained constant .. whereas it was coming down with me weight ..

Cheers

Originally Posted by Wurzel

I just started MP at 6 a day 3 x 2 .. 4 days ago .. No cramps yet .. but I have def noticed a temp increase esp at night .. I am a naturally hot person in bed anyway ( that came out wrong oops ) so for me to notice an increase means it was significant .. question I have is will the water retention affect Bf readings as my weight went down a lb in the 4 days ( great ) but my Bf has it appears remained constant .. whereas it was coming down with me weight ..

Cheers

Depends upon how you check it -- with calipers, yes water retention will skew the results up. With electrical impedance, water retention skews the results down (i.e. you have more LBM, but it's not muscle).

Definitely gets hotter during the day. Something to swap notes about -- I am taking my temp on waking (using a basal therm, my wife used to use this for tracking ovulation, etc. and YES it's a mouth thermometer b4 the jokes start...LOL) My temp is DOWN when I wake up (and by a lot, today was 34.1) but I'm stressed out and overworked.

Do you notice something similar? FYI, I am also running 3 x 2, in my case 3 times a day, 2 caps each time.

I started a second MP cycle 3 days ago after not taking it about 5 weeks. It kicked in immediately this time. Maybe the cummulitive effect is only for the first time. Has anyone else noticed this. It has given me visible effects in the first three days!

visible loss or bloating from H20 retention??

Originally Posted by oldgoat

I started a second MP cycle 3 days ago after not taking it about 5 weeks. It kicked in immediately this time. Maybe the cummulitive effect is only for the first time. Has anyone else noticed this. It has given me visible effects in the first three days!

Bye Bye

I smell a ban coming.

*******.

How did things work out for you Bud?

FWIW, I am just about finished week 8 of a MP/BC cut. I started at 221lbs @ 22% and as of today I am at 210lbs @ 18-19%. The cramps hit me for like a week but the k,mag and taurine took care of that. I have also been taking Activate along with it to spare muscle mass and it seems to be doing the trick. All and all good products, I'll use the MP again but I think I'll do it with an ECA instead.

Peace

jecko

Nice results. I always dig your avatar as well.

Originally Posted by uhockey

Nice results. I always dig your avatar as well.

Thanks Bro, I've always wondered.....where did you play or do you still play?

jecko

dont get me wrong since i like DS supps but Melting point didnt really seemed to do anything for me. Diet was about the same as always. Funny thing is my brother said the same thing. i wonder if its genetics or something. I also took 8 pills a day. sucks being a non-responder.

Would there be any point in taking meltping if one is already taking a good out of fish oils, GLA and sesamine

Originally Posted by bigpump23

Would there be any point in taking meltping if one is already taking a good out of fish oils, GLA and sesamine

For extra fat loss melting point could be effective although you have to watch out with dosing melting point and sesamin simultaneously as other people have reported that the sesamin seems to make the side effects (cramps, lethargy etc) of melting point more pronounced.

still debating on it, anyone have any new thoughts?

If you do it, go for a reduced dose of both or either.

4 caps MP and 2 caps of Sesamin

or

6 caps MP, 1 cap sesamin.

Im on the last week of MP of 5 week @ 6-6-6-5-4 and it DEF works. I can def tell it increase's metabolism by the fact I was hungry after my MP dose. That wore off but the effects kept coming. No cramps, a little water retention and a good amount of BF lost. Im very please thus far and am interested see how things work out after my cycle ends. There would be nothing I would love more then being able to run another bottle or atleast another few weeks, but money doesnt grow on trees.. I would love to see the effects of this stuff over an even longer amount of time...anyway keep up the good work DS another great product and happy customer!!!

So all in all ... is the consensus that MP is worth at least trying for around a month? I've tried the Muscle-Tech crap and the results have always been minimal at best ...

Just wondering the reason(s) why MP Revamped is no longer mentioned on the DS Future Products page? Tks in advance.

Originally Posted by Dvas_Romeo

Just wondering the reason(s) why MP Revamped is no longer mentioned on the DS Future Products page? Tks in advance.

*bump*

It has been pushed back in favor of other projects. It may not actually be released, but we shall see.

Originally Posted by jOn_E_QuEsT

dont get me wrong since i like DS supps but Melting point didnt really seemed to do anything for me. Diet was about the same as always. Funny thing is my brother said the same thing. i wonder if its genetics or something. I also took 8 pills a day. sucks being a non-responder.

Don't feel bad, I was taking 8 caps a day also.. My girlfriend seems to lose weight just looking at the bottle..