[Syr]

Originally Posted by ironfiend54

I've been taking 8 a day, So far no noticable changes in recomp or fat loss...However, I have been getting very bad cramping still . Today was the worst and right now my calves are on fire and I'm having trouble standing up straight without pain. As of right now I am sorely dissapointed, it may still be too early to tell though. i know if the sides continue I will have to stop this second MP trial, it is interfering with my work and training....

Let me know if u continue, how the cramps go.

[TruffleShuffle]

Ok, took my first 2 caps of MP with my morning pill regime after breakfast. About 3 hours later i'm noticing my right calf starting to tighten.

Now my water intake isnt great at the best of times, but today i'm actively going to drink as much as i can to see what happens with this calf and wether or not it develops into anything more debilatating.

[TruffleShuffle]

Tightness gone within 2-3 hours of last post, whether this is down to me drinking enough water to start a hose pipe ban or wether this is the MP half-life running down, i guess i'll find out later when i take my next 2 pills.

Feel warmer but not significantly.

[wastedwhiteboy2]

my wife lost about 1/2 lb a week. she looks leaner. its a big deal for her to lose weight so the results were good, but I was hoping for 1lb/wk or more.

[finite_element]

Originally Posted by TINYTOAD

I have not noticed any changes in my strength.
My endurance seems to be about the same. I was pretty thirsty during my workout on Wednesday though.
My current dose is 8 caps / day. I'm stacking it with LX, GXR, and RXT.
There has been no change in my body temperature.
I am losing weight, and the results look promising.
At exactly two weeks, I'm down exactly eight pounds (I haven't had dinner yet tonight though).

I was curious about the inclusion of GXR and RXT in this. You mentioned in another thread that Robboe had suggested that, but I couldn't find that if it was posted. Just curious if you feel the GXR and RXT really made a difference in your results since you seemed to hint in another post that it did in fact make a difference. I ordered MP over the weekend and plan to take it with LX, similarly to how you did (same dosages).

Also TINYTOAD I was wondering what your final results ended up being. I know you said that 2 weeks was too short to provide adequate feedback, so I was wondering how it worked out for you (or are you still taking it?)

[TINYTOAD]

From what I recall, I lost something like 12 or 13 pounds in about three weeks. I stopped the MP because of cramping issues.
Robboe gave me recommendations for stacking MP with GXR, LX, and RXT in a private message. Yes, I think the GXR, LX, and RXT made a difference, because while dieting, I maintained all my muscle, and possibly even added a pound or two.
I started back with MP at 8 caps per day, about two weeks ago. I started off with the older "putty scented" MP, but have switched over to the newer stuff that has virtually no smell. As of this moment, I'm down six pounds. I have not experienced "The DOMS from Hell" or any significant cramping this time around. I have also supplemented my diet with potassium gluconate.
A key thing to remember, is that you need to have a good clean diet, and it helps to use something like the Calorie King software to help you count your calories, otherwise you might find yourself with increased hunger, and wind up canceling the benefits from MP, by inadvertently over-eating.

Originally Posted by finite_element

I was curious about the inclusion of GXR and RXT in this. You mentioned in another thread that Robboe had suggested that, but I couldn't find that if it was posted. Just curious if you feel the GXR and RXT really made a difference in your results since you seemed to hint in another post that it did in fact make a difference. I ordered MP over the weekend and plan to take it with LX, similarly to how you did (same dosages).

Also TINYTOAD I was wondering what your final results ended up being. I know you said that 2 weeks was too short to provide adequate feedback, so I was wondering how it worked out for you (or are you still taking it?)

[finite_element]

Originally Posted by TINYTOAD

From what I recall, I lost something like 12 or 13 pounds in about three weeks. I stopped the MP because of cramping issues.
Robboe gave me recommendations for stacking MP with GXR and RXT in a private message. Yes, I think the GXR and RXT made a difference, because while dieting, I maintained all my muscle, and possibly even added a pound or two.
I started back with MP at 8 caps per day, about two weeks ago. I started off with the older "putty scented" MP, but have switched over to the newer stuff that has virtually no smell. As of this moment, I'm down six pounds. I have not experienced "The DOMS from Hell" or any significant cramping this time around. I have also supplemented my diet with potassium gluconate.
A key thing to remember, is that you need to have a good clean diet, and it helps to use something like the Calorie King software to help you count your calories, otherwise you might find yourself with increased hunger, and wind up canceling the benefits from MP, by inadvertently over-eating.

Thanks for the information. I don't recall seeing any others that were using GXR and RXT, but it makes sense that they would help out in this situation.

My diet has been clean now for months and I have been tracking everything with the FitDay software. I plan all of my meals in advance so that I hit my macros/totals correctly. I have been following all of the melting point threads for a while on BB.com and only recently signed up over here to get more information. I've read and re-read many of the posts and with the recent price-break decided to go ahead and give it a shot. I do appreciate the response.

[Jodi]

yesterday I upped my dosage to 8 caps per day and I'm in my 2nd week. I'm not noticing any sides still. Weird I must be the only one.

[joe weider]

Originally Posted by Jodi

yesterday I upped my dosage to 8 caps per day and I'm in my 2nd week. I'm not noticing any sides still. Weird I must be the only one.

don't get too comfy, I was well into my third week before the sides hit.

[BodyWizard]

Originally Posted by TruffleShuffle

Tightness gone within 2-3 hours of last post, whether this is down to me drinking enough water to start a hose pipe ban or wether this is the MP half-life running down, i guess i'll find out later when i take my next 2 pills.

Feel warmer but not significantly.

at 3-something hours, "half-life" is not a factor: you're over-analysing, have little-to-no data of your own yet (at this point), and forgetting that it will take 3-5 days for systemic levels to stabilise, maybe another 5-10 days for your body's response to develop (besides heat) & the various pathways get up-to-speed or whatever; by 2 weeks, you should have definite effects to take note of, including sides, if any.

you're probably drinking *too much* water - until you get stable MP levels, & start detecting genuine effects (see above), normal intake for your climate/activitylevel, etc will probably be adequate. instead of lots more water NOW, try 12oz of electroyte replacement, starting at 10 days.


I know that I'm replying to an old post, but thought this might have value still.

TruffleShuffle - how 'bout an update? how're you doin?

[brogers]

Down roughly 6 pounds in 2 weeks, also using GXR 2-3x a day. Cramping/Soreness in calves, hamstrings, traps, and bis/forearms. But I like the stuff too much to stop. I think I may not be getting enough potassium. Headaches were also a problem, but drinking more water helped.

[Dvas_Romeo]

Originally Posted by brogers

Down roughly 6 pounds in 2 weeks, also using GXR 2-3x a day. Cramping/Soreness in calves, hamstrings, traps, and bis/forearms. But I like the stuff too much to stop. I think I may not be getting enough potassium. Headaches were also a problem, but drinking more water helped.

hi brogers, how many caps you taking a day?

[brogers]

6 caps, couple times i've fallen asleep though and only gotten 4 in. When I started I weighed 181.5 in the morning, today i weighed in at 174.5, but I was a little dehydrated.
I seem to sleep more and need more sleep to feel rested also.

[Robboe]

Are you holding any water beneath the skin also, brogers?

[brogers]

Well I just came off today, woke up at 174.0 normal hydration. I was on it for 24 days I believe.

Robboe, I think I am holding a bit of water on my abdomen, i'll respond again in several days, as it clears my system, only time will tell for sure.

[Robboe]

Well?

[Stuntdawg]

As an aside, I've found the rise in body temperature to be most apparent. I had cramping issues during the first week that made cardio a miserable experience. However, the cramping subsided by week 2. Moving along now, having complete a full four weeks, the body heat is most noticeable. I literally feel an esclating rise in core temp and subsequently, feel sweat come on to cool my body off. I'm on a mild-cut at the moment. If anything, I wanted to see how I would respond to MP.