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  1. Use of Activate during bridge/Cut


    Hi There.. I am finishing up a SD/UH/Prostana cycle in a few weeks, and want to bridge using Activate/ReboundXT into a MaxLMG/Ergomax cycle

    What dosage should I run for Activate - double the normal ok?

    Also, at the end of the ergo cycle, i am going to start a cut running Clen/UH/Activate - should I up the dosage here as well as I am doing a cut?

    Also, given I am ordering three bottles, would it be more beneficial to stay on Activate after the bridge, for the four weeks I am on Max LMG/ERgomax? Does Activate lose effectivness after 6/8 weeks?

    Thanks.


    Thanks for the help


  2. Quote Originally Posted by solarize
    Hi There.. I am finishing up a SD/UH/Prostana cycle in a few weeks, and want to bridge using Activate/ReboundXT into a MaxLMG/Ergomax cycle

    What dosage should I run for Activate - double the normal ok?
    The 20 caps/day is the recommended dosing. You can go higher than this if you wish. I wanna run 30 caps/day quite soon.

    Out of interest, how long are you planning to bridge for? Four weeks?

    Also, at the end of the ergo cycle, i am going to start a cut running Clen/UH/Activate - should I up the dosage here as well as I am doing a cut?
    It's not necessary, but you can if you like.

    Also, given I am ordering three bottles, would it be more beneficial to stay on Activate after the bridge, for the four weeks I am on Max LMG/ERgomax? Does Activate lose effectivness after 6/8 weeks?
    It shouldn't loose effectiveness, but one question that has been asked before that i am not sure of, is whether SHBG effects exogenous compounds such as ergomax (and the like). Theoretically, if SHBG does not effect the likes of ergo, and the ergo itself is reducing your own test production, using activate would not be such a great idea. However, if SHBG does effect the likes of ergo, then it should theoretically make the cycle more effective.

    But i dunno. Personally i'd save the activate for after the PH/androgen use.
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  3. Would Activate be better used during my PCT which lasts 4 weeks or would it be better used after my PCT has ended, I can't really find a conclusive answer. I've got 3 bottles of the beta even though my PCT doesn't begin until August 27th.

  4. I have 2 questions:

    The ActivaTe write-up says, "has been shown to have a high affinity for binding to SHBG and also have a significant effect on reducing SHBG's ability to bind testosterone and DHT." I think this means that in the end, ActivaTe reduces SHBG levels (or does something equivalent). Is that right?

    This isn't my field, but from reading the attached link, SHBG binds to a lot more DHT than testosterone (3.4 times as much). Doesn't this mean ActivaTe will release 3.4 times as much bound DHT compared to bound testosterone? I think so since the article implies androgenic alopecia can result from low SHBG. Increasing DHT might be great for some, but could be a concern for others.
    http://www.dpcweb.com/documents/news...ts/zb170-b.pdf

    From table 1: SHBG equilibrium constants at 37 degree C
    (K in units of 1E9/M)
    DHT 5.5
    Testosterone 1.6
    Androstenediol 1.5
    Estradiol 0.68
    Estrone 0.15
    DHEA 0.066
    Progesterone 0.09



    Thanks.

  5. We could really use Dr. D for a complete explanation on this topic.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Robboe
    The 20 caps/day is the recommended dosing. You can go higher than this if you wish. I wanna run 30 caps/day quite soon.

    Out of interest, how long are you planning to bridge for? Four weeks?


    It's not necessary, but you can if you like.


    It shouldn't loose effectiveness, but one question that has been asked before that i am not sure of, is whether SHBG effects exogenous compounds such as ergomax (and the like). Theoretically, if SHBG does not effect the likes of ergo, and the ergo itself is reducing your own test production, using activate would not be such a great idea. However, if SHBG does effect the likes of ergo, then it should theoretically make the cycle more effective.

    But i dunno. Personally i'd save the activate for after the PH/androgen use.
    I'll be bridging for 2 weeks. yes this won't bring me fully back to production, But I think its preferrable to doing a full 8 week cycle.
    Hope the stuff gets through Aussie customs etc Looking forward to some big bottles.

    Benn
  7. Activate and Exogenous Test


    AAS suppress natural test production (more or less). So, its not effective to employ ActivaTe while "on".
    But... what about test? Consider doing a test-only cycle or a part of a more complex cycle when you are running only testosterone for 2-3 weeks (this makes even more sense with a suspension or even a transdermal base).

    Second question (because i'm lazy to search), how long is safe to run the NHA? I was thinking of 6 weeks but stopping the RXT at 4 weeks.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    AAS suppress natural test production (more or less). So, its not effective to employ ActivaTe while "on".
    But... what about test? Consider doing a test-only cycle or a part of a more complex cycle when you are running only testosterone for 2-3 weeks (this makes even more sense with a suspension or even a transdermal base).

    Second question (because i'm lazy to search), how long is safe to run the NHA? I was thinking of 6 weeks but stopping the RXT at 4 weeks.
    1. Huh?

    2. 4 weeks is ideal, 8 weeks is great, but 12 weeks really needs to be the max.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Robboe
    1. Huh?

    2. 4 weeks is ideal, 8 weeks is great, but 12 weeks really needs to be the max.
    1. To put it simpler, would be useful to take ActivaTe when on Test (without other AAS)?

    2. Would 2 or 3 weeks give some effect? Otherwise I could preload 1-2weeks.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    1. To put it simpler, would be useful to take ActivaTe when on Test (without other AAS)?
    T or 4AD, for shizzle.

    Other stuff like SD/PP i'm not so sure. Would depend on whether SHBG exerts the same effects on these compounds.

    2. Would 2 or 3 weeks give some effect? Otherwise I could preload 1-2weeks.
    2-3 weeks should give similar results , yeah. It only takes about 5 days to really kick-in.
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  11. activate's effect on libido


    I just finished a four max lmg cycle and i am using ultra hot and lx for pct. the thing is is that my libido is still down quite a bit. i was curious if activate would help get me goin again in that area.

  12. Very possibly.

    How far are you into PCT? If only a week (or there abouts), give it a bit longer to see if it comes back in week 2.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Robboe
    T or 4AD, for shizzle.

    Other stuff like SD/PP i'm not so sure. Would depend on whether SHBG exerts the same effects on these compounds.

    2-3 weeks should give similar results , yeah. It only takes about 5 days to really kick-in.
    Good, its exactly what i wanted to know
    I dont like 4ad btw

  14. ACT can be used on cycle. It will be most effective with injectables, but will still have significant benefit with most orals. It may be of value at the beginning of a cycle. This could be economical and save on sides too because you would not have to front load as aggressively with your androgens. Therefore, it could be used as a jump starter, like Syr was thinking. It could also be helpful right at the end of a cycle (last 2-3 weeks) once gains become stagnant. It could refresh the effects of androgen without you needing to increase the dose again so close to PCT. This is good of course because dose bumps at the end make PCT's take longer. I plan to try it in both of these ways, but it probably should be cycled just to maintain potency of effect. I think Rob was right on when he said 3 months max, then off 1-2 months. Or 2 months on, 1 month off. Unlike steroids, the majority of time with ACT should be on cycle because of the numerous health benefits. Has Rob released the write-up yet? Read it when he does, this stuff is all good. Beneficial for the cardiovascular system, joints and soft tissue inflammation, immune system, prostate, you name it. And that's just in addition to its main function, test booster! It can be used to bridge cycles, reduce sides, refresh the effectiveness of longer cycles, and kick start. I may have forgot a few. Oh yeah, combined with RXT as a standalone NHA stack. In case I haven't said it before, I really like this stuff!!

  15. bumping an old thread

    i know dosing is 20 caps a day.

    how is the split. 5 with breakfast. 5 before workout 5 after workout 5 at bed time ?
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by olb33
    bumping an old thread

    i know dosing is 20 caps a day.

    how is the split. 5 with breakfast. 5 before workout 5 after workout 5 at bed time ?
    I'd just do it 5caps per 6hrs, or as close as possible. Like 6am,12noon,5pm,10pm (assuming you go to bed at 10)

  17. that is exactyl my day

    thanks
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  18. Why not just take ACT prior to your workout?

    If ACT makes more Test available why not just take it say 1 hour before your workout, get the bonus to your workout and then let it subside for the rest of the day?

    I ask this cause i have ACT coming my way (i hope, i placed the order when stock was available and now there isnt any but i havent recieved any shipping notice) and i'm afraid of ripping someones head off with all that free Test floating round me 24hours a day.

  19. People have tried this (30 mins before training) and have noted significant differences in trainign quality.
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  20. please explain...

  21. Some of the beta users have spaced one of their 5 cap dosings with their pre-lifting ritual and reported better pumps than usual, mild strength gains above usual and more focus.
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  22. What i think i might try then is taking Rebound XT in the morning and before bed as suggested. Then, say for the first week, take an Activate serving only prior to my workout to see it's effects.

    Then try Activate on regular dosing for the next 2 weeks and note any differences in everything from workout to personal attitude.

    Sound a good idea?

  23. I like to experiment with new products too. It's the best way to really understand it's effectiveness, limitations and potential.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by TruffleShuffle
    What i think i might try then is taking Rebound XT in the morning and before bed as suggested. Then, say for the first week, take an Activate serving only prior to my workout to see it's effects.

    Then try Activate on regular dosing for the next 2 weeks and note any differences in everything from workout to personal attitude.

    Sound a good idea?
    It shirley is.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by rrgg
    I have 2 questions:

    The ActivaTe write-up says, "has been shown to have a high affinity for binding to SHBG and also have a significant effect on reducing SHBG's ability to bind testosterone and DHT." I think this means that in the end, ActivaTe reduces SHBG levels (or does something equivalent). Is that right?

    This isn't my field, but from reading the attached link, SHBG binds to a lot more DHT than testosterone (3.4 times as much). Doesn't this mean ActivaTe will release 3.4 times as much bound DHT compared to bound testosterone? I think so since the article implies androgenic alopecia can result from low SHBG. Increasing DHT might be great for some, but could be a concern for others.
    http://www.dpcweb.com/documents/news...ts/zb170-b.pdf

    From table 1: SHBG equilibrium constants at 37 degree C
    (K in units of 1E9/M)
    DHT 5.5
    Testosterone 1.6
    Androstenediol 1.5
    Estradiol 0.68
    Estrone 0.15
    DHEA 0.066
    Progesterone 0.09



    Thanks.
    Can anyone from DS respond? Great post rrgg, esp since I'm using a rather high dose right now

    O14

  26. Anything with high binding affinity for this protein will be affected. ACT does not appear to slow PCT response (it in fact seems well tailored for PCT), so unbound DHT must not be a signifigant concern, even if it is an interesting issue. I have seen no reports of enhanced or induced alopecia.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D
    Anything with high binding affinity for this protein will be affected. ACT does not appear to slow PCT response (it in fact seems well tailored for PCT), so unbound DHT must not be a signifigant concern, even if it is an interesting issue. I have seen no reports of enhanced or induced alopecia.
    So there is still a chance that this product, used over time, will have DHT related side effects? Paired with the RXT I would think this could be a problem. Any ideas?

    O14

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Odessa14
    So there is still a chance that this product, used over time, will have DHT related side effects? Paired with the RXT I would think this could be a problem. Any ideas?

    O14
    I would hope so... DHT goes up whenever T goes up, paribus ceteris.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by SilentScream27
    I would hope so... DHT goes up whenever T goes up, paribus ceteris.
    Total T goes down on ActivaTe, Free T goes up.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by biggjohn
    Total T goes down on ActivaTe, Free T goes up.
    true, but, DHT is 5-alpha reduced T, and 5-alpha reductase can only act on bioavailable T. so I should have been more specific, increases in free T ----> increases in DHT (barring presence of 5AR inhibitor).
  

  
 

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