Melting Point Write-Up

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Robboe
    P.s. Your eye-vatar (nice one robboe) is creepy as hell.
    Thank you!
    Just doing my part to keep the thread-length down....


  2. Curious... Can MP deplete glycogen levels the same way sesathin does during the first week of use? I seem to recall some discussion at Avant about going a little flat during the first week.
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  3. Any issues with cross-border shipping to Canada?

    I don't know why there would be but hell even SesaThin got bounced by the border enforcers now??

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Lean One
    Curious... Can MP deplete glycogen levels the same way sesathin does during the first week of use? I seem to recall some discussion at Avant about going a little flat during the first week.
    It's not so much that sesathin depletes glycogen, more it seems to dampen glycogen synthesis. This is typically why it is recommended to avoid sesathin during refeeds, but knock yourself out with it if you splurge or cheat.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Malek256
    Any issues with cross-border shipping to Canada?

    I don't know why there would be but hell even SesaThin got bounced by the border enforcers now??
    No idea, sorry. There shouldn't be, but i really dunno.
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  6. Since SesaThin dampens glycogen synthesis, coud you reasonably infer to avoid if in conjunction with SD? Especially for a bulk SD run, but would this impact be significant on a SD cut?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Malek256
    Any issues with cross-border shipping to Canada?

    I don't know why there would be but hell even SesaThin got bounced by the border enforcers now??
    I'll be letting fellow canucks know about this soon enough

  8. Count me among the skeptical. It contains all of the same info that the SesaThin write-up does, so old info for a lot of us. In addition, the product write-up was done by someone who doesn't even know all of the ingredients, that just doesn't make any sense to me. IMHO, it wasn't much of a product write-up, it was more like biology lesson.

    Sorry, but I was hoping for more.

  9. those numbers were really impressive, but then again, they should be costing 130 dollars and 195 dollars

  10. Quote Originally Posted by italionstallion
    those numbers were really impressive, but then again, they should be costing 130 dollars and 195 dollars
    Good point.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Magickk
    Since SesaThin dampens glycogen synthesis, coud you reasonably infer to avoid if in conjunction with SD? Especially for a bulk SD run, but would this impact be significant on a SD cut?
    The health benefits that Melting Point can offer, particularly on blood profiles, makes low dose ideal during methylated PH cycles. Just eat more for bulking.

    On a cut you should be fine. Just keep dose low when you refeed, and refeed reasonably frequently, which you should really be doing anyway.
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  12. And we don't know yet if that would actuall give us two and three bottles respectivly..... we assume but have not received confirmation.



    Quote Originally Posted by italionstallion
    those numbers were really impressive, but then again, they should be costing 130 dollars and 195 dollars

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Onslaught
    Count me among the skeptical. It contains all of the same info that the SesaThin write-up does, so old info for a lot of us. In addition, the product write-up was done by someone who doesn't even know all of the ingredients, that just doesn't make any sense to me. IMHO, it wasn't much of a product write-up, it was more like biology lesson.

    Sorry, but I was hoping for more.
    Then tell me, what would you like to know?
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by italionstallion
    those numbers were really impressive, but then again, they should be costing 130 dollars and 195 dollars
    I don't follow.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Mr.50
    And we don't know yet if that would actuall give us two and three bottles respectivly..... we assume but have not received confirmation.
    Not if doing 3 and 4 times recommended dosing.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by italionstallion
    those numbers were really impressive, but then again, they should be costing 130 dollars and 195 dollars
    Right, Matt is DOUBLE dose and Steve is TRIPLE dose.

    Not that the weight loss wasn't impressive - it really truly was - but at that price you could hire Bobo and make LIFESTYLE changes rather than taking an additional 4 pills a day.

    BP

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Robboe
    I don't follow.
    If Steve is doing triple the dosing, it's costing him $65 x 3 (he'll go through it 3 times as fast).

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Robboe
    Actually, if i leave it to them you'll be waiting an age.

    Without changes in diet, Steve has dropped 3.5lbs this week (yes, mr non-responder himself), whereas matt has dropped 4lbs this week, also without dietary amendment.
    They dropped 3.5 and 4lbs of what? This weight has to be mostly glycogen, I would think.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Robboe
    Then tell me, what would you like to know?
    Actives ingredients, references and assumptions drawn from them.

  20. Steve is double-dose, Matt is triple-dose.

    Most people using Melting Point will (i expect) be dieting and therefore using sub-maintenance calories. Steve and Matt are heffers, they're not trying to lose weight. They're just going about their usual eating routines, but adding MP to the fray to see what happens.

    Maintaining weight despite the calories would be nice. Actually dropping weight is awesome. To me at least.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Onslaught
    They dropped 3.5 and 4lbs of what? This weight has to be mostly glycogen, I would think.
    In the other thread, Steve hasn't contested that. He says if he does it again next week without dietary amendment he'll be happy that it is working.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Onslaught
    Actives ingredients, references and assumptions drawn from them.
    No and no to the first two. We have a company to operate and don't want copycat companies stealng the ideas that Matt has researched so much. Nor do we want online companies selling the actives in bulk, harming our sales.

    We're not the only company employing this technique - Ergo aren't releasing the active(s) of AMP either.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Robboe
    No and no to the first two. We have a company to operate and don't want copycat companies stealng the ideas that Matt has researched so much. Nor do we want online companies selling the actives in bulk, harming our sales.

    We're not the only company employing this technique - Ergo aren't releasing the active(s) of AMP either.
    But you still need to list the ingredients at some point, even if it's a constituent hidden in an ingredient that does the magic.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Onslaught
    But you still need to list the ingredients at some point, even if it's a constituent hidden in an ingredient that does the magic.
    We have listed the ingredient - It's called LipidAce.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Onslaught
    IMHO, it wasn't much of a product write-up, it was more like biology lesson.
    By the way, the reason why the write-up is not so indepth is also partly because DS has plans for general world domination, and not everyone knows the basics of biochemistry, let alone more detailed information. The write-up has to be enough to let you know how the product works, but also easy enough for the majority of readers to at least comprehend.

    Apologies for those with chemistry and physiology majors that wanted textbook-like material.
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  26. When is the expected ship date of the pre sale?

  27. 175 bottles tonight at 12:00est


    ohhh noo... hope your servers are better than the SD presales

  28. MP sounds yummy. Another fine write-up Robboe.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Robboe
    Midnight Eastern, tonight. If you can't figure this out, no soup for you!
    Dude, c'mon... I was just trying to confuse everyone else

    -kwantam

  30. Quote Originally Posted by StanChampion
    175 bottles tonight at 12:00est


    ohhh noo... hope your servers are better than the SD presales
    So true... DS is in desperate-need of some coding-talent and hosting. That site, omg
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