ActivaTe updates?

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  1. erstaz, I wasn't coming off any PH's or aas. I'm not sure why it was so low. I know I've been feeling more fatigued for the last year or so, which seems to correspond to my gains coming to a halt. It seemed to get worse my last semester in college. So, I went to get bloodwork done thinking thyroid or diabetes (runs in my mom's family) once my insurance kicked in at the end of '04. My doc prescribed Androgel. I told him no thanks after reading feedback here and there. I asked for cyp. He said no, he didn't like dealing w/ the paperwork and constant inquires from the DEA/FBI/whomever else. Pretty sad. So, he referred me to an endo. I'm going to go see him in a few weeks for another test. So, I was hoping to start taking the activaTe before going to the endo to see what the endo thought of it as an HRT supp. (He's going to do a full scale blood test, so should be a good indicator of what it can do overall.) I found out my insurance doesn't cover cyp, only androgel. And I'm not paying over $100 for a 10mL bottle. So, I was planning on running activaTe (& some PH's) if it works well enough. I'm quite sure it will be cheaper than cyp, and hopefully more effective than androgel.


  2. TP -- is the pre-sale date of the third week of April still valid?

    On a side note, as an improvement to the DS site, has DS considered adding a small section with the latest release dates for products, licensed or otherwise? It may save a lot of unnecessary questions.
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  3. It should be, yes.

  4. Also look into getting the prescription for the test cyp from the endo and then if you are able to purchase it from "other" cheaper sources you will have some assistance if you get caught with it because you will have a prescription. But think long and hard about going on HRT at this stage. Really push the Endo to try to figure out the cause of the hypogonadism (low test) rather then just put you on HRT for the rest of your life.

    Mr.50


    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
    erstaz, I wasn't coming off any PH's or aas. I'm not sure why it was so low. I know I've been feeling more fatigued for the last year or so, which seems to correspond to my gains coming to a halt. It seemed to get worse my last semester in college. So, I went to get bloodwork done thinking thyroid or diabetes (runs in my mom's family) once my insurance kicked in at the end of '04. My doc prescribed Androgel. I told him no thanks after reading feedback here and there. I asked for cyp. He said no, he didn't like dealing w/ the paperwork and constant inquires from the DEA/FBI/whomever else. Pretty sad. So, he referred me to an endo. I'm going to go see him in a few weeks for another test. So, I was hoping to start taking the activaTe before going to the endo to see what the endo thought of it as an HRT supp. (He's going to do a full scale blood test, so should be a good indicator of what it can do overall.) I found out my insurance doesn't cover cyp, only androgel. And I'm not paying over $100 for a 10mL bottle. So, I was planning on running activaTe (& some PH's) if it works well enough. I'm quite sure it will be cheaper than cyp, and hopefully more effective than androgel.

  5. Yeah, that is true. He already said that, he seems like a good doc. Re other test - a 'script is no good unless it's on the bottle.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Twin Peak
    Actually, we have it. Its just not labeled yet. We will be selecting testers shortly, though.

  7. We have four testers selected so far, I think Matt has informed them all that it will ship out tomorrow. It should be for sale by weeks end.

  8. TP, can you address the issue of how the powder tastes, and also whether or not the capsules are gelatin? Thank you.

  9. Matt and I just popped open a cap each, and its not that bad. It tastes like something burnt. I tried it raw, and also with water.

    And yes, its gelatin caps.

  10. TP,

    For the Beta sale, how long will a bottle last based on servings? I know you mentioned the initial "run" will require 20-capsules each time, so I wondered how many caps per bottle?

  11. 300 caps per bottle, so its 15 days. You will need at least 2 bottles.

  12. and any ideas yet on a price for a beta run bottle?

    Mr.50


    Quote Originally Posted by Stuntdawg
    TP,

    For the Beta sale, how long will a bottle last based on servings? I know you mentioned the initial "run" will require 20-capsules each time, so I wondered how many caps per bottle?

  13. $27/bottle.

    It will be available on Thursday, there are only 1000 bottles available.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Twin Peak
    $27/bottle.

    It will be available on Thursday, there are only 1000 bottles available.
    How fast before you get the second batch done? I noticed there is sometimes some lag time between DS' first batch of a product and his second.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by LCSULLA
    How fast before you get the second batch done? I noticed there is sometimes some lag time between DS' first batch of a product and his second.
    That depends. He said they've sourced a new supplier with a higher extract so you'll only need to pop 2-3 caps a day instead of 20. Give them a bit leeway to sort all that business and get labels done for the retailers and they'll be good to go by the sound of it.

  16. When are you guys going to drop the write up on us? Hopefully before its for sale?

  17. 20 caps/day?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Twin Peak
    Matt and I just popped open a cap each, and its not that bad. It tastes like something burnt. I tried it raw, and also with water.

    And yes, its gelatin caps.
    Could you elaborate on the taste? Will the "burnt" flavor ruin a protein shake along the lines of a green tea extract? Or is it unpalatable when mixed in water? I'd like to confirm this before I commit to buy several bottles during the presale. Thanks.

  19. How long are we going to get to test this? One bottle - 15 days or 2 for a full month?

  20. Lets see....

    * Testers will get a full month (honestly, I doubt you will see enough in 2 weeks).
    * At this point I have no idea how fast the first run will run out, and I have less of an idea on when the next run will be available (we are still waiting on a sample to test before we order). I can say that there will not be a delay between runs 2 and 3. That is a promise. There will likely be a substantial delay between 1 and 2, unfortunately.
    * I cannot comment on the taste of the powder any more than I have. I'd be lying otherwise. I have not placed any in a shake, let alone 10-20 caps.
    * Yes, Chasec, 20 caps.
    * The write-up is being done now, it will not be available before Thursday.

    Cheers.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Twin Peak
    Lets see....

    * Testers will get a full month (honestly, I doubt you will see enough in 2 weeks).
    * At this point I have no idea how fast the first run will run out, and I have less of an idea on when the next run will be available (we are still waiting on a sample to test before we order). I can say that there will not be a delay between runs 2 and 3. That is a promise. There will likely be a substantial delay between 1 and 2, unfortunately.
    * I cannot comment on the taste of the powder any more than I have. I'd be lying otherwise. I have not placed any in a shake, let alone 10-20 caps.
    * Yes, Chasec, 20 caps.
    * The write-up is being done now, it will not be available before Thursday.

    Cheers.
    Thanks TP

  22. No problem.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by chasec
    20 caps/day?
    Chas, this is the "safe" dose. It will work at this dose for sure. It may work with less, but the effects are dose dependent. 10 pills/d may work great for you, but it really should be tested at the proper, full estimated dose for initial assessment. You can't OD on it, it only strengthens the effects when dose is increased.

  24. Was any alpha testing done?
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