SD epi cycle?

[Ironmale]

How does this look for the cycle info

Week 1 - 30mg SD
Week 2- 30mg SD
Week 3- 10mg SD Epistane 20mg
Week 4- 10mg SD Epistane 20mg
Week 5- Epistane 30mg
Week 6 Epistane 30mg

I have ran SD solo at 10/20/20/20
it worked awesome
just wanted to see how people felt about this type of cycle

i am 22 looking for an awesome mass builder
diet has been on key for over 8 months

 

[RedwolfWV]

Just my .02, but I'd never run another methyl with SD, under any circumstances.

 

[Ironmale]

yea most people would say that
its prolly smarter to not run both
what about maybe bridge into one
or ill just run the SD solo like before
i just have the epi lying around

 

[EasyEJL]

If you were going to do a stack instead, I wouldn't do 6 weeks, and I wouldn't go higher than you've taken superdrol at before. At 30mg a day, the lethargy + back pumps are significantly worse than at 20. Going longer just further guarantees suppression, and you are starting with the higher dose more suppressive compound. If you really felt a deep need to do 6 weeks, more sensible would be 3 weeks of epistane @30, 1 week of epistane @30 and superdrol at 10, and 2 weeks of superdrol @ 20.

I think overall tho, just doing superdrol as 10mg week 1, 20 for weeks 2 and 3, and maybe 30 for week 4 is likely a better bet as far as side effects and stuff go.

 

[thundergod]

I don't see anything wrong in combining both of them together for a short 3-weeker. That's what I plan to do on my next cycle. 20 mg. of both per day for 3 weeks. You won't see many more gains past this point anyway. I might bump the epi up to 30 mg. per day after the first week though. Depends on how it all feels after that first initial week. Hell I might even bump the super up to 30 mg. by the third week into it. Finish that third week @ 30 mg. of both compounds!:twisted: I'm definately gonna do a log on it, because I see alot of people asking about an epi/superdrol combo stack. I like shorter blitzkreig-type cycles over longer, smaller dose cycles. That's just me of course. Some folks call me :fool2:

 

[Diamonite]

That's not a smart cycle. More does not equal better.

 

[thundergod]

That's not a smart cycle. More does not equal better.

While I respect your opinion, at 44 years of age, I've probably run more cycles than you've had peices of a$$ my friend!! :rasp:These dosages are NOT outrageous for a 6'3 and 265 lb. BULL like myself! If you're not adventurous, you'll never really find your potential for growth. Be a little more open-minded and don't simply be a playback machine for all the sh*t you've heard and read, but don't know about! Do some more searching dude!!:gotsearch

 

[Diamonite]

I'm confident in my research. Confident enough to suggest to a fellow 22 year old with one SD cycle in his past that 2 methyl compounds, especially one of them being SD, is not a good idea for a second run. Especially at those doses. How about reconsidering both of those into a pulse cycle. I'm adventurous. Just not ****ing stupid. Sorry BIG BULL. rofl

 

[thundergod]

I'm confident in my research. Confident enough to suggest to a fellow 22 year old with one SD cycle in his past that 2 methyl compounds, especially one of them being SD, is not a good idea for a second run. Especially at those doses. How about reconsidering both of those into a pulse cycle. I'm adventurous. Just not ****ing stupid. Sorry BIG BULL. rofl

Forgive me again if I don't agree with you. And I really don't like being called "***ing stupid" by you or anyone else. I'm not in the mood for some amatuer flaming.:smite: 22 year olds with little experience with lifting, proper nutrition, and prohormone knowledge can't tell me what I should be doing with my body. I keep check on blood lipids and my blood pressure. These dosages are NOT overly adventurous nor dangerous. Neither is combing 2 methyls! But preach all you want about what you don't really know about in real-world experience!! Flame-on O Wise One!!:smite:

 

[Diamonite]

This has to be joke. Like one of those fake accounts right? Trolls I think they're called.

Is that you in your avatar? You poor sloppy excuse of a powerlifter. Rambling on about how you get your bloodwork done to prove you know your ****. ROFL.

 

[thundergod]

This has to be joke. Like one of those fake accounts right? Trolls I think they're called.

Is that you in your avatar? You poor sloppy excuse of a powerlifter. Rambling on about how you get your bloodwork done to prove you know your ****. ROFL.

Okay, you've officially pissed me off now!:aargh: Yes, that is me in my avatar. And a "poor sloppy excuse for a powerlifter" eh? I'll have your snotty-ass know that I'm 44 years old and 265 lbs. you freaking twit! Why don't you post a picture of your puny pathetic self? What? Only a buck-seventyfive perhaps? Oh, or are you bulking up to an incredible 190 lbs. now? Find something educational to do little man. I'm here only to "leaarn, teach, and lead". If you're here just for flaming, why don't you cross over to the real mature BB.COM?!!

 

[CuChulainn]

way for you guys to ruin this guys thread with needless bickering. funny enough, i am pretty sure that what you got so upset about thundergod was not even a response to your post, but to the original post. 3 weeks of stacking methyls is different (significantly less crazy) than 6 weeks of the same.

It is just my humble opinion that you should take the least amount of supplements that give the needed results. If you can gain 10-15# on a cycle of superdrol and 8-12# on a cycle of epi, why would you combine them and end up gaining 12-20# instead of doing each cycle separately a few months apart (more bang for your buck, and for your liver cells). Obviously this doesnt apply if you are a weak responder to certain substances because you are hoss (240#+) or because you just naturally dont respond as well to them. (or because your so far past your natural physical "limit" that you need the chems to make the extra gains)

That being said, i got ~10-12# LBM with half a bottle of superdrol on a pulse cycle, and it will be my bulking supplement of choice from now on. Tho i intend to try hdrol for cutting/recomp. The KISS concept is going strong in my world.

 

[TheeBC]

haha, this is great...you look like someone who pops pills and cant diet correctly, therefore you've renamed yourself as a "powerlifter". My dads 44 and rocks ur sh!t. Amen. wanna pic? he aint a beast, but he puts up weight that SD makes you reach. "I feel sorry for your mutha" - Don't Be a Menace

And to the thread starter, bro..imma run this too. I've done 1 SD, 3 PP. SD week 1-3 20/20/20 - Epistane week 3-6 20/30/40/40...

 

[thundergod]

haha, this is great...you look like someone who pops pills and cant diet correctly, therefore you've renamed yourself as a "powerlifter". My dads 44 and rocks ur sh!t. Amen. wanna pic? he aint a beast, but he puts up weight that SD makes you reach. "I feel sorry for your mutha" - Don't Be a Menace

And to the thread starter, bro..imma run this too. I've done 1 SD, 3 PP. SD week 1-3 20/20/20 - Epistane week 3-6 20/30/40/40...

Are you talking about me, you little twit? I've NEVER came on here to insult anyone. It's a freaking shame that you and diamondite haven't got something better to do than flame me!:smite: I haven't renamed myself as anything, powerlifter or not! Yeah, let's see a "pic' of big ol' Dad! And I see you're a VERY "normal" 193 lbs. Poor little frustrated guy who can't train hard enough to grow. Just stick to the aerobics little man! And I reached a 610 deadlift, a 575 squat, and a 375 Bench BEFORE superdrol or anything other than hard work, whey protein and creatine. So shut your puny little trap!!:twisted:

 

[TheeBC]

GOOBER, ur funny. you think you're a real bad ass with your "high dosed" ph. no one thinks ur crazy for it, they think...
"you're....uhhh stupid?" Powerlifters...go to google, select images. type in powerlifter....you wont see yourself in there or anyone look as terrible. Your lifts are all talk, just like saying ur wifes got a bigger ****then you, unfortunately, i've seen it. I may be 193, but I get respect with 193, you were one of those kids who was tall and dumb at school, I remember ones just like you. We call them GOOBERS. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[thundergod]

GOOBER, ur funny. you think you're a real bad ass with your "high dosed" ph. no one thinks ur crazy for it, they think...
"you're....uhhh stupid?" Powerlifters...go to google, select images. type in powerlifter....you wont see yourself in there or anyone look as terrible. Your lifts are all talk, just like saying ur wifes got a bigger ****then you, unfortunately, i've seen it. I may be 193, but I get respect with 193, you were one of those kids who was tall and dumb at school, I remember ones just like you. We call them GOOBERS. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What are my 'high' doses of PH's that you speak of? Yeah, You've really earned my respect you huge and mighty giant you! Gee, if only I was 193 lbs. of puny little crap!! You don't remember my kind from school man. Because I would have been the one kicking the living crap out of your pathetic a$$!:FUfinger:!! I curl more than you can probably deadlift Jr.Mac!! But, like I said before, just stick to the aerobics and leave real weight-lifting to the men!! Now, no more retaliation from me. I'm gonna grow up now. I suggest you and your tiny friend diamonite do the same. I can help it if you guys can't train hard enought to crack the 200 lb. mark. You just don't have the heart!!:rasp:

 

[thundergod]

Plus, TheeBC--- I "see' your respect. 10 lousy reputation points!! You don't even deserve those. Check out my reputation points. My rep points exceed my posts even! I'm more respected here than you will ever be!! Go on over to "cryBaBy.com" You would be welcome there!! And, PLEASE grow up, little man. The Napolean attitude isn't very becoming!!

 

[TheeBC]

lol, the OGARRRR! was so mad he came back 8 minutes later and thought "this big humungus 193kg kid just got the best of me, damn hes good, lets see if I can insult him some more." I know!, I'll call him puny, little, and tiny. that'll serve him RIGHT!" haha and crybaby.com? I guess thats funny... Ha................ha........ha. do something geezer. you take SD because Viagra can't get you up. sorry to the board, im simply entertaining.

 

[LSU Gladiator]

What about running epi and puling SD on the work out days?

I'm thinking about running EPI/SD like this:

Week 1
W/O days SD @ 10mg epi @ 10-20mg
Off days epi @ 10-20mg

Wk 2-4
W/O days SD @ 10mg epi @ 20-30mg
Off days epi @ 20-30mg

I posted the epi in ranges, because I don't know how I'll respond but I'm all about the lowest effective dose. I would only use SD on W/O days, and accordingly I would only be using it before my workout (isn't that the most important time to have a PH?) at 10 mg. Liver + cycle support + PCT implied

 

[TheeBC]

dude, that looks good. Im setting something up similar in the supplement region but as far as dosing, not even, imma pm you.

 

[Chad]

Just my .02, but I'd never run another methyl with SD, under any circumstances.

WHAT???!!!!!

so i guess you dont agree with my Testanate 50 cycle??

 

[thundergod]

lol, the OGARRRR! was so mad he came back 8 minutes later and thought "this big humungus 193kg kid just got the best of me, damn hes good, lets see if I can insult him some more." I know!, I'll call him puny, little, and tiny. that'll serve him RIGHT!" haha and crybaby.com? I guess thats funny... Ha................ha........ha. do something geezer. you take SD because Viagra can't get you up. sorry to the board, im simply entertaining.

I only took 8 minutes to filter my thoughts and make them more presentable to mixed audiences. We have good people on these boards, folks with morals, and christian-upbringing! I'm no longer engaging you in mindless cruelties and discrimination. I really DO wish you all the best luck in all of your future endeavors! Honestly. Good day Friend!!:clap2:

 

[TheeBC]

firend! you sir are a FOE! HAHAHAHA and what does religion have to do with anything? chill out on the preaching oh mighty one.

 

[thundergod]

firend! you sir are a FOE! HAHAHAHA and what does religion have to do with anything? chill out on the preaching oh mighty one.

Yeah, everyone likes freedom of speech, until some poor schmuck decides to use it! I am NOT your foe dude. You wouldn't want a vengeful Thundergod angry with you:hammer:! I'm not preaching, just trying to make some sense to a person who doesn't seem to have any! I am NOT arguing with you anymore.You are simply not worthy of further retaliation This thread has been ruined by yours and diamonite's unprovoked insults to me. MODS close this thread out for the sake of all sane people!!

 

[LSU Gladiator]

What about running epi and puling SD on the work out days?

I'm thinking about running EPI/SD like this:

Week 1
W/O days SD @ 10mg epi @ 10-20mg
Off days epi @ 10-20mg

Wk 2-4
W/O days SD @ 10mg epi @ 20-30mg
Off days epi @ 20-30mg

I posted the epi in ranges, because I don't know how I'll respond but I'm all about the lowest effective dose. I would only use SD on W/O days, and accordingly I would only be using it before my workout (isn't that the most important time to have a PH?) at 10 mg. Liver + cycle support + PCT implied

Bizzump.

 

[Nightwanderer]

While I respect your opinion, at 44 years of age, I've probably run more cycles than you've had peices of a$$ my friend!! :rasp:These dosages are NOT outrageous for a 6'3 and 265 lb. BULL like myself! If you're not adventurous, you'll never really find your potential for growth. Be a little more open-minded and don't simply be a playback machine for all the sh*t you've heard and read, but don't know about! Do some more searching dude!!:gotsearch

You respect his opinion and then go on to say 'don't simply be a playback machine for all the sh*t you've heard and read, but don't know about! Do some more searching dude!!'? odd, not how I thought someone might demonstrate respect. A person can search all they want, in my searching I've found that SD and its clones tend to be a heavy burden when it comes to side effects you can feel. Both SD and Epi are methylated, and the majority of info, as well as advice from fellow AM users I've seen suggest 2 methyls is generally a very bad idea for the liver.
You say you have a lot of experience with these and I have no reason to doubt that, but anyone who tells someone who's barely into their mid-20's to just 'go ahead and crank up the doses' just seems a bit cavalier. I'm not trying to verbally attack you or anything like that, it's just that the more I educate myself and try to involve myself in this facet of the bodybuilding community, the more I see how a lot of younger people tend to either overlook or outright ignore risks and it worries me, that's all. 'Adventurous', is great, but there's often a fine line between the adventurous and the foolhardy.

Me personally, if I were taking 50+ mg of mixed methylated compounds, I'd be sure to be taking plenty of liver support, that's for sure, and some cholesterol control too.

 

[TheeBC]

Nightwanderer. Well put, now im off to party...soon as my clothes finish drying that is. I've done 4 stand alones, and im curious as to the double kick I might receive if I stack them and of course I am receiving personal help from someone with far more experience then just PH's but AAS, hcg, hgh,insulin, etc. and going to get my blood work done since I just GOT INSURANCE!!!!!!!!!!! woohoo 20 years old...and got it back after 2 years. I definitely do not recommend 2 methyl to anyone, im willing to try it just cause...I've never smoked a grit, or really done any of the gateway drugs or anything in relation unless we count soda or steroids as them...I think you benefit from roids therefore, I dont think of them as a drug. Im using them to alter my physical appearance rather then get hyped up and become a low life. Crystal meth doesn't build confidence, TESTOSTERONE DOES, so slide me that needle.(notsaying i have low confidence but you get my analogy haha) have a great night fellas and thundergod, keep it gay, I mean, real. sorry

 

[thundergod]

become a low life. notsaying i have low confidence but you get my analogy haha) have a great night fellas and thundergod, keep it gay, I mean, real. sorry

That's O.K. TheeBC-- You can say whatever you want to about me. You'll NEVER be as big or as strong as me!! Have a nice small life!!:rofl:

 

[TheeBC]

who laughs at their own jokes? Amuse yourself much? Try getting an erection, that'll keep you busy for weeks on end. you also forgot, as ugly too, Imcurious, someone like you with so much hair, where is it on your head? Is that beard you have a butthole scrubber? you clean up what your wife misses? If I had your stature, i'd be required to marry Sasquatch. I like being 6'1 with my 5'2 girlfriend, you workout just so you can power lift her ass on to your crotch for a good time. How many rolls does your wife have? and I mean on the back of her neck? tres?

 

[thundergod]

who laughs at their own jokes? Amuse yourself much? Try getting an erection, that'll keep you busy for weeks on end. you also forgot, as ugly too, Imcurious, someone like you with so much hair, where is it on your head? Is that beard you have a butthole scrubber? you clean up what your wife misses? If I had your stature, i'd be required to marry Sasquatch. I like being 6'1 with my 5'2 girlfriend, you workout just so you can power lift her ass on to your crotch for a good time. How many rolls does your wife have? and I mean on the back of her neck? tres?

I told you "little man", I'm through playing with little tikes like you. This is all you do:rant: Now, please do the rest of the world a favor, and GROW UP!!!

 

[pistonpump]

that was a very entertaining read......

 

[thundergod]

that was a very entertaining read......

Yeah, I'm just sorry for IronMale who had a legitimate cycle question, and wound up with his thread ruined by a couple of under-sized juveniles!!:icon_lol: I will never engage spoiled youngsters in mindless verbatim again on this board!! EasyEJL gave IronMale the best advice. Do the epi for the first 3 weeks (as it is weaker than super) and then the super-drol for the final 3 weeks. My thought was that's a pretty long cycle. 6 weeks and 2 methyls. I would just advise him to combine the 2 @ 20 mg. each for a short 3-weeker!:thumbsup:

 

[TheeBC]

hahaha, you still respond, this is great! thank "big bull" LOL