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when on SD, PP, or anyother steroid. if u only did like a 2 week mini cycle and saw good results and called it quits. Would that not be easier on your body? ( liver, HPTA, cholestrol. etc)
Certainly it would be easier on your body, but I would imagine that it would be difficult to retain the gains for a 2 week cycle though.when on SD, PP, or anyother steroid. if u only did like a 2 week mini cycle and saw good results and called it quits. Would that not be easier on your body? ( liver, HPTA, cholestrol. etc)
it would be a pain to keep gains cause most likely there werent any real gains made. mostly just water weight and increased glycogen retention in the muscles, there just isnt enough time for you to grow enough in two weeks to make it a succesful cycle, plus your pretty much allready shut down and put a marginal dent in you liver that you might as well run the extra week or 2 and reap the real benifits from the supp (wich most especially with these supps see the most improvement week 3 and 4), no point in wasting it and not getting anything.I dont know how you can NOT see results after 2 weeks though. If you eat your ass off its possible t odo a pound a day in the second week.
Im also very curious also with the mini cycle thing. Why would it be harder to retain the gains??? I mean, You'd still have your nat test, so shutdown wouldnt kill your gains after. If you did PCT for 2 weeks after that would be "like" going for 4 weeks.
Granted, you wouldnt put on 30 pounds. If you could gain 6-7 lbs in 2 weeks, and keep 4-5, then it seems worth it.
(Although, a 4 weeker would yeild around 15,.. and you might keep 10, but PCT is more of a bitch
Exacty.it would be a pain to keep gains cause most likely there werent any real gains made. mostly just water weight and increased glycogen retention in the muscles, there just isnt enough time for you to grow enough in two weeks to make it a succesful cycle, plus your pretty much allready shut down and put a marginal dent in you liver that you might as well run the extra week or 2 and reap the real benifits from the supp (wich most especially with these supps see the most improvement week 3 and 4), no point in wasting it and not getting anything.
For those that said a 2 week cycle is not the best route, I agree. During those 2 weeks most of your weight gain will come from stored glycogen and water. Make it a solid 3-4 week cycle (depending on personal history) and do it right. Followed by a solid PCT, my favs are a Nolva, RXT and Retain along with my supporting supps. This will give your "true muscle gains" a chance to develop and maintain.when on SD, PP, or anyother steroid. if u only did like a 2 week mini cycle and saw good results and called it quits. Would that not be easier on your body? ( liver, HPTA, cholestrol. etc)
A pound of what? You cannot possibly mean LBM.I dont know how you can NOT see results after 2 weeks though. If you eat your ass off its possible to do a pound a day in the second week.
Good post.A pound of what? You cannot possibly mean LBM.
It is virtually impossible for an adult to synthesize > 2.5lb of LBM in a week. I think that is only possible for infants, but they require ~108kcals/kg to do it.
IMO from my personal experience, I believe you need at least 3 weeks of SD. Weight comes on quick but it is most likely related to additional glycogen, water storage. Don't be fooled by people stating that it has a diuretic effect. For every gram of glycogen 3 grams of water is needed. This is not even considering total serum volume increase.
I've done 2 SD cycles, both 3 weeks (25 days). I taper the dose down finishing with 10mg/day for the final. Something like this:
Night before: 10mg
Days 2-4: 30mg SD
Days 5-11: 20mg SD
Days 12-18: 20mg SD
Days 19-25: 10 mg SD
I always felt the SD for almost an entire week after last dose.
I don't overeat just ~300 above maintenance. I have milder gains than most but they stay with me. I have also not felt shutdown on SD alone.
Remember, I don't know **** anyway.
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