Test E cycle help! Total test >3000ng/mL, LSH and FSH undetectable

  1. Test E cycle help! Total test >3000ng/mL, LSH and FSH undetectable


    Hi guys,

    Need a bit of help here. Cycled methyl PH like DMZ and Epi and SDrol for past two years, blood work would be fine - other than liver values being elevated in ALT/AST, but not super high managed with TUDCA and NAC... But still elevated. And prohormones would also supress my test until 4-6 weeks after and would be normal range again.

    I was worried about long term liver stress from the repeated methyl PH cycles, but I may have jumped from frying pan into frier here.

    For past two months I stopped all methyl PH and decided to just do Test Enthanate first time.

    300mg per 1cc twice a week, 600mg total weekly. CEL cycle support on hand. Feel great, kept weight off last PH cycle. Until this week I go get blood work at Kaiser. Normally from prohormone Test supression a get a bad boy note from doc and sometimes LSH and FSH are a bit off...

    The plan partially worked, my liver and lipids and other blood makers have improved getting away from methyl PH... It seems my Test E is super potent. Total Test level is >3000ng/dL (typo in title of post)! LSH and FSH are undetectable now! Wow and yikes!

    I am also running AI and SERM to combat some gyno sides...

    Doc wants me back in lab to check total red blood count and volume, my ears started pounding earlier this past week sometimes, do I need to donate blood too? Stroke risk much?

    Clearly I should use less per week, 300mg, not 600mg. Maybe just stick to PH and SARMs. Felt great on Test though, but was not expecting the blood results to be that high. The dosing is a common recommended cycle. My first go with Test E.

    Any thoughts, does anyone else with a simple Test E and AI cycle get that high total test and LSH and FSH being supressed?

    Thanks!


  2. Injecting test will drop your lsh and fsh to zero, this is a normal reaction. I would cut your test dose in half to start.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by jmero2 View Post
    Injecting test will drop your lsh and fsh to zero, this is a normal reaction. I would cut your test dose in half to start.
    Should I keep on SERM and AI for combat gyno sides, drop test to half dose 300mg weekly, and perhaps introduce RAD-140 with lower dose test?

    I assume too much test weekly and strong suicide AI are what's making the Total Test values sky high?

    Besides CEL cycle support, TUDCA, and I'll get hemocrit levels tomorrow, to see if I need to donate blood... What else?

  4. I would drop the serm and save it for pct, not sure what your taking for an ai. I'm not experienced with rad 140 so I can't comment.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by jmero2 View Post
    I would drop the serm and save it for pct, not sure what your taking for an ai. I'm not experienced with rad 140 so I can't comment.
    Exemestane / Aromaisin is the AI. Some folks were combining Novla and Exemestane for fighting some gyno.

    But makes sense AI on cycle, SERM for PCT.

    Rad-140 is a suggestion to bridge to, if I need to give the Test E a break. Will get hemocrit levels tomorrow...
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  6. Test E cycle help! Total test >3000ng/mL, LSH and FSH undetectable


    Quote Originally Posted by PoSiTiVeFLoW View Post
    600 mg testosterone per week would definitely yield a total testosterone level greater than 3000. LH and FSH are near zero for anyone taking exogenous testosterone. Hematocrit approaching 53% means blood donation is warranted.
    May I suggest using this app to track your bloodwork tests:
    myBloodTracker for IPhone and IPad
    https://appsto.re/us/vvMndb.i

  7. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    600 mg testosterone per week would definitely yield a total testosterone level greater than 3000. LH and FSH are near zero for anyone taking exogenous testosterone. Hematocrit approaching 53% means blood donation is warranted.
    Thank you good sir, I should probably employ a TRT specialist, my Kaiser primary doc is cool, but I am probably his first enhanced athlete getting regular blood work.

  8. So were you running the SERM the entire cycle or just for a short period to combat the gyno?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Cscott622 View Post
    So were you running the SERM the entire cycle or just for a short period to combat the gyno?
    Just recently added, cause gyno sides started to flare up after 1-1.5 months.

  10. I guess I don't need to donate blood, did CBC this AM and hemocrit and other levels were all in range... Doc said CBC results are good. Just going to half the dose of Test E to 300mg weekly add Rad-140.

    I want to see if I can get it at 1000-1500ng/dL, as 3000ng/dL is crazy high. Guess my Test E is legit though.

    Will get repeat test monthly. Primary care doctor def knows what this is (a high dose test), advise me to stop... But seems CEL cycle support seems to keep all else in balance.

    So it seems plan is working, avoid too much methyl PH and use real test to save liver stress.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by PoSiTiVeFLoW View Post
    I guess I don't need to donate blood, did CBC this AM and hemocrit and other levels were all in range... Doc said CBC results are good. Just going to half the dose of Test E to 300mg weekly add Rad-140.

    I want to see if I can get it at 1000-1500ng/dL, as 3000ng/dL is crazy high. Guess my Test E is legit though.

    Will get repeat test monthly. Primary care doctor def knows what this is (a high dose test), advise me to stop... But seems CEL cycle support seems to keep all else in balance.

    So it seems plan is working, avoid too much methyl PH and use real test to save liver stress.
    Now i am just mixing 150mg Test E and 150mg EQ, twice per week, for 300mg+300mg total for Test+EQ weekly. Hope that should bring my total Test levels down and still provide a nice finish what was a first Test E blast cycle. More bloodwork to get.

    Also, Sitting at 220lbs and still 15% BF. But due to cold and work stress, etc training is off and as Tony from EA would say 'diet starts tomorrow'! Lulz.

    Looking forward to reduce IM pin frequency for a bit and running MA Research RAD-140 oral liquid, here in the near future - with just Test 200-300mg base. See if I can lean up and keep gains for my research and all.

    New research log to come.
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