Dbol TREN NPP TEST CYCLE HELP NEEDED W CYCLE LAYOUT

[Scottyhash74]

Hello,
I'm new this site and this my 1st post. But not new AAS and cycling.
Current stats:
Age 43
Weight 197
BF% 16+

Goals for this cycle are to bulk as much as possible for 8-12wks. Afterwards run my normal 200mg TRT dose and possibly an ECA stack or clen and lean out.
Cycle layout??
What i have on hand.
Test C 3bottles
Test prop 2 bottles
NPP 2 bottles 150mgs.
Tren ace 2 bottles
Letro and Arimidex

Cycle Layout #1
Weeks 1-12 Test C 500mgs.
Wk 1-4 Prop 300mgs wk.
Dbol 50mgs 1-5
NPP wk 1-4 800mgs
Tren ace 5-8 500mgs
Trt 200-250 after wk 12

Cycle Layout #2
Test C 1-12 500
Prop 1-4 300 wk
Dbol 50 wks 1-5
NPP 1-7 450mgs
Tren ace 1-7 300mgs

I'm not sure if running higher mgs for a shorter duration will yield better results. Or extending the cycle and alternating compounds will reep even better results. Considering gains usually always stall when Myostatin over rides roughly by week 8.
Remembering my over all goals are to put on as much mass as possible while staying fairly lean.
All insight and suggestions are appreciated.
Thanks Guys!!!
Btw since Tren is known to reduce T3 levels would it be a reasonably good idea to cycle 25-50mcgs throughout?

 

[nosnmiveins]

I like cycle #1, but I would change ONE thing. I would save the prop to use WITH your TRT. Basically it would extend you cycle 4 weeks before going back to just TRT

 

[Scottyhash74]

Thanks for the interest. So i could use the prop wks 1-4 at 300mgs and then use my 2nd bottle as you mentioned b4 resuming TRT. Sounds interesting.

 

[DTA]

You want to bulk at 16%+?

 

[Scottyhash74]

Summers a ways off still. Thought cycle and diet alone would shed atleast 3% alone.
I've been completely off TRT dosage for 4+ months w/o any Trt due to a short jail bid for cultivation. Once back in the game i can lean out again by summertime.
Does suck however bulking while carrying this xtra weight.
I've got to keep this a lean bulk as much as possible. I'm going to run 500 calories over maintenance and modify as needed.
What would you suggest if you were in my shoes?
Thanks

 

[nosnmiveins]

Thanks for the interest. So i could use the prop wks 1-4 at 300mgs and then use my 2nd bottle as you mentioned b4 resuming TRT. Sounds interesting.

No i meant this:

weeks 1-12
Test c
npp
tren
dbol

weeks 13-16
TRT
test prop

17-?
TRT

 

[DTA]

I'm assuming you've ran tren and npp together without issues. I'd probably go with the second choice.

 

[chidz]

Hello,
I'm new this site and this my 1st post. But not new AAS and cycling.
Current stats:
Age 43
Weight 197
BF% 16+

Goals for this cycle are to bulk as much as possible for 8-12wks. Afterwards run my normal 200mg TRT dose and possibly an ECA stack or clen and lean out.
Cycle layout??
What i have on hand.
Test C 3bottles
Test prop 2 bottles
NPP 2 bottles 150mgs.
Tren ace 2 bottles
Letro and Arimidex

Cycle Layout #1
Weeks 1-12 Test C 500mgs.
Wk 1-4 Prop 300mgs wk.
Dbol 50mgs 1-5
NPP wk 1-4 800mgs
Tren ace 5-8 500mgs
Trt 200-250 after wk 12

Cycle Layout #2
Test C 1-12 500
Prop 1-4 300 wk
Dbol 50 wks 1-5
NPP 1-7 450mgs
Tren ace 1-7 300mgs

I'm not sure if running higher mgs for a shorter duration will yield better results. Or extending the cycle and alternating compounds will reep even better results. Considering gains usually always stall when Myostatin over rides roughly by week 8.
Remembering my over all goals are to put on as much mass as possible while staying fairly lean.
All insight and suggestions are appreciated.
Thanks Guys!!!
Btw since Tren is known to reduce T3 levels would it be a reasonably good idea to cycle 25-50mcgs throughout?

If your looking to stay lean swap the dbol for the Anadrol

 

[smith_69]

No i meant this:

weeks 1-12
Test c
npp
tren
dbol

weeks 13-16
TRT
test prop

17-?
TRT

like what you have here but am i missing something on running both tests at the same time? i guess the logic is the ester length but isnt that over kill- from his message not yours

 

[nosnmiveins]

Overkill as in too much for a cycle? No way. Plus this isn't his first rodeo