Havoc and dbol stack

[Bad Company]

I'm thinking of running havoc first then going to dbol. Should I just do 2 separate cycles or would this stack be ok?

 

[gapaulin]

I think it sounds fun lol. I just started my havoc cycle Thursday. How much Havoc are you going to run? Last time I ran it I started getting some mad water retention at the higher mg... might have just been crappy diet.

 

[Bad Company]

I got two bottles of havoc and plenty of dbol

 

[Airborne42]

Do you have an AI? Dbol is gonna swell you up like a puffer fish. Look all kinds of bloated

 

[Bad Company]

Yes I loaded up on AIs just for that reason. You think the gains will be good ive never run these two together

 

[Airborne42]

Dbol and havoc both yield good awesome gains... Would I ever stack them... No is rather use dbol as a kicker to test... But sd even more so

 

[howwedo107]

Dbol and havoc both yield good awesome gains... Would I ever stack them... No is rather use dbol as a kicker to test... But sd even more so

What gives bigger results? Dbol or sd? And which is less harsh on the liver?

 

[Airborne42]

Imho never ran dbol but know peeps that have. I guess they are compatible in ways but I'd say sd would do more and I definitely think its harsher than dbol. There's a euphoric feeling to dbol

 

[Bad Company]

So I should run the havoc then kick the dbol to test? I'm considering just running sd but Idk if I should bc of the sides. What do y'all think?

 

[Airborne42]

Age and stats? Cycle history

 

[Bad Company]

25 6'4 240 lbs 10%bf. hdrol, deca, test300, dbol. I think that's all of em

 

[Airborne42]

So u have obviously done cycles lol and seem in good shape. Is give it a run. Proper supports in order and a good pct and **** ill help u set up everything.

 

[Bad Company]

Yea i may have run one or two lol. Which one would you run? The stack or SD alone? My goal weight is 285-300 lbs but that's over the next 2-3 years.

My supports are
RYR-1200mg
Milk thistle-1200mg
Saw palmetto-500mg
Fish oil-1200mg
CoQ10
Orange triad

PCT
Nolva- 20/20/10/10
Erase pro
DAA
And all supports

 

[Airborne42]

On pct you wanna run nolva 40/20/20/10 for sd and on cycle you want to use liv52 instead of milk thistle. Milk thistle inhibits gains for sd. Done right... My last cycle I ran sd for a month and upper 25 pounds. I have kept it all. I'm 247 at 6 ft. My goal is same as yours lol

 

[Bad Company]

So I should run liv52. I knew it.. My buddy said no its not that good and inhibits gains lol. I like it more than thistle anyways. Do you think I should go the SD route or run dbol? How were your sides on SD?

 

[Airborne42]

Go SD bro. **** is bomb just run like 10/20/20/30. The only side I had was lethargy which I killed with carbs. Sd is a carb monster

 

[Bad Company]

I'll try it. I've just heard its put ppl in the hospital and given them jaundice and made their skin itch. They probably didn't run supports though.

 

[Airborne42]

If u do it right you should be fine. I had no probs at all. If you need help setting it up I'm here.

 

[Bad Company]

Ok. How long should I run it for 4 weeks? What is the max mg I should run?

 

[Airborne42]

A lot of people do just 3 because of lethargy and back pumps but just plan 3 and if you feel good continue to 4. I'd do like 10/20/20/30

 

[Bad Company]

Ight. I may get some taurine just incase of bp. I'll try to keep my diet clean. How long of nolva should I run? 40/20/20/10 of nolva?

 

[Airborne42]

By bp I'm hoping you mean back pumps lol sorry umm ya that nolva looks solid... Daa 3g all way 3 pct with erase like 1/2/3/3/2/1... Is how I run it and I'm holding so shouldn't be wrong at all. Most people start erase on we 2 or 3. I say **** that lol

 

[Bad Company]

Yea bp is back pumps lol. I'll let you know how it goes

 

[Airborne42]

I took it as blood pressure X-D cut me some slack I have been working all night

 

[Bad Company]

You think I should cut first or just roll straight into SD in two weeks

 

[Airborne42]

What's your Bf%

 

[Airborne42]

**** 10% your good to go brother. Load up on hawthorne berry and cycle supports 2 weeks before

 

[Bad Company]

On my pct should I run the nolva Monday, Wednesday, Friday since it has a long half life? Or run it everyday?

 

[Airborne42]

Run every day at 40/20/20/10...

 

[Bad Company]

I'll let you know if I have any probs

 

[Airborne42]

Word bro