Well, in about 12 days I'll be starting my first real cycle so I'll go ahead and start the thread, besides I'm more anxious than bigpetefox when he's downloading internet porn. :think:
This is what I have on hand and plenty of it:
Test enan 250
Nandrolone (deca) 300
Dbol 50
I'm figuring a breakdown like this
Weeks 1-12 Test enan 500mg
Weeks 1-12 Deca 450mg
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 50mg and maybe weeks 10-14 also
My goals are to gain as much mass as humanly possible, but realistically, I'm hoping for 15 keepable pounds. PCT will be the usual clomid and nolva deal, starting 2 weeks after last inject. I know HCG is preferred for longer cycles but I'd like to have some idea of how these things feel before I add more **** to the mix.
My stats:
Weight: 251
Height: 6'1"
Bf% : 14%
Arms: 19"
Chest: 49" at nipple level
Waist: 39"
Thighs: 29"
Calves: 16.5"
Diet:
Protein: 500grams
Carbs: 500 grams
Fats: 150 grams
But truth be told, I'm going to eat everything in sight, not really focusing on total calories, just protein intake. The figures above are a guesstimate.
I know most people suggest a test only cycle for the first but my joints are fucked up as they are and I can't take another torn pec so I'm relying on safety and deca to get me through this.
Questions that I have for you all:
1) Letro or Adex for bloat? Which one and why? I won't use either unless I have to but I will have them on hand to avoid that bloated look that I assuredly don't want.
2) When using letro or adex, I also use low dose nolva, correct?
3) Is the second run of dbol at the end of cycle a good idea, will it encourage a smoother transition into PCT?
Suggestions/opinions are welcome and encouraged. Thanks.
This is what I have on hand and plenty of it:
Test enan 250
Nandrolone (deca) 300
Dbol 50
I'm figuring a breakdown like this
Weeks 1-12 Test enan 500mg
Weeks 1-12 Deca 450mg
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 50mg and maybe weeks 10-14 also
My goals are to gain as much mass as humanly possible, but realistically, I'm hoping for 15 keepable pounds. PCT will be the usual clomid and nolva deal, starting 2 weeks after last inject. I know HCG is preferred for longer cycles but I'd like to have some idea of how these things feel before I add more **** to the mix.
My stats:
Weight: 251
Height: 6'1"
Bf% : 14%
Arms: 19"
Chest: 49" at nipple level
Waist: 39"
Thighs: 29"
Calves: 16.5"
Diet:
Protein: 500grams
Carbs: 500 grams
Fats: 150 grams
But truth be told, I'm going to eat everything in sight, not really focusing on total calories, just protein intake. The figures above are a guesstimate.
I know most people suggest a test only cycle for the first but my joints are fucked up as they are and I can't take another torn pec so I'm relying on safety and deca to get me through this.
Questions that I have for you all:
1) Letro or Adex for bloat? Which one and why? I won't use either unless I have to but I will have them on hand to avoid that bloated look that I assuredly don't want.
2) When using letro or adex, I also use low dose nolva, correct?
3) Is the second run of dbol at the end of cycle a good idea, will it encourage a smoother transition into PCT?
Suggestions/opinions are welcome and encouraged. Thanks.
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