Time off between cycles?

[JerseyDrew77]

Just wondering what the rule of thumb is for cycles. Is it not safe to start a second cycle right after your pct from the first cycle or is it just bro-ology? I'm coming off a H-drol stacked with Stano-drol cycle and am about to start my pct and was going to do a D-zine stacked with M-lmg for my next cycle.

 

[2k1s]

time on + pct = time off. some people cycle immediately after pct ends.

 

[JerseyDrew77]

So then it's really just user dependent? Are there or could there be any real side effects or long term effects from doing back to back cycles?

 

[2k1s]

no. there are the impatient and the cautious. on + pct = time off is the sane way of cycling.

 

[RickRock13]

So then it's really just user dependent? Are there or could there be any real side effects or long term effects from doing back to back cycles?

Doing back to back cycles has a lot of potential for doing long lasting harm to your body. Hormone levels, lipids, liver enzymes are all things that can be out of whack for weeks after PCT has finished. The only real answer to when is safe to cycle again is to get bloodwork that shows everything I mentioned at normal levels

 

[JerseyDrew77]

True. But couldn't all that be corrected with supporting supps during cycle and on the second pct?

 

[ambulldog]

no. there are the impatient and the cautious. on + pct = time off is the sane way of cycling.

that is the norm but is also bro-science. only bw will tell you when you are recovered and ready for your next cycle

 

[RickRock13]

True. But couldn't all that be corrected with supporting supps during cycle and on the second pct?

While those supports help on cycle and through PCT, they do not make you ok after PCT. Your liver enzymes will more than likely be skewed for a while after cycle, and test levels, estrogen levels, and lipids can take a while too. It all comes down to bloodwork, and that's the correct and only answer

 

[JerseyDrew77]

I'll see about the medics out here to do some blood work a week after my pct is finished from my first cycle and then I will go from there.

 

[james122]

Doing back to back cycles has a lot of potential for doing long lasting harm to your body. Hormone levels, lipids, liver enzymes are all things that can be out of whack for weeks after PCT has finished. The only real answer to when is safe to cycle again is to get bloodwork that shows everything I mentioned at normal levels

The reason I know this is true is become I am the example of being careless, cycle/pct/cycle my natural test was permanaly impaired

 

[JerseyDrew77]

The reason I know this is true is become I am the example of being careless, cycle/pct/cycle my natural test was permanaly impaired

So now you have to do TRT for the rest of your life? Or overtime, your body will eventually produce it's own natural test and get back to normal.

 

[james122]

So now you have to do TRT for the rest of your life? Or overtime, your body will eventually produce it's own natural test and get back to normal.

I have been on transdermal trt for over a year, I still produce a very low amount of test, with the hrt im sittng at 500-600 wich is still low, eventually(soon I hope) I will move to injections and yes its forever. but The point I was stressing to you bud was, I had impaired test production for YEARS but never knew it because I never got blood work, the steroids and ph I took never caused side effects for me so i alwasy figured I was bouncing back to normal, till the lethargy and ed became a real issue, I was forced to go see whats up, thats what was up, it had been a year in a half since my last cycle thats plenty of time, my low score was my new normal- Just be safe homeboy, thats all I am saying. I still got off easy, I never crashed or grew boobs or wanted to die, But i did it wrong and now Im here.

 

[GLHF]

True. But couldn't all that be corrected with supporting supps during cycle and on the second pct?

you CANT run back to back cycles and think some milk thistle will fix you up.
take atleast some time off, run some nolva...mayb bridge into a cycle with 20mg dbol...but dnt just straight up finish test/tren for 10 weeks, 11th week start test/deca for another 10weeks.

that is the norm but is also bro-science. only bw will tell you when you are recovered and ready for your next cycle

this right here. support supplements help you keep bp and liver enzymes in check.

 

[ambulldog]

I have been on transdermal trt for over a year, I still produce a very low amount of test, with the hrt im sittng at 500-600 wich is still low, eventually(soon I hope) I will move to injections and yes its forever. but The point I was stressing to you bud was, I had impaired test production for YEARS but never knew it because I never got blood work, the steroids and ph I took never caused side effects for me so i alwasy figured I was bouncing back to normal, till the lethargy and ed became a real issue, I was forced to go see whats up, thats what was up, it had been a year in a half since my last cycle thats plenty of time, my low score was my new normal- Just be safe homeboy, thats all I am saying. I still got off easy, I never crashed or grew boobs or wanted to die, But i did it wrong and now Im here.

its amazing to me that young men on here think trt is so glamorous. pinning a cycle is fantastic. pinning all the time because you have to just to be "normal" is not all its cracked up to be. dont get me wrong its the best thing you can do when needed but people that want it are outta their minds