Is this combo even a good idea?
Also, can I recover from the shutdown without HCG for a 6 week cycle and retain a decent amount of my gains? This will be my last cycle for a long time.
I have no history of gyno, but what about the gyno risk for some of the combos below? I can use letro .25mg e2-3 days and probably prevent that if it is warranted on cycle. I tried with just 1-T Tren alone and that dose was too much-my joints felt like they were disintegrating.
If this combo sucks, what would you all suggest instead if my goal is mostly quality mass that is mostly sustainable? Due to some joint problems, I am not looking for huge strength gains; would like to avoid joint injuries, and my workouts aren't going to be too over the top consequently. I have plenty of non-HCG ancillaries (letro, nolva, clomid). I also have a cornucopia of orals if anyone thinks a different substitution makes more sense or is a terrible item to combine with a proposed cycle below (D-Zine, H-Drol, M-Drol, EQ-Plex, P-Plex, Demethyl Stanozol, Furazadrol, P-Mag, LMG/Sci-Fit M13). Of course, I don't want to overtax my liver either, hence the 1T-Tren and maybe EQ-Plex.
I've ran 1-T Tren before for 6 weeks with good results and yes the shutdown was/is significant.
I was thinking about running one of the following using 1-T Tren as the base for all of them:
Weeks 1-6:
(1) 1-T Tren + 1,200mg/day of EQ-Plex (need the appetite boost on-cycle and maybe a quality pound or two of gains)
(2) 1-T Tren + 1.2g/day EQ-Plex + 10/20/20 (maybe a 4th week) P-Plex
(3) 1-T Tren + 1.2g/day EQ-Plex + 10/20/30 (maybe a 4th week) E-Stane
(4) 1-T Tren solo
OCT:
CoQ10 front loaded and through PCT
Hawthorne Berries " " " "
Liv.52 " " " "
UDCA (if using a methyl, for those weeks on a methyl)
All the usual other crap (multis, fish and flax oil, glutamine, BCAAs, SuperCissus RX powder, Glucosamine/etc)
Toco 8 (Weeks 1-6)
Sustain Alpha (Weeks 1-6)
PCT
Weeks 7-10:
TRS Stack (Toco 8, EndoAmp Max, Sustain)-Weeks 7-10
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Clomid 50/50
Continuation of some of the OCT stuff above
So I asked a lot of questions:deal:. What are your thoughts on the cycle choices and the PCT sufficiency/insufficient especially?
Thanks
Also, can I recover from the shutdown without HCG for a 6 week cycle and retain a decent amount of my gains? This will be my last cycle for a long time.
I have no history of gyno, but what about the gyno risk for some of the combos below? I can use letro .25mg e2-3 days and probably prevent that if it is warranted on cycle. I tried with just 1-T Tren alone and that dose was too much-my joints felt like they were disintegrating.
If this combo sucks, what would you all suggest instead if my goal is mostly quality mass that is mostly sustainable? Due to some joint problems, I am not looking for huge strength gains; would like to avoid joint injuries, and my workouts aren't going to be too over the top consequently. I have plenty of non-HCG ancillaries (letro, nolva, clomid). I also have a cornucopia of orals if anyone thinks a different substitution makes more sense or is a terrible item to combine with a proposed cycle below (D-Zine, H-Drol, M-Drol, EQ-Plex, P-Plex, Demethyl Stanozol, Furazadrol, P-Mag, LMG/Sci-Fit M13). Of course, I don't want to overtax my liver either, hence the 1T-Tren and maybe EQ-Plex.
I've ran 1-T Tren before for 6 weeks with good results and yes the shutdown was/is significant.
I was thinking about running one of the following using 1-T Tren as the base for all of them:
Weeks 1-6:
(1) 1-T Tren + 1,200mg/day of EQ-Plex (need the appetite boost on-cycle and maybe a quality pound or two of gains)
(2) 1-T Tren + 1.2g/day EQ-Plex + 10/20/20 (maybe a 4th week) P-Plex
(3) 1-T Tren + 1.2g/day EQ-Plex + 10/20/30 (maybe a 4th week) E-Stane
(4) 1-T Tren solo
OCT:
CoQ10 front loaded and through PCT
Hawthorne Berries " " " "
Liv.52 " " " "
UDCA (if using a methyl, for those weeks on a methyl)
All the usual other crap (multis, fish and flax oil, glutamine, BCAAs, SuperCissus RX powder, Glucosamine/etc)
Toco 8 (Weeks 1-6)
Sustain Alpha (Weeks 1-6)
PCT
Weeks 7-10:
TRS Stack (Toco 8, EndoAmp Max, Sustain)-Weeks 7-10
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Clomid 50/50
Continuation of some of the OCT stuff above
So I asked a lot of questions:deal:. What are your thoughts on the cycle choices and the PCT sufficiency/insufficient especially?
Thanks