42 day Spawn Log summary

[daleden]

This is a reprint of 3 weeks ago, but done to hope a person can see what was done, to help me get what i got in this 42 days, with 6 days to go.

Reprint starts now:
Reprint for critic and one's wanting to see a positive spawn Log summary

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Sorry for the sarcasim, but it has been critic's that question why the tren-epic combo work so well. My goal was to just try and relay what i stuck to day by day for the next person to get the best results they can. Off subject, my workout partner also gain 20 lbs.
i will now only reprint what i have written for the last 3 weeks, and my updates. i still have 6 days remain on this pulse.


Quote:
Originally Posted by daleden
By chance if anyone like to hear about the results of how this work on me, im going to get straight to the point.
Im taking epi-tren by bosc. Im on day 28 with 2 weeks left to go, I am pulsing, MWF I also take one pill on sunday and tuesday night at 11 pm for my 6am workout.
my co-supplements are perfect cycle 5 days a week, creatine on workout days and once a day on off days, dhea and vandyal sulfate on off days, protien drink twice a day with olive oil vs. flaxseed oil, just my money saving tech.
i have my pct ready when done, i have serm if need be, if no weird sides, i will go will a otc pct. creatine and no,

Being im 28 days in i am able to give most numbers now, i base my gains off weigh gains, and my monday bench day, and fri bench day, and my deadlift. all other movements are just as equal in strength gains, i only judge myself off these three.
Side note: I have done spawn before and was able to see my strenght go sky high, but was not able to truly gauage it, so this is why i choose to give my strength gains

age 42
Bodyfat 16% and i wont tested it again until im done
Start weight: 194 - day 28 weigh 212 1/4 thats 18 pounds and still 13 days to go.

Start weight on bench 275x10x3 sets day 28 bench 330x10x3 sets thats 55 pounds of 30 reps, not just one rep and im trying 340 or 345 on monday next week.

Second bench day 315x4x3 sets day 25 bench 370x4x3 sets thats 55 pounds and i still have friday for this week.

I have 3 more bench days left in this cycle and workout program, i will then cut my reps and test my doubles and signals.

Here's the days when i weight
day 7 up 8 pounds
day 14 up 3 pounds 11 total
day 21 up 4 pounds 15 total
day 28 up 3 pounds 18 total
day 35 to 1 1/2 lbs. down
day 42 to 5 lbs. up NEW weight 216 3/4 22 3/4 gain from day one
I weigh myself on judging should i step up food on thurdays to know should i pick up extra calories on my olive oil or im i able to not eat extra if i dont have to.

Agaim i am pulsing, giving me the option to extend this past 4 weeks, i have only had two sides, i had a blood presure headache and step my perfect cycle in, no more headache, three days of back pain, added banana's and gone,
I have used proho before, and my body seem to work well with this, the last time i used, i immediately went into my lean down and was not able to really judge what i lost or kept, now that its fall, i dont have to lean down until march, so i will have action to go one more time til then.
hope i shade some good light on this mix

Just and update. As of my second weigh day thursday im up another 1 and a half pounds, making it 213 3/4.
with 10 days remaining in a six week pulse cycle.

Update
Day 35, i actually lost 1 1/2 pounds, down to 211 1/2 . Still 17 1/2 pounds up.
I really dont know how that happen, i did some pretty heavy core movements durning the later part of the week, but again: Chest day
Bench- my normal warm up work set 345x7x2 345x5+2 315x10
Incline 295x3 sets of 6 225x10
and the rest of my normal workout

update,
Day 42 with 6 day remaing on a 6 week pulse

I went to friday chest workout, normal warm up, core sets, 385x3 sets of 3 315x 10 end sets.
same daily eating and still personal best,

my weight as of Sunday Oct 26, 216 3/4. again, i dont know how, but that is a gain of 22 and 3/4 pounds with 6 days left, it is not suppose to be a wet gain, i dont think i have a wet gain, regardless, i gained , my strength is outrageous and it only adds to me tearing down the muscle to add new muscle. My critic cant see how.
I will most diffently buy another couple bottles just to sit on.
I still have my monday bench day i will be trying either 350 or 355 for 7 for 3 set, and friday chest for 390 or 395 for 3's,
and start my PCT come friday.
will keep updated til then.

 

[daleden]

day 48 done

Update on finishing the pulse,

Finish weight 215 lb.
Max out at 435 on Bench Personal Best
Bench 365x6 340x10

the sides that slowed me down the last week was back cramps, lidbo was down, was not a big factor to me. On the back cramp, i did my banana's and taurine, and lots of water, i just could not shake the cramps.

I wasnt sure if it was because i was deadlifting plus 400 or squating plus 400 on the same day, so i divide the days and still had them within 15 minutes of workout,
Otherwise, i would do again

 

[GeekPoop]

Awesome results man!! Those are some heavy benching, thats for sure. While off your cycle, you'll want to grab some of LG's ghenerate in the meantime. some users gained almost 8lbs!

 

[daleden]

thanks

hey thanks, i will check that out, i know that my body has to regroup from all that heavy lifting, so i will be in a maintaince mode for the next 4 weeks, then put together a new workout and supplement plan.

 

[Liftingstud]

I don't see how u gained lbs in 7 days on a pulse... And those results seem so a typical for a pulse cycle. If true, very nice.

 

[daleden]

One thing 4 sure, im not supplement savvy, all i do is read up on what i think could work for me, I knew i did not want to feel all the sides to anything an went with the pulse system.
All i can say is i documented from day one to day 48, i constructed my workout to work with the what i was taking vs. just going to workout an a see what i got, i challege my body in most every exercise and went up every week for 48 days, i dont think i did anything outside the norm but added olive oil to maybe 10-12 protien drinks.
I did test bodyfat after, i went up 3% 6 pounds out of 21 gained, i can take that because im trying to gain weight until Feb.
Im two week off and im still 215, i still hit 390x3 on bench today for 2 sets, and 325x4 on incline.
Im just hoping to stay about 208 for the next 8 weeks, if i can, i have that weight to work with next.
So i cant explaine the why, but again, my workout partner gained 20 pounds hisself.

 

[Liftingstud]

I am not sure how u did ur math but...
Starting weight 194 at 16% means 31.04lbs of fat
ending weight 215 at 19% means 40.85lbs of fat
change of 9.81lbs of fat...
So out of your 21lbs gained almost 10lbs was fat.

 

[daleden]

In your math you are right and very close, if you needed me to be exact, i would have said it was actually 2.4% increase on the fat caliber. I round it up to 3%, and from start weight to end weight, it only showed 5.8 total pounds up, round it up to 6, and we know the that fat calibers could be 2-3% up or down, so, in retrospect, that 10, 9 you are speaking of is still 6 like i said, and worst case scenio, 7. But it dont matter to me because i still have a 33 1/2 inch waist, and im plus 200lbs. and have not done a lick of cardio in 6 months. Before that, i have not done cardio in a year.
Plus, im in the off session, and used to only wish i could get this type of weigh to lift heavy. I only went on what the caliber told me. Isnt 2.2 lb - 1%? it was less, just rounded up. I personally tried to eat extra to get whatever i could get, i got it, i will say, i did not know i would keep all the extra calories i ate, and that it would be stored as fat, but belief me, that wrinkle will be fix the next time.
Now, at 42, 19% and just my 3rd time on a proho-. i take it as im doing alright, and alittle past alright. I am still able to see and allusion of my six pack, and when march comes, i just happen to have an extra 6-10 pounds to lose, and losing weight has never been a problem with me.
so why dont you congratulate vs. reading into every decimal point that is written?
To close,
pick someone, yourself if you feel, lets set a date, whatever supplement, i know me, body will make it happen, strength , lose weight, cut up, whatever, im alway up for a challege. Sounds fair? i read this site to gain knowledge and to apply it to me with what i have already been thru trail an error with the weights, then i tweet it to work for me, not to criticize what a person did or didnt do.
I can go into any gym and clown, if a person wanted to see me do 65-70 pound db curls with form, been there. I can go on and on, but my point is, i think i done well all around, so to hear you for the 5th time try to throw in a negitive, im just trying to answer that negitive.

It would not had manner if it was 12 pounds of fat, i learned to tweet my intake for next time.

If my scanner works, im going to send you a flick, like you criticize that, and show me at 185 when 20 pounds of fat would be bad for me, make me look bad or even worth me making this long converstion with you.
Its the fall, i want weight, i want weight, yes im mad 6-7 lbs. came like it did, i just have to cardio extra in the spring, the spring.
Im only talking back cause i remenber you are the reason i wrote this reprint for critic's.
But i hope that you can still give me good insight, because i went with what you said, it didnt seem to help or hurt me, just say me a extra 12 pills for next time. but thank you

 

[Liftingstud]

What are u talking about? 2.2lbs is 1% huh?!?! A lb of fat is an lb of fat just like a lb of muscle is an lb of muscle. I was making the point that you put on a lot of fat during your cycle. Which is totally fine an dandy. I don't care u are over 200lbs and have A 33.5" waist. Toney Freeman is over 300lbs and has a 30" waist. And if u are around 19%bf u are over weight, which is fine if u want to bulk but I like seeing mt abs year round and at 19 u can't. But different strokes for different folks.

I critized ur org post because u are pulse taking a dose so late at nigh, 11pm for ur 6am workout. Which is def not how u should pulse a cycle. A pulse is taken an hour or so preworkout then a dose taken right after the workout. Some people just take a dose preworkout. And u want to do this the earliest in the day.

I made put a whole dosing timeline in your other post that u fail to mention here to show that u were not doing the pulse correctly. Yes you my have had good results but it's not the proper protocal for pulsing.

 

[daleden]

no, 1% of bodyfat is 2.2 lb check you math on that sir, and if im wrong, yea right. Im going to have to look at you a little different, i would have thought everyone knew that

 

[daleden]

Lets say this, a 300 lb dude may have been on steriods for 8-9 years, so dont compare me with something like that, a 42 year old man, at 19% who had not cardio but for 5weeks 24 months, is GREAT,
an for all the Male Fitness looking guys that want to see their six pack year round, dont take my quote out of context, "but are the guys who dont know how to get big, scared to go up in weight on exercises, and if you are already skinny doing cardio and doing ab's and lifting whatever that jane fonda weight is , is just find to.
But, im am

 

[Liftingstud]

Ummm... NO! How in the world is that corect?!?!?

Your body fat % is the a prevent of your weight that is fat.

You can not take a % and equate a unit of measurement to it.

Some one can be 100lbs and 10%bf means 10lbs of fat... Another person can be 100lbs and 20% that's means 20lbs is fat.

 

[daleden]

unless your six pack is out of this world, you cant comment on a person at 19% in off season, i CAN SEE my six pack sir, its not locked in like i would like at 10,9,8,6%
but why, im married two kids, 42, worked 12 hours shifts for 6 days a week for 7 years,
if i did not lift weights, and eat just to maintain, i would have a six pack just because, my wife dont like me skinny or anything under 190, i look like men fitness guys.
I haave been there done that when i wanted to say im not trying to get big, but now, or even last year or the year before, let me creep down to 10,9,8 % i still dont look like a men fitness, I look like i have way more muscle , why, because i got a little fat at 19% durning the off season when i cant take off my shirt, when i can walk in a gym an its still cold, i dont need no one to see my skin until march thruaug, . So the fat phrase just wanted to show why im fat.
before i was married i did ab's 6 days a week for 9 years, is that why maybe since im fat they still show at 19%?
I can still walk in a gym and do a jane fonda to be slim, that dont float my boat, when i vaction 5-6 durning spring and summer, thats when i dont care to lift heavy, and maintain.

 

[daleden]

An last quote back, the pulse is a theory from someone, if we all followed everything to the find line we wouldn't be able to discovery new things.
So, even thou i took your advice and went back to a orignal pulsing, it again did not service positive or negitive to do it that way. In all honesty, i think i was able to configure my own adjustment to the pulse. An it worked for me.
What, are you going to go tell me to go take some test to prove my, i mine your point correct? Just rereading what you wrong to add to my comments

 

[Liftingstud]

you dont have to go defending yourself, maybe you really arent 19% cause honestly 19% puts you in the acceptable category (18–26%), not even in the fitness (14–17%). Which if you can see your abs you probably arent as high as the reading said.

That aside... yes pulsing is a theory but it was designed by someone way smarter in pharmacology and pharmodynamics that you or me. You already said your "not supplement savvy." So why go an change something someone has designed that is way way smarter in this area than you are. I showed you in your last thread with the way you were pulsing, you were actually increasing your blood levels and not giving it time to clear. This is one of the main ideas behind pulsing. You take the dose early in the day preworkout when you natty test levels are at their highest, as the day goes you test levels lower, and at night your body produces more test (but the compound has cleared by now). What you were doing was taking a dose late at night. When you body sees this exogenous compound it will slowly stop producing test... leading to shutdown... one of the sides you were trying to avoid.

Now lets really speak to this 1% equals 2.2lbs... where in the world did you hear this lie?!?!?! Pounds are a unit of measure. A percentage is comparison of one thing to another. Lets take this example:
2 men one 100lbs the other 200lbs each are 10%bf... each of these men gain 2.2lbs of PURE fat... whos bf % increases the most... THE 100LBS man. Just like if the 100lbs man dropped 2.2lbs of PURE fat, his bf% would go down more compared to the 200lbs.
Hopefully we have this cleared up.

My whole point was to draw attention to the fact that you should not run a pulse cycle the way you did. It was not the way Dr. D designed it. And who wouldnt question someone that blew up 8lbs in 7 days on a pulse!?!?!?!!!! I mean you really have only taken the dose 3x... not even 7x like on a normal cycle. Then you incorrectly stated the amount of fat you gained so I corrected that (even when you go back and run the number with your new lower 2.4% increase you gained 9lbs of fat on your cycle) and you jumped all over me.

 

[daleden]

You must be a teache or something? how you are to put it, a person really cant argue. I, dont have a problem with doing the pulse as it was designed to do, again, i thought with me tweeting it just alittle to work for me, i thought i was getting the best of both worlds.
Your example on the bf%, let me find something an get that info over to you. I have alway went on 1% of bodyfat is equal to 2.2 pounds, so to lose 10% of bodyfat you would be losing 22 pound fat. that is not counting water or muscle, just bodyfat.
When i use to lean down, i would use that same math.
My son and friend are managers at LA Fitness for personal trainer's, and they were here at beginning of football season an they said they were about 12-13% and asked me, i said 16% they couldn't believe it because i did look leaner than them, and i a shirt you can tell my ab's are viewable. But i go off of the caliber just to keep it real.
So, my apologies, i was alittle offened.

 

[Liftingstud]

So if some one 300lbs is 10% bf they have more than 22lbs of bodyfat... They have 30lbs. Just like someone 100lbs at 10% would have only 10lbs of bodyfat.

They % is a relative to the total. Very simple elementry school math and concept.

 

[daleden]

No, you are right on the bodyfat percentage.
What i should have said, was that to lose 1% of fat is equal to 2.2 pounds.
So person at 200lb. an 10% bf would have 20 pounds fat, now if they wanted to lose 4% they would have to lose 8 pounds 8oz.
That's the math im speaking with the 2.2. pounds equal to 1% of bodyfat.
a 215 pound dude at 19% would have have 41 pounds of bf. , to get do to 10% he would have to lose 19 pound to be 10% at a new weight of 196. rounded up or down. thats all i was speaking of

 

[UnrealMachine]

omg. whats the cliffs notes?