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Weight: 177
Neck: 14.9
Shoulder: 46.9
Chest 37
waist 37.5
hips 41
bicep 13.4
forearm 11
thigh 23.5
calf 15

Bf: 28%

best lifts as of last workout of groups:

workouts target 45-55 min max intensity
16 min MAX ot style cardio post W/o on weight days
45 min cardio on non weight days
w/o 5-6 days per week, lift 4 days per week
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Biceps/Triceps/Abs

BB Curl 80x4 75x6
DB Curl 40x5 40x4
Cable Curl 57.5x6
French Press 75x5 75x4
Tricep pressdown 80x4 75x5
wrist curl 90x5 80x5
reverse wrist curl 20x10
Roman chair (weighted) 18x19 18x17
cable crunch 87.5x15 87.5x10
Weighted crunches 25x30
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Shoulder/Traps/back(partial)

BB Mil Press 110x6 110x5 114x4
DB Press 55x4 50x6
DB lat raise 30x7 30x5
BB Shrugs 195x6 195x6
Upright BB row 95x5 95x4
Cable row 85x5 85x4
DB bent row (double) 70x4 65x5
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Chest/Back(partial) Abs

DB bench 75x6 75x5 75x4
Incline DB bench 65x6 65x5 65x4
dips x BWx9 bwx7
Lat Pulldown 145x6 145x5 145x5
Back machine ext 250x12 250x7
Hyperextension (weighted) 35x8 35x6
reverse crunches 40 35 30
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Legs

squats(to parallel) 205x6 205x5 210x5
Leg press machine 295x6 295x5
stiff leg dead 175x6 180x6 180x6

Stand calf raise (using leg press machine)
405x14 405x14 - this is max machine weight

Calf raise machine (life) 210x12 220x12
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This is my first PH log and I will be following the following schedule. My last "pre" day will be 11/22/08 and I will be followung a pulse schedule. If you have any last second tweaks, feel free to add here, but this is PRIMARILY my log.

I will not be using SERM and will use OTC PCT, which is why I am not going as hard-core.

Dates: Starting 11/19/2008; PH starting 11/22/08

Weight Training Program: Using MAX-OT training plan **(4 days per week)**

Cardio/other: Doing 1-2 days long cardio: running. (I know this is not "max OT" approved, but I dont want to loose my progress running)

Other days HIIT 16 min per MAX-OT
3x per week Martial arts/MMA training ~45 min.
Other info: I have been training for 2 years using cardio and weights. I have increased strength and have reached a mild plateau. I have lost ~ 30 lbs and most was body fat. I have stalled on that department as well.

Supplementation:

Pre cycle: 4 days Anabolic Inovations cycle support 1 scoop
4 days NOW Liver detox 1 capsule/day 6 hours+ from cycle support
4 days DHEA 25/mg 2x/day (50mg/day ttl)

Regular sups: NOW Taurine 2g/day
(Everyday) Multi-Vitamins/Equate brand 1 per day
Purple Wraath (pre workout) ? serving

Off Days: Vitex 1 serv/day 2 caps/500mg in am
Novadex daily on off days.
NOW liver detox daily
DHEA 25mg/day
NOW Relora

Cycle: HAVOC 3 weeks on at a time, then 1 off.
Alternate 4 times a week and 3 times/wk.
2 days on, one off. Then 2 on, 2 off.
**final dose for wk is ~ ? dose on light day.

Week 1: 10/20/20/20
Week 2: 20/30/30/30
Week 3: 30/40/40/40
Week 4: OFF/PCT
Week 6 20/30/30/30
Week 7 30/40/40/40
Week 8 40/40/40
DONE!
**(will have a few left over to help fight gyno if it starts to set in plus my OTC arsenal Novadex XT / Vitex / B6 / PCT

Start full PCT

Anabolic Innovations Cycle support Daily 1 scoop AM/ 1 PM

Post Cycle/off-week:
Anabolic Innovations Post Cycle Support Daily for 3 weeks.
Gespari Novadex XT daily for 3 weeks.
DHEA 50mg/day
 
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That's some pretty high bodyfat. What does your diet look like?
 
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That's some pretty high bodyfat. What does your diet look like?
I try to eat about 1700-2200 per day but I go off often. My job entails lots of "road time" when it is hard to eat well. I find that even with me tracking things, I should be loosing and I dont. I work out much more than most daily, but still little progress. Here is diet from last few weeks to look at.

see attachment for easier to read format

Some days are abnormally low, these are days i got called out and couldnt finish logs. Also days at 0 are obviously just on logged days.

date calories protein fat carbs fiber sat sugar sodium cholest calcium
27-Oct-08 1306.23 173.19 43.53 55.59 9.15 5 8 2073.48 246.98 1353
28-Oct-08 2109 188 82.3 147.2 5.2 18.5 4 4855 1079 1574
29-Oct-08 2240.85 153.96 104.1 193.49 12.02 16 34 4348.39 381.21 609.92
30-Oct-08 1822.67 134.04 77.08 148.53 20.55 8.7 8 4388.94 865.54 634.46
31-Oct-08 2038.75 142.13 65.04 222.46 19.02 1 10 3053 602 1931.54
01-Nov-08 2008.91 122.49 106.81 139.46 7.52 22.37 1.35 3498.99 539.22 541.45
02-Nov-08 1859.39 143.62 74.83 160.19 11.06 21.01 5.1 3681.99 604.71 1354.97
03-Nov-08 2189.88 79.56 86.01 222.13 18.51 17.71 69.12 4640.81 393.41 528.91
04-Nov-08 3284 124.76 180.33 297.35 16.57 39.36 43.34 4028.32 480.92 418.32
05-Nov-08 3241.4 115.21 149.31 374.73 31.59 50.49 82.58 6122.61 189.86 600.83
06-Nov-08 2630.34 86.05 125.66 290.64 12.28 41.13 80.39 3859.81 231.32 621.89
07-Nov-08 2197.87 64.74 102.93 263.85 10.32 32.54 84.97 2992.93 103.7 244.04
08-Nov-08 2855.68 141.53 125.01 293.91 6.71 17.09 59.64 3205.12 671.16 880.83
09-Nov-08 1835.29 75.42 85.21 196.81 7 14.74 40 3502.7 117.29 181.98
10-Nov-08 2835.4 90 129.26 340.09 15.44 44.91 72.53 4108.53 229.13 207.4
11-Nov-08 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
12-Nov-08 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
13-Nov-08 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
14-Nov-08 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
15-Nov-08 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
16-Nov-08 1633.3 89.22 28 264.86 29.1 6.5 80 3149 87 328.04
17-Nov-08 899.32 68.5 13.1 118.66 15.03 4 6 3581.75 90 298.26
18-Nov-08 2076.81 96.42 88.14 220.82 11.89 17.18 39.04 2325.85 191.07 375.7
19-Nov-08 2269.66 171.36 69.51 244.75 19.55 23.23 67.51 3508.43 182.28 1376.31
20-Nov-08 3769.2 179.59 137.83 427.05 26.92 27.58 68.18 5943.05 307.93 1819.07
21-Nov-08 2358.2 108.66 113.74 214.38 9.6 18.22 48.3 3134.4 390.88 390
 

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Well it certainly looks like you've got the statistical dedication! Good luck man.
 
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Day 1 Nov 23

Ok. Sorry for the question in my own log, but I am having problems posting pics here. How do I put them right in post?

I have just updated my AM space for pics and tracking the major lifts. I will try to update 1RM weekly.

10mg HAVOC today.

Dumbell Press 5x75
Incline DB 4x70
Pullover 10x80
DB row 8x60
Squat 8x205
Lunge 10x60
Leg curl 9x110 (laying)

these were all multiple sets, these are now my "baseline" lifts. a few lifts may change on this day as I have an A and B version.


23-Nov-08 Pump 6/10
23-Nov-08 Gyno side effects 0/5
23-Nov-08 Fatigue 2/5
23-Nov-08 Soreness 1/5
23-Nov-08 Workout Success 6/10
23-Nov-08 Hours of Sleep 4 hours
23-Nov-08 Stress 6/10
23-Nov-08 Energy Level 6/10
23-Nov-08 Mood 6/10

Cals Protein (g) Fat (g) Carbs (g) Fiber (g) Saturated Fats (g) Sugar (g) Sodium (mg) Cholesterol (mg)
Report Total 3055.77 282.61 76.3 308.99 31.16 27.29 83.6 5036.72 486.35

Sunday, November 23, 2008 17:26

Normal hunger today. I had problems eating the number of calories. I am trying to eat 500 above maintainance. I usually dont have problem, but I think I went too far yesterday on my last hoorah of cake and icecrream leftover from my wifes b-day.

I found little difference at the top of my workout, though I did seem to have some extra energy on my 3rd set. My sleep last night was only like 4 hours, so this is mostly to blame for low energy level today.

Increased my normal 45 min workout to 1.5 hours today as well. COmbo of lack of sleep and longer w/o meant I was dragging bottom towards the end. I had to drink coffee and sit for 10 min to even be able to finish.
 

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I have decided to up my calories to 2500-3000 fot this cycle. I will cut later. I want to make max use of my cycle here and add in a few extra calories to build the muscle.
 
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This is one interesting cycle for sure. I think they way you have it set up looks pretty good. You may have to adjust the havoc dosing a bit to acquire better effect in this cycle design, but if it's working for you as is, don't change it.

Good luck, brother. :drunk:
 
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HAVOC day 2 20mg

Well, my legs got me out of bed this morning and said Sir, you are an *******". I feel like i worked out for the first time yesterday on my legs. the DOMS are here, but I think it has more to do with how hard I was able to push myself.

20mg HAVOC today. Notices a SLIGHT increase in stamina, etc but not much. I am due to cycle off a day tomorow and would like to keep going, but this isnt time to mess with the plan.

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Cals Protein (g) Fat (g) Carbs (g) Fiber (g) Saturated Fats (g) Sugar (g) Sodium (mg) Cholesterol (mg)
Report Total 2856.75 269.69 96.38 233.7 24.5 15.02 34 2503.38 300.5

Barbell Clean and Press 5 105.00
Barbell Clean and Press 4 105.00
Barbell Clean and Press 4 95.00
Shoulders Lateral Raise 8 30.00
Shoulders Lateral Raise 6 30.00
Shoulders Lateral Raise 6 30.00

Back Upright Row 1 6 95.00
Back Upright Row 2 7 90.00
Back Upright Row 3 7 85.00
Back Push Press 1 6 90.00
Back Push Press 2 4 90.00
Back Push Press 3 5 85.00
Back Back Extension 1 10 260.00
Back Back Extension 2 8 260.00
Arms Barbell Curl 1 3 85.00
Arms Barbell Curl 2 6 75.00
Arms Barbell Curl 3 4 75.00
Arms Barbell Curl 4 6 70.00
Bi's Seated Dumbell Curl 4 35.00
Bi's Seated Dumbell Curl 6 30.00
Bi's Seated Dumbell Curl 9 25.00

Arms Close Grip Bench 1 6 95.00
Arms Close Grip Bench 2 5 95.00
Arms Close Grip Bench 3 4 95.00

Arms Dumbell Triceps Ext 12 45.00
Arms Dumbell Triceps Ext 5 55.00
Triceps Tricep Press Down 1 6 75.00
Triceps Tricep Press Down 2 4 75.00

24-Nov-08 Pump 7 /10
24-Nov-08 Gyno side effects 0/5
24-Nov-08 Fatigue 5 /10
24-Nov-08 Soreness 9 /10
24-Nov-08 Workout Success 8/10
24-Nov-08 Hours of Sleep 5
24-Nov-08 Stress 5 /10
24-Nov-08 Energy Level 6/10
24-Nov-08 Mood 7 /10
 
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Havoc day 3

no havoc today. 75mg of DHEA and Novedex (1 pill) this eve. Also took 3 Relora today for anti-cort and my cycle support. Also melatinin, but this is a regular in my arsenal. Took 2g of Tauring today as well. I am realizing that I will need more cycle support (in long run) due to this pulsing and running longer than std. cycle, but that's ok. It will be worth it for peace of mind on recovery and quick turnaround to something else.

Diet
Cals Protein (g) Fat (g) Carbs (g) Fiber (g) Saturated Fats (g) Sugar (g) Sodium (mg) Cholesterol (mg)
Report Total 2155.87 246.11 54.11 170.4 12.92 12.92 43 2843.42 260.72

Treadmill
Distance: 4.76 miles
Duration: 00:47:00
Pace: 6.08mph
Effort: 7
Cals Burned: 584+

no weights today, just cardio. Cardio seemed a bit harder, but likely due to not doing as much cardio lately (concentrating on weights) and probably backsliding a little bit.

25-Nov-08 Pump na cardio only
25-Nov-08 Gyno side effects 0
25-Nov-08 Fatigue 5
25-Nov-08 Soreness 7
25-Nov-08 Workout Success 7
25-Nov-08 Hours of Sleep 5
25-Nov-08 Stress 5
25-Nov-08 Energy Level 7
25-Nov-08 Mood 8
 
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Ok. 20mg Havoc today. I have been good and took my cycle support on the road with me. I should be home tomorow night late though. Anxious to get back on regular routine.

It took some doing, but I got the hotel shuttle to take me to gym and managed to get a workout in. I dont have my usual program, so this is the best I can do while away.

I basically did an instinctive type workout today and tried to hit the muscles that were the second group hit earlier in the wek again, but FIRST this time. I KICKED Arse in the gym toay. Not sure on equiv 1rm, but my lifts on the db press were up in weight by 5 lbs AND reps by 3 or so. Very pleased today. I still had a bit of problem making it through my new longer 1.5 hour workout, but I made it.

DB bench 80x4 75x7 75x4 70x6
Inclind DB bench 65x5 60x6 60x5
BB pullover 90x6 90x5 70x12 (someone was bogarting the 80 lb bar)
BB bicep curl 70x9 70x7 70x6 70x5
DB Hammer curl 35x7 35x6 35x5
DB bent row (double) 65x7 65x4 65x5
Lat pulldown 140x7 140x5 130x6
cable row 140x7 140x5 130x5

About 1.5 hours total of "down to business" lifting.

Great pump today, felt like I was bigger than I am. No "bad" attitude, but I was more forceful and "kick the weights butt" today than before.

no gyno side effects yet.

only like 4 hours sleep last night, so this was successful even with my fatigue level.

no food log today.
 
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Turkey day today.

Summary: no diet tracking due to lots of pumpkin pie and stuff.

No workout today.

No side effects.

Took today off of cycle even though published to be on.

Still feel like my muscles are bigger than normal, we shall see next workout!
 
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Friday, November 28, 2008 15:08

20g Havoc pre workout today. 10mg post (1 hour after)
Took 1 scoop Purplw Wraath as well. Already feeling very pmped before PW kicked in, but afterwards I actually felt like my muscles were going to blow!. Great feeling. EXCELLTENT workout, even though I didnt have gynm today and had to do lighter sets and more of them due to my crappy facilities at home. Guess I need to go to wally world and grab some cheap weight plates for my cheap bar and DB's


Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 8 x 40 lbs
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 8 x 40 lbs
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 8 x 40 lbs
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 8 x 40 lbs
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 8 x 40 lbs
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 8 x 40 lbs
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 8 x 40 lbs
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 8 x 40 lbs
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 8 x 40 lbs
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 8 x 40 lbs
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 8 x 40 lbs
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 8 x 40 lbs
Shoulders Lateral Raise 12 x 20 lbs
Shoulders Lateral Raise 12 x 20 lbs
Shoulders Lateral Raise 12 x 20 lbs
Shoulders Lateral Raise 12 x 20 lbs
Shoulders Lateral Raise 12 x 20 lbs
Shoulders Lateral Raise 12 x 20 lbs
Arms Dumbell Curl 12 x 30 lbs
Arms Dumbell Curl 12 x 30 lbs
Arms Dumbell Curl 12 x 30 lbs
Arms Dumbell Curl 12 x 30 lbs
Arms Dumbell Curl 12 x 30 lbs
Arms Dumbell Curl 12 x 30 lbs


Back Dumbell Row 12 x 45 lbs
Back Dumbell Row 12 x 45 lbs
Back Dumbell Row12 x 45 lbs
Back Dumbell Row 12 x 45 lbs
Back Dumbell Row 12 x 45 lbs
Back Dumbell Row 12 x 45 lbs

Food Report Total

Cals Protein (g) Fat (g) Carbs (g) Fiber (g) Saturated Fats (g) Sugar (g) Sodium (mg) Cholesterol (mg)
Report Total 1972.46 173.47 76.72 131.73 5.9 22.06 20 2535.52 387.25

A little off on the macro's here. I will probably eat some more after I log this, but want to get this is as I wont have another chance tonight.
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28-Nov-08 Pump 9
28-Nov-08 Gyno side effects 0
28-Nov-08 Fatigue 2
28-Nov-08 Soreness 2
28-Nov-08 Workout Success 8.5
28-Nov-08 Hours of Sleep 8
28-Nov-08 Stress 6
28-Nov-08 Energy Level 9
28-Nov-08 Mood 8

Final food count:

Report Total

Cals Protein (g) Fat (g) Carbs (g) Fiber (g) Saturated Fats (g) Sugar (g) Sodium (mg) Cholesterol (mg)
Report Total 2924.26 240.47 108.52 233.73 15.4 36.26 76.2 3449.12 451.85
 
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Gains in gym but not on paper.

OK. This morning I weighed and I am 178.6. This is a gain of about 1 lb. PROBLEM is that the bf went up 1% and 1% of 177 is 2 slb, so BF scale says I LOST muscle?>? This cant be right as I feel stronger and all lifts are up. I will weight again in a few days (this will be off my weekly weight-in schedule) to see if this was just an abnormality.

I should be dosing today, but I may skip today since I am at home and cant really do squats, etc here. I might run, but I dont want to waste a dose just to do that.

BTW, any subscribers? I'm finishing this out either way, but I was just cruious.

I will update this post again later today.

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Running - Hills
Intruction:
Start Time: 02:41 PM
Distance: 3 miles
Duration: 00:27:00
Pace: 6.67mph
Effort: 7
Cals Burned: 337

Off HAVOC today. from some others I should have minor gains in cardio as well. Didnt notice any + or - in this area.
 
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yesterday 30nov and today 1dec I have been a bit sick (unrelated to cycle, at least 99% sure).

I plan on working out again tomorow.
 
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OK. This morning I weighed and I am 178.6. This is a gain of about 1 lb. PROBLEM is that the bf went up 1% and 1% of 177 is 2 slb, so BF scale says I LOST muscle?>? This cant be right as I feel stronger and all lifts are up. I will weight again in a few days (this will be off my weekly weight-in schedule) to see if this was just an abnormality.

I should be dosing today, but I may skip today since I am at home and cant really do squats, etc here. I might run, but I dont want to waste a dose just to do that.

BTW, any subscribers? I'm finishing this out either way, but I was just cruious.

I will update this post again later today.

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Running - Hills
Intruction:
Start Time: 02:41 PM
Distance: 3 miles
Duration: 00:27:00
Pace: 6.67mph
Effort: 7
Cals Burned: 337

Off HAVOC today. from some others I should have minor gains in cardio as well. Didnt notice any + or - in this area.
Are you using an electronic BF% calculator (the one integrated with a scale)? If so, they are NO WERE near accurate to 1%.
 
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Are you using an electronic BF% calculator (the one integrated with a scale)? If so, they are NO WERE near accurate to 1%.
I use an electronic scale I got at wallie world. I thought about using the calipers, but I am not really skilled or trained to do that correctly.

Regardless of the scale and the BF, I can tell FOR SURE that things are changing. I am eating more than I ever have and I still am feeling leaner and definalely stronger.
 
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30mg HAVOC

Today I went to workout already worn out. After taking the HAVOC my energy level was ready to kick butt. I can always feel it kick in (not like a brick wall, but I can tell when it is "onboard"). The purple wraath I took at 1/2 dose as last time I almost felt too much of a pump. I didnt really feel the PW this time though, may be because of food still in stomach from lunch.

DB press 80x5 80x4 75x5 70x5 (up on All of these)
Inclind DB at 40 deg 70x4 70x3 60x7 no gains but different angle
Pullover 90x7 80x9 80x8 (gains of all)
Squats 215x8 215x6 215x4 205x5
Lunge 70x10 70x8 70x6
Leg Curl 120x6 115x6 110x6 105x6 (moderate gains)
Calf raise machine 230x14 230x12 230x10

Did not track calories today, but it is on par with previous days. I should have my database fixed and tracking all figures again soon.
 

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Subscribing! keep up the frequent post updates, good information.
 
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Subscribing! keep up the frequent post updates, good information.
I'll sure try. My job can go from nothing to extreemly busy in no time, but I have done okay so far. Good to have you onboard.
 
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30mg HAVOC today.

full scoop purple Wraath.

03-Dec-08 Pump 6
03-Dec-08 Gyno side effects 0
03-Dec-08 Fatigue 9
03-Dec-08 Soreness 5
03-Dec-08 Workout Success 4
03-Dec-08 Hours of Sleep 4
03-Dec-08 Stress 7
03-Dec-08 Energy Level 3
03-Dec-08 Mood 4


Felt good at start of workout, but only "okay". I probably wouldnt have even made it if not for the supps. Really tired and sleep debt is growing. I didnt have the longevity today in the gym, but I made it. I am cutting back to normal length workouts for a few days at least. No sides, and steady gains, but nothing just WOW!! Increased gains versus normal though. Having issues eating calories though. Ive never ad an issue with this before, but when you are eating GOOD calories, you get filled up more - far easier to get calories on crap.

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Cals Protein (g) Fat (g) Carbs (g) Fiber (g) Saturated Fats (g) Sugar (g) Sodium (mg) Cholesterol (mg)
Report Total 1846.2 201 44.8 144 10.8 17.8 36.8 3333.4 261.9

Type - Free Weights Barbell Clean and Press 6 110.00
Type - Free Weights Barbell Clean and Press 5 110.00
Type - Free Weights Barbell Clean and Press 4 110.00
Type - Free Weights Barbell Clean and Press 5 105.00
Shoulders Lateral Raise 4 35.00
Shoulders Lateral Raise 8 30.00
Shoulders Lateral Raise 6 30.00
Shoulders Lateral Raise 6 30.00
Back Upright Row 5 100.00
Back Upright Row 5 95.00
Back Upright Row 6 90.00
Back Push Press 6 95.00
Back Push Press 4 95.00
Back Push Press 5 90.00
Back Back Extension 9 270.00
Back Back Extension 7 270.00
Arms Barbell Curl 4 80.00
Arms Barbell Curl 6 75.00
Arms Barbell Curl 4 75.00
Arms Barbell Curl 0 60.00
Bi's Seated Dumbell Curl 5 35.00
Bi's Seated Dumbell Curl 4 35.00
Bi's Seated Dumbell Curl 7 30.00
Chest Hammer Curl 3 40.00
Chest Hammer Curl 6 35.00
Chest Hammer Curl 5 35.00
 
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Just got throug with workout.

Today is "off" day. I cant seem to catch up on my sleep. I could have slept 3-4 more hours HONESTLY. I had to pry my eyelids open and probably looked like a mindless zombie on the treadmill today. I hit my marks, but had to really push myself, and there wasnt much ability to motivate myself today. Feeling "drained". Different than just tired - I am physically drained. I think the lack of sleep and high stress the last week combined with upping my routine length AND being on cycle has stressed my body quite a bit.

I am goint to bed EARLY tonight. No real shutdown, I dont think.... Nuts are sligtly smaller, but still in what I would call normal range. No acne; no real back pumps - maybe a small "ache" here and there. Joint pain earlier on has gone away with use of Glucosamine-Chondroiten (sp.?)

One issue that is present is some stomach pain. I am not usre if this is due to y diet change or the HAVOC. I am off today, so we will see how my stomach is tomorow am after a day off, and the next day after a day back on. Stay tuned....

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Cals Protein (g) Fat (g) Carbs (g) Fiber (g) Saturated Fats (g) Sugar (g) Sodium (mg) Cholesterol (mg)
Report Total 2670.69 167.3 101.56 277.4 11.38 27.92 88.49 4051.32 201

Treadmill

Distance: 4.76 miles
Duration: 00:47:00
Effort: 6
Cals Burned: 516 +

04-Dec-08 Pump NA
04-Dec-08 Gyno side effects 0
04-Dec-08 Fatigue 10
04-Dec-08 Soreness 3
04-Dec-08 Workout Success 5
04-Dec-08 Hours of Sleep 5
04-Dec-08 Stress 5
04-Dec-08 Energy Level 2
04-Dec-08 Mood 2
 
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30mg Havoc today. 1 scoop Purpl Wraath. My skin was a tinglin. Not hat "I think I feel something" but VERY PRESENT. Great PUMPS today and ++great++ lifts. I went of 10 lbs from just a week ago per side on dumbells. I hit stuff hard today and felt good. No sides yet either. I am happpy there.

set reps weight
Shoulders Dumbell Press 1 4 85.00
Shoulders Dumbell Press 2 4 80.00
Shoulders Dumbell Press 3 5 75.00
Shoulders Dumbell Press 4 4 75.00
Chest Incline Dumbell Press 1 4 70.00
Chest Incline Dumbell Press 2 5 65.00
Chest Incline Dumbell Press 3 6 60.00
Chest Cable Flye 1 10 30.00
Chest Cable Flye 2 4 35.00
Back Pullover 1 6 90.00
Back Pullover 2 8 80.00
Triceps French Press 1 9 55.00
Triceps French Press 2 5 65.00
Triceps French Press 3 5 60.00
Triceps French Press 4 6 60.00
Triceps Tricep Rope Extension 1 3 73.00
Triceps Tricep Rope Extension 2 5 65.00
Triceps Tricep Rope Extension 3 6 57.00
Arms Dumbell Triceps Ext 1 8 50.00
Arms Dumbell Triceps Ext 2 6 50.00
Arms Dumbell Triceps Ext 3 5 50.00
Chest Dips 1 177.00
Chest Dips 2 177.00
Abdomen Reverse Crunch 1 30 1.00
Abdomen Reverse Crunch 2 30 1.00
Abdomen Reverse Crunch 3 20 1.00

05-Dec-08 Pump 9
05-Dec-08 Gyno side effects 0
05-Dec-08 Fatigue 3
05-Dec-08 Soreness 3
05-Dec-08 Workout Success 9
05-Dec-08 Hours of Sleep 5
05-Dec-08 Stress 5
05-Dec-08 Energy Level 8
05-Dec-08 Mood 8
 
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Ok. Weigh in day. I have not changed since las wigh in. SO total this is up 1 lb but 1% BF !! WTF!??

I could believe the scale error once, but I have been making solid strength gains and dont feel any "fatter" and maybe even a bit smaller. This saps some of my drive here for sure.... I must say that I have been forcing myself to eat the numbers of calories I eed to go just above maintainance to grow since "good" foods seem to fill me up more.

Introduced LG SLIN today. Pumps were a bit more even than usual, even with 1/2 scoop Purple Wraath. The SLIN made a bit extra time endurance wise, bt it is not "nght and day" I do plan on continuing to use this Legal Gear (LG) product for the remeinder. I have also decided to integrate IGF by LG into my PCT when it is time.

Todays workout was a home workout. As normal, my weights and facity is very limmited, so I did what I could.

Good strength today. Introducing forst higher dose of 40mg HAVOC tdoay. So far no sides, good strength gains, but my scale doesnt seem to be reflecting how I feel.

Lift set reps weight

Arms Barbell Curl 1 11 65.00
Arms Barbell Curl 2 8 65.00
Arms Barbell Curl 3 7 65.00
Arms Barbell Curl 4 5 65.00
Arms Barbell Curl 5 6 65.00
Arms Barbell Curl 6 4 65.00
Arms Concentration Curl 1 5 30.00
Arms Concentration Curl 2 4 30.00
Arms Concentration Curl 3 8 25.00
Arms Concentration Curl 4 7 25.00
Arms Concentration Curl 5 7 25.00
Arms Concentration Curl 6 7 25.00
Back Dumbell Row 1 10 60.00
Back Dumbell Row 2 8 60.00
Back Dumbell Row 3 6 60.00
Back Dumbell Row 4 5 60.00
Back Dumbell Row 5 5 60.00
Back Dumbell Row 6 5 60.00
Back Reverse Flyes 1 12 10.00
Back Reverse Flyes 2 10 10.00
Back Reverse Flyes 3 10 10.00
Back Barbell Row 1 12 125.00
Back Barbell Row 2 10 125.00
Back Barbell Row 3 7 125.00

06-Dec-08 Pump 8
06-Dec-08 Gyno side effects 0
06-Dec-08 Fatigue 2
06-Dec-08 Soreness 3
06-Dec-08 Workout Success 9
06-Dec-08 Hours of Sleep 9
06-Dec-08 Stress 4
06-Dec-08 Energy Level 8
06-Dec-08 Mood 8
 
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Off day today on Havoc and on Lifting.
I took 1/2 dose LG M1D as recommended by LGs reps. I am going to try this for a week and see how it helps or hurts me. I am also going to start using IGF-1 for synergistic effect. I plan on 1/2 dosing the Methyl 1-d (M1D) to stay on the safe side, though I ay walk the dose up if everthing looks ok.

I took a 1/2 dose of IGH-1 by LG this evening. I will update on this tomorow. Ran outside today (not a day I am in town for the gym) Not used to running outside in cold, but made it through fine. I REALLY REALLY wanted to lift toay but had to make myself take the day off. I took the LG M1D today at 1/2 dose (2 pills) and I think that did make a difference in my drive to lift. The extra rest the last few days has also helped me get back to baseline. No shutdown, but the boys are slightly smaller. Still running good with no real sides.

Finally got calories goal today, guess my body had to adjust to intake of more than normal.


07-Dec-08 Pump NA
07-Dec-08 Gyno side effects 1
07-Dec-08 Fatigue 2
07-Dec-08 Soreness 2
07-Dec-08 Workout Success 9
07-Dec-08 Hours of Sleep 9
07-Dec-08 Stress 6
07-Dec-08 Energy Level 8
07-Dec-08 Mood 6

Running - Hills
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Start Time: 04:07 PM
Distance: 3 miles
Duration: 00:27:00
Pace: 6.67mph
Effort: 7
Cals Burned: 339

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Cals Protein (g) Fat (g) Carbs (g) Fiber (g) Saturated Fats (g) Sugar (g) Sodium (mg) Cholesterol (mg)
Report Total 3155.44 239.33 88.23 365.81 33.99 16.54 80.12 4077.8 152.72
 
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off day on havoc. No exercise today.

Modified off day dosing.

LG M1D after breakfast (2)
multi vitamin
single scoop cycle support
later in day, liver detox

Bed
melatonin 5mg
Novedex XT (1)
IGF-1 (4)

I think that covers it.

Felt okay today, but lower energy. The boys are a bit smaller, but still in the no woories range.

Report Total

Cals Protein (g) Fat (g) Carbs (g) Fiber (g) Saturated Fats (g) Sugar (g) Sodium (mg) Cholesterol (mg)
Report Total 3537.42 307.98 94.38 342.09 40.33 17.66 49.8 5670.22 431.15

08-Dec-08 Pump NA
08-Dec-08 Gyno side effects 0
08-Dec-08 Fatigue 4
08-Dec-08 Soreness 2
08-Dec-08 Workout Success NA
08-Dec-08 Hours of Sleep 9
08-Dec-08 Stress 5
08-Dec-08 Energy Level 6
08-Dec-08 Mood 6
 
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Havoc pulse with M1D and IGF-1

IGF-1 last night at 4 ppills gave me a great night sleep. This plus melatonin almost made me late for work. I usually wake up at a fly in the room...

Great workout today, and good pumps. Took 40mg havoc(20 before, 20 after w/o) and 4 M1D 2 on wake up (1 hour prior to w/o) and 2 at lunch. Good energy in gym, byt running lower this afternoon.

Feeling bigger even after the "pump" is gone. I can tell I am growing, but scale still is pissing me off by moving up in BF and weight.

09-Dec-08 Pump 8
09-Dec-08 Gyno side effects 0
09-Dec-08 Fatigue 2
09-Dec-08 Soreness 6
09-Dec-08 Workout Success 9
09-Dec-08 Hours of Sleep 7
09-Dec-08 Stress 6
09-Dec-08 Energy Level 7
09-Dec-08 Mood 7

Group / exercise / set# / reps / weight
Legs Squats 1 6 225.00
Legs Squats 2 4 225.00
Legs Squats 3 6 215.00
Legs Squats 4 5 215.00
Legs Lunge 1 8 90.00
Legs Lunge 2 5 90.00
Legs Leg Curl 1 6 125.00
Legs Leg Curl 2 5 125.00
Legs Leg Curl 3 4 125.00
Legs Leg Curl 4 10 65.00
Legs Leg Extension 1 8 150.00
Arms Barbell Curl 1 4 85.00
Arms Barbell Curl 2 5 80.00
Arms Barbell Curl 3 4 80.00
Arms Barbell Curl 4 5 75.00
Bi's Incline seated DB curl 1 4 35.00
Bi's Incline seated DB curl 2 5 30.00
Bi's Incline seated DB curl 3 5 30.00
Chest Hammer Curl 1 6 35.00
Chest Hammer Curl 2 4 35.00
Chest Hammer Curl 3 8 30.00
Legs Seated Calf Raise 1 14 250.00
Legs Seated Calf Raise 2 12 250.00
Legs Seated Calf Raise 3 11 250.00
Arms Cable Curl 1 6 57.50
Arms Cable Curl 2 4 57.50
Arms Straight Leg Deadlift 1 8 185.00
Arms Straight Leg Deadlift 2 8 185.00
Arms Straight Leg Deadlift 3 7 185.00

Report Total

Cals Protein (g) Fat (g) Carbs (g) Fiber (g) Saturated Fats (g) Sugar (g) Sodium (mg) Cholesterol (mg)
Report Total 3174.72 312.44 101.64 259.28 33.88 38.54 87.14 4012.52 326.69
 
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40mg havoc today, 2 M1D, 1/2 scoop Purple Wraath

Good pumps today. Not quite as good (likely the 1/2 scoop PW insead of fulll) but still EXCELLENT.

Good energy today - ready to attack the gym with fury. Slept great last night. IGF-1 plus melatonin = better than script for sleep, or at least as good.

Good gains in the gym. Scale showed up 2 lbs and either 0% or 1% BF. Weighed 3 times and weight is accurate, but BF showed same twice (no up or down) and up 1% once. I guess it must be teetering on the verge. Anywy, this means my gains I have been seeing and knew were there are finally reflectin gon the scale. Honestly, te weight gain isnt a big thing for me, as I want my BF down anyway, but so long as fat gain is smaller, I am still happy. Good gains on most lifts so far.

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Ive run Havoc Before with incretible resaults and i would suggest not taking more than one pill at a time infact space dosing out every six hours (doesnt have to be exact) this will help maximise the effects (it has a 6 hour half life in your system)
for ex: dose at 6am 12pm 6pm then at 12am or before bed
you will also get better absorption if you take each dose with a teaspoon or 2 of peanutbutter
GL and HF:thumbsup:
 
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Ive run Havoc Before with incretible resaults and i would suggest not taking more than one pill at a time infact space dosing out every six hours (doesnt have to be exact) this will help maximise the effects (it has a 6 hour half life in your system)
for ex: dose at 6am 12pm 6pm then at 12am or before bed
you will also get better absorption if you take each dose with a teaspoon or 2 of peanutbutter
GL and HF:thumbsup:
This makes sense, and I will probably floow that when I do the next round (regular). Following the Doc advice (dr D) on the pulse forum he advocates the uneven dosing pre then afterwards. I am doing it that way due to that. I think you have some sound advice though for those on a non pulse!
 
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P.S. My father is in hospital and I will be out of town a few days. No real w/o facilities and no "lifter food" there, so I will do my best, but updates may be basic at best.
 

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Lawlz I dont have enough post to respond to your pm
Happy to help just given back to the community thats given me so much help and advice
 
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Oh i see I've never tried pulsing soo im subbed to see the resaults.
Yeah my first cycle(first and only)
i started 20ed/30ed/40ed/40ed/40ed
225 25% body fat
by the end i got down to 216 15% and wasnt even trying to cut. still was doing 25 mins cardio ed soo maybe thats why
noticed a 50-75% reduction in my gyno (hadsince i was 11)
And only took Activate extreme for my pct(pluss Levi & DCP 8 weeks after with steady strength gains still) soo Im farly sure it doesnt shut you down that hard
and ketp all but a pound of my gains

Havocs My shyt and a 4-5 week cycles the way to go

Hope things turn around for your father
p.s. m1-d is a PH too incase you didnt know
(in airport waiting on flight to go see my dad in hospital)

Those are some excellent results. My results have been mostly some good strength gains. Visually, some size, but mostly strength. BF has stayed pretty much constant, but I have been eating like a horse to make the Havoc allow me to gain some muscle mass. I plan to cut post PCT (cutting not recomended in PCT).

Depending on my final results, I may try the straight 4 weeks next time, but I have been pleased with no sides to speak of so far.
 

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As not to loose all that hard earned muscle for your cut i would recomend leviathan reloaded by palo alto labs and DCP by RPN (ask around its a great stack and nonhormonal)
also heres a great tool worth its bit size in gold (post count not high enough to link Ill PM it to you)
It will calculate your optimal calorie consumption for either a cut or bulk.
make sure you track your calories while using it because then there would be no point.
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As not to loose all that hard earned muscle for your cut i would recomend leviathan reloaded by palo alto labs and DCP by RPN (ask around its a great stack and nonhormonal)
also heres a great tool worth its bit size in gold (post count not high enough to link Ill PM it to you)
It will calculate your optimal calorie consumption for either a cut or bulk.
make sure you track your calories while using it because then there would be no point.
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Thanks for the advice. I will take that in mind when I get to my cut. I found a good stack of DCP and Leviathan but it was out of stock. I have some time though.

I use a program that calculates the calories needed, but I always welcome more information. I didnt get PM but you can just type the name of the site without the www and seperate it from the .com or wehatever and it should lket you post...


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As for log update - I spent the day in hospital wiith my dad, so poor macros :pizza:, no exercise or lifts. This was an off day for Havoc anyway, so I will try to see if there is a
YMCa or something here for tomorow when back on ...

more tomorow or when I can.

ok... late edit.

I couldnt deal with doig nothing, so I ran up and down basement stairs for 30 min. decent cardio and killer on the legs. Much better on "real" stairs than the stepper I occasionally use at the gym.
 
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40mg havoc

At hospital most of day. I didnt get anything done and ate like crap again. I did manager to get a pass to the local YMCA and got a full lifting routine in. Modest gains, as would be expected while "off" but still good considering little sleep, high stress, and poor diet. I did make decent gains on some items, but most were fairly modest.

Took 3 pre w/o so i wasnt taking last dose so close to bed (dose 1 was 530pm.) took 1 after dinner (post w/o) at 830pm. I know its lqate but i didnt want to miss the dose.

Super pumps. I thought my triceps were going to explode and start leaking on the gym floor. I wanted to take picture of the veign in my wrist, but didnt. I think 3 is abou tth emax for pre workout, and that was with no Purple Wraath and no M1D today.

DB Bench 5x85 5x80 6x75 3x75

Incline DB Bench 5x70 4x70 4x65 4x65

BB Pullover 7x95 4x95 6x85

French Press 9x65 7x65 6x65 5x65 (bar was not std ex curl, coulted as 15)

Tricep rope pushdown (weights didnt feel right, I think marks were wrong) ?x12 ?x7 ?x4

DB ohd tricep ext 5x60 5x55 4x50 6x50

Dips BWx6 BWx5

no cardio besides warm up.
 
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I have nt been posting as have been dealing with details and issues related to my dad's passing. Here is a brief catch up and I will take it from here.

Last 2 weeks I have worked out twice with full body abreviated workouts. For first week off I kept very low dose havoc (to spread out my doses I took with me) and ended up doing havoc at 10mg every 3 days, then last week was off entrely. I did take liver detox and Novedex XT every 2nd day (so havoc, then novedex, then nothing for 1 week, then no PH last week).

Honestly, my strength hs gone up. I think the time off PH and lifting has helped mequite a bit. I did noticed though that my cardio has slacked (same workout much harder now). My squat went up 10 lbs today and 1 rep and this was skipped entirely the last 2 weeks.

Weight is now 183, so a gain of about 5 lbs, but the BF went up too by 2% so about 1/2 muscle 1/2 fat on the weight gain. This is thaks to lots of fast food, and everyone being so nice to bring over food in sympathy, not to mention Christmas food in general. I think the gains on weigts worked out well, and the BF should correct itself fairly quick since it was gained so quick.

More soon.
 

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Sorry for your loss, my dad has been gone 6 years.(still sucks)
 
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Yesterday had e increase up to 90's on the dumbells x 3 reps. Reps are a bit low, but I can see marked increase on lifts still. EXCEPT that my incline DB press seems to be stalled (it is post DB press x 4 sets). I had ok energy and I could feel the havoc today. Also had the Purple Wraath and used SLIN by LG pre workout. I think the combo of these plus the LG M1D in the AM made for some great catch-up gains. Not earthshattering, but any gains after a break like I had are great.

Cardio still seems to be a bit hard. Gained too much over christmas!!

I am considering transitioning to a cut for the remainder of my cycle to maintain my gains thus far while cutting out some of the holiday and pre-holiday fat.

No sides, but it seems as if something in my nose feels different - like stuff smells different - musty even. Also, definate pos sex drive - so no negs there either. I think that the rebound from my own test kicking in, plus the start back of the cycle has skyrocketed test. I was going to cut out that week, but didnt due to unforseen events. I am glad I took it now.
 
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OK. Yesterday cardio sucked. my outside right calf muscle keeps hurting and my lower back (very low and near spine) is hurting too. I cant keep my run up and although my weights are most important to me, the idea of going from being able to run 4.5 miles to less than 1 is VERY DEPRESSING!! Also, weighted again this AM and my weight is up to 189. So I have gone from 178 to 189 in the last 1.5 weeks of not lifting. My BF went up 2% wjich would eb about 3-4 lbs, but that would mean an ncrease of like 8 or so lbs of muscle. This doesnt seem right. My lifts have been up, but why all of a sudden, and why the back and calf pains?? I am looking at going on a cut and I am starting today. I just cant let BF keep creeping up and my loss of cardio performance is concerning to me. This is now more important to me since my dad passd froma heart attack... Any ideas/advice are appreciated related to the cardio. 2.5 weeks will always showsome decline in cardio ability, but not like this!!
 
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5omg havoc. Cardio still poor, maintaining and gaining

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 14:56

Ok. took 30mg Havoc pre workout. 1 mg 1 hour prior and 20mg 30 min prior. I had good energy and drive throughout workout. No purple wraath today, and I was able to tell the difference in pump from not hqving the PW. The pump was definately still there, but not nearly as strong. Took another 20mg Havoc 1 hour post workout.

No cardio today. Trying to give leg muscles time to recouperate fully. My right outside calf is still sore and my outside quad on the right side is sore as well. Not sure what I did, but they are bothering me. I can tell my cardio capacity is diminished.

Weight fell 1. lbs since yesterday. I think I have been somehow retaining water related to going off dose for that period of time, and cortisol could be an issue since I didnt have an anti-cort while I was unexpectedly away. I think this is slowly going to recover to a weight within a reasonable gain.

No real sides today. I had some mild pumps in my neck yesterday, and sore nips but that is to be expected as nor, (though I didnt have these in the first 3 weeks to speak of).

30-Dec-08 Fatigue 5
30-Dec-08 Soreness 6
30-Dec-08 Workout Success 8
30-Dec-08 Hours of Sleep 9
30-Dec-08 Stress 5
30-Dec-08 Energy Level 6
30-Dec-08 Mood 6
30-Dec-08 Pump 6
30-Dec-08 Gyno side effects 1
31-Dec-08 Pump 7
31-Dec-08 Gyno side effects 0
31-Dec-08 Fatigue 4
31-Dec-08 Soreness 7
31-Dec-08 Workout Success 9
31-Dec-08 Hours of Sleep 9
31-Dec-08 Stress 5
31-Dec-08 Energy Level 7
31-Dec-08 Mood 7


Home workout today, but at lease I got one in. Limited on lifts i can do and on weight that i can use too (dont have all that much iron at home)

Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 1 10 40.00
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 2 8 40.00
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 3 5 40.00
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 4 4 40.00
Arms Dumbell Shoulder Press 5 6 35.00
Shoulders Lateral Raise 1 7 35.00
Shoulders Lateral Raise 2 6 35.00
Shoulders Lateral Raise 3 4 35.00
Shoulders Lateral Raise 4 8 30.00
Shoulders Lateral Raise 5 7 30.00
Triceps Overhead EZ br tricep et 1 9 65.00
Triceps Overhead EZ br tricep et 2 8 65.00
Triceps Overhead EZ br tricep et 3 5 65.00
Triceps Overhead EZ br tricep et 4 5 65.00
Triceps Overhead EZ br tricep et 5 4 65.00
Arms Dumbell Triceps Ext 1 5 60.00
Arms Dumbell Triceps Ext 2 4 60.00
Arms Dumbell Triceps Ext 3 4 55.00
Chest Dumbell kickbacks 1 12 15.00
Chest Dumbell kickbacks 2 12 15.00
 
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The usual coctail today. LG M1D in AM (2 pills) then 20mg havoc pre workout and 20 afterwards. I also used the IGF-1 with breakfast before workout and SLIN on the way to gum. I can definately notice the M1D helping me out. I think it cam on a bit slower, but when it is taken now, I can feel it onboard, though it is not as intense as HAVOC, I can take it every day.

gained another 10 lbs on my squat. My legs are growing better that anything else, but chest is good as well. Not quite sure how I am making these gains and still have the belly, but I guess I need to keep on the cut phase I am on. Still made good gains thus far and I am on day 3 of cut. Down from 187 to 184 right now. Weight seems to be quite variable right now, so maybe it will settle down and be easier to track soon.

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Intruction: l7
Start Time: 10:00 AM
Distance: 2.69 miles
Duration: 00:31:00
Pace: 5.21mph
Effort: 7
Cals Burned: 321

Legs Squats 1 6 245.00
Legs Squats 2 4 245.00
Legs Squats 3 7 235.00
Legs Squats 4 5 235.00
Legs Lunge 1 10 90.00
Legs Lunge 2 7 90.00
Legs Leg Curl 1 7 130.00
Legs Leg Curl 2 6 130.00
Legs Leg Curl 3 5 125.00
Legs Leg Curl 4 10 75.00
Legs Leg Extension 1 8 165.00
Legs Leg Extension 2 7 165.00
Legs Seated Calf Raise 1 12 265.00
Legs Seated Calf Raise 2 9 265.00
Legs Seated Calf Raise 3 9 265.00
Arms Barbell Curl 1 7 80.00
Arms Barbell Curl 2 5 80.00
Arms Barbell Curl 3 4 80.00
Arms Barbell Curl 4 5 70.00
Bi's Incline seated DB curl 1
Bi's Incline seated DB curl 2
Bi's Incline seated DB curl 3
Chest Hammer Curl 1 5 40.00
Chest Hammer Curl 2 6 35.00
Chest Hammer Curl 3 5 35.00
Chest Hammer Curl 4 5 35.00
Arms Cable Curl 1 5 62.50
Arms Cable Curl 2 4 62.50
Arms Straight Leg Deadlift 1 200.00
Arms Straight Leg Deadlift 2 200.00
Arms Straight Leg Deadlift 3 200.00
 
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I had an unfourtunate lapse in training of about 2.5 weeks when my father passed away. During that time I was off everything for 1 week. When I came back, my lifts were actually up, decently up too.(for me). The bad side is that I went from running 4.5 miles down to less than 2. My cardio ability has been vastly diminished (even in martial arts class I can tell), as have my runs etc. I gained about 10-15 lbs while I was off and ~2%BF. With the gain, I "feel" like I am retaining water and when I run my leg muscles feel like they are burning like fire after 5 min... even when walking fter my run. I REALLY think this is related to my pulse or the daily M1D, and although I dont want to quit, I dont want to gain 10 lbs of muscle just to have a coronary!...

I really think I should either cut out somehting or just ebd cycle early. I had no problems before I took the break. I did add in M1D and

ON days-4 days/week HAVOC, SLIN, Purple Wraath
daily -LG M1D, IGH-1, multi-vit, cycle sup x2
off days - relora, NOVEDEX XT, cycle sup x1, liv detox

I dont think missed anything. My log link is in signiture and full cycle detail is on page one of log...

Advice on the muscle burn? My shin splints (gone for over 1.5 years) have also started to return and I think that maybe somehing is OVER pumping my leg muscles while running. Most of the pump pain (and burn) is in the frontal leg muscle from where you raise your foot up when bringing foot forward. I know most of my muscles bu I cant think of that muscle's name.
 
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Ok. I am now done with cycle. I will be going through some light PCT. Mostly will be using some AI PCT, the remainder of my AI cycle support, I3C, and Lean Xtreme.

I will try to update the total gains and all soon. Stay tuned.
 
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Out of town at present. Ultimately I gained 6 lbs and 1%BF which is about 2 lbs. End of day I made modest gains in mass, bu strength went up pretty good. I will try to post that when I return home.

Presently on a 2 week hiatus from PH's then plan o start on "somehing else"
(with 1 week inbetween on pulse and 2 weeks or so post, I am pretty much done with PCT as it wasnt really needed anyway.

No sides at all, in fact the boys are as big as ever. Only neg from cycle was a decrease in cardio performance n end (was up at first). I found the week off 1/2 way through to be a good move. I have just + results to report.

Again, I will post strength gains, but will be ending post following that, so anyone with questions, fire away.
 
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Ok. Body fat was up 2% cmpared to start of cycle. Weight gain was originally up to 188 or 10 lbs. I have cut some of this down, but that is the start to finish data. At 177 to start 2% is about 3-4 lbs so I gaines about 7 lbs of LBM.

Starting lifts to left, ending to right. If lift changed I didnt include as I know we need to look at side by side data. I think I was overtraining a bit, oven "on" as I didnt bulk the whole time. I think I may not have been eaing enough many days and I didnt eat clean enough. Note to others: eat a few extra calories, but keep them clean. Also, dont omit the cardio as much as I did, you want gains but clean gains. I worked my squats just 1x per wek and gained 50 lbs on that exeecise vs. mild gains on other lifts with more frequent training. Shows what overdoing it can do, even on ph's.

I will leave this open for a few days and then close it. Ask away if you have questiions.

Biceps/Triceps/Abs

BB Curl 80x4 75x6--->final 80x7
DB Curl 40x5 40x4---->final changed
Cable Curl 57.5x6---->62x5 but last exercise of day now
French Press 75x5 75x4---->
Tricep pressdown 80x4 75x5---->changed
wrist curl 90x5 80x5--->below ommitted or changed
reverse wrist curl 20x10
Roman chair (weighted) 18x19 18x17
cable crunch 87.5x15 87.5x10
Weighted crunches 25x30
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Shoulder/Traps/back(partial)

BB Mil Press 110x6 110x5 114x4
DB Press 55x4 50x6 --- >final 60 x 5
DB lat raise 30x7 30x5 ---final 35x5
BB Shrugs 195x6 195x6---->changed
Upright BB row 95x5 95x4---->changed
Cable row 85x5 85x4----->changed
DB bent row (double) 70x4 65x5
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Chest/Back(partial) Abs

DB bench 75x6 75x5 75x4---->final 90x4
Incline DB bench 65x6 65x5 65x4---->Final 70x5 (I think i was overtraining this one)
dips x BWx9 bwx7 --->final bw x 12
Lat Pulldown 145x6 145x5 145x5 ----changed to chins
Back machine ext 250x12 250x7---->changed exercise
Hyperextension (weighted) 35x8 35x6 --- bw x 25
reverse crunches 40 35 30
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Legs

squats(to parallel) 205x6 205x5 210x5 ---> Final was 250x5 (yes, really)

Leg press machine 295x6 295x5 ----->This exercise was changed
stiff leg dead 175x6 180x6 180x6---->Final 205x8

Stand calf raise (using leg press machine)
405x14 405x14 - this is max machine weight --->405x16

Calf raise machine (life) 210x12 220x12----->Final 265x12
 
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