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Benefits of shorter cycles?

  1.  08-02-2003  03:49 PM
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    Benefits of shorter cycles?


    I'm thinking about doing another PH cycle. I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet, but these are what I'm thinking about.

    1-test/4-AD transdermal
    1-AD/1,4-andro oral
    3-alpha/1,4-andro oral

    Anyway, I usually do 4 on/4 off cycles but I really don't like 6-OXO b/c it's expensive and it makes me breakout. I don't like clomid b/c it turns me into a whiney bitch. If possible, I'd like to just stay away from post cycle therapy. For this reason, I'm thinking about doing 2 on/2 off. Would this prevent the need for post cycle therapy? Also, I don't really feel I make any gains w/in the first 2 weeks of being "on" PH, so would 2 on/2 off be effective at all?

    ps- I will be cutting during whichever PH cycle I choose to do...if I do one. And, I'd rather stay away from Nolvadex, b/c I might be entering a "natural" contest that allows PH.



  2.  08-02-2003  11:19 PM
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    I believe Bow did an experiment and determined that he was capable of making decent gains on 2on 2off cycles ran back to back for a time being. Theres a thread on these boards somewhere that links to his entire experiment thread. Its a very good thread at that. I think the Post cyc meds would be determined by your bodies ability fight the side effects and dosages that your planning on using. Ill see if I can find the thread and post it.

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  3.  08-02-2003  11:24 PM
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    Heres the link, He did one week of clomid in between each cycle. I would probably recommend having Nolva (or clomid) on hand just in case.
    Bows test

  4.  08-02-2003  11:29 PM
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    thanks bro!

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    I'd do the 4 on 4 off with nolva.... makes more sense than 2 on 2 off with nothing, and you won't become a whiny bitch!

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  6.  08-03-2003  11:46 PM
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    yeah I just have to say that is one of the best logs I've ever seen BTW (from Bow), thanks for bringing that one back to the light DB!

  7.  08-04-2003  10:07 AM
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    No problemo mi amigo.

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