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    M-drol/H-drol - Week 1 update


    What's up fellas ?!

    I'm gonna run my first PH cycle since this past spring. Done perhaps 5-6 cycles since, including two runs with M1T, 4 weeks of superdrol @20-30mg/day, and good old Dermabolic's S1+. MAN, I hate myself for not picking up every PH Dermabolics had to offer prior to the '05 PH ban !!! THEY WERE THE BEST !

    Anyway, I've been going au natural since early spring .. NO PH, hormones or anything else . . Ran Epistane - OK, somewhat considered a hormone . .- beginning of this semester, and decided to do another PH run and gain a little LEAN size and perhaps cut up some more. this time around. Doing H-drol/M-drol together; some may say overkill, but I'm gonna give it a go out of curiousity.

    I got my blood-work done 6 weeks after my SD cycle this past spring, and had slightly elevated liver values only. Did blood-work again in August, and everything was within range.



    I started my CEL H-drol/M-drol Monday, November 12th.

    Dosage:
    H-drol - 75 mg/day (spread throughout the day, including one serving prior to working out)
    M-drol - 20mg/day (one in morning, one prior to working out)

    I'm running the following supplements also:

    - Scivation Xtend (4 scoops during workout)
    - Scivation VasoFlow (2 scoops pre-workout)
    **thanks to Nutraplanet for a kick-ass price combo**
    - Controlled Labs White Flood (1.5-2 scoops mixed with Xtend during workout)
    - Cell-Tech (I've had it standing around since last X-mas. Figured, why not? I mix ONE scoop in my post-workout shake)

    - 6 g CLA/day (2-2-2 increments)
    - 20 g fish oil (4-4-4-4-4 -> take with most meals)
    - 16 g MCT oil (8 g morning, 8 g evening)
    - ALA - 300mg * 4 times a day
    - Juice Plus+ (My mom used to work for these and had lots left over. It's basically fiber capsules from vegetables and fruits with some aminos, herbs, etc, in there for general 'internal' health - I take 6 caps * 3 times a day.)
    - AX Perfect Cycle throughout.

    - EAS Whey Protein
    - Nutraplanet's Waxy Maize Starch



    PCT:
    - Inhibit-E
    - Reduce XT
    - Tribulus
    - ZMA

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    Here are my Week 1 Work-out Numbers.

    November 12

    Squats - 135 * 15, 225 * 10, 315 * 10, 365 * 6, 405 * 2 -> DROP 315 * 6 -> DROP 225 * 8 -> DROP 135 * 10 ----->>> TOUGH **** !
    Horizontal Leg Press - 400 * 12, 400 * 12, 400 * 12
    Hack Squats - 270 * 12, 270 * 12, 270 * 12
    One-leg Curl - 50 * 15, 50 * 15, 50 * 15,
    Two-leg Curl - 225 * 20, 250 * 15, 275 * 15, 290 * 12
    One-leg Extensions - 90 * 15, 90 * 15, 90 * 15

    Donkey Calf Raises - 300 * 12, 300 * 12
    Calf Raises - 135 * 12, 135 * 12, 135 * 12

    Weight - 236.8 lbs


    November 13

    OFF - Too much school


    November 14

    Behind Neck Pull-ups - BW * 12, BW * 12, BW * 12, BW * 12
    Standing Behind Neck Press - 135 * 12, 135 * 12, 135 * 12 (Strict, controlled reps - my shoulders are my favorite bodypart, so I'm gonna keep em injury-free)
    Upright Rows - 135 * 10, 135 * 10, 135 * 10
    Seated Cable Rows - 200 * 12, 200 * 12, 200 * 12
    Side Laterals - 30 * 12, 30 * 12, 30 * 12
    Incline Bench Two-arm DB Rows - 80 * 15, 100 * 12, 110 * 8, 120 * 6
    Seated DB Press - 80 * 10, 80 * 10, 80 * 10 (Once again, slow, fluid motion)
    Dumbbell Rows - 125 * 15, 125 * 15, 125 * 15

    Weight - 235.4 lbs


    November 15

    Incline DB Press - 80 * 12, 100 * 10, 110 * 8, 125 * 3
    Incline Hammer Press - 2 plates/side * 12, 3 plates/side * 10, 3.5 plates/side * 8, 4 plates/side * 5 1 forced rep
    Bench Press - 185 * 12, 185 * 12, 185 * 12 (Slow and controlled)
    Flat DB Flyes - 40 * 15, 50 * 12, 60 * 10, 70 * 8 (impressed myself with this last one!)
    Pec-deck Flyes - 150 * 20, 190 * 15, 210 * 12 -> DROP 170 * 8, 230 (Stack) * 12 -> DROP 150 * 8


    Weight - 232.2 lbs.


    November 16 - Today was supposed to be an OFF-day, but I'm helping out a buddy getting into his training again, and he was so psyched from how he felt the past couple days working out with me that he wanted to work out . .

    Dumbbell Curls - 40 * 10, 60 * 10, 70 * 6, 60 * 8
    Machine Horizontal Preacher Curls - 80 * 10, 100 * 4 -> DROP 70 * 6, 80 * 8 -> DROP 50 * 5
    Seated Hammer Curls - 30 * 20, 40 * 15, 50 * 12
    One-arm Spider Curls - 30 * 12, 35 * 10, 40 * 10
    EZ-bar Curls - 70 * 18, 70 * 20, 70 * 20

    Dips - BW * 30, BW * 30
    Rope Pressdowns - 60 * 20, 75 * 15, 90 * 12, 75 * 12
    Overhead DB Extensions - 80 * 20, 100 * 15, 120 * 15, 140 * 15
    Reverse-grip Pressdowns - 25 * 15, 25 * 15
    One-arm Overhead DB Extensions - 30 * 15, 30 * 15

    Weight - 229.6 lbs.
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    how old were you when you were running m1t?? like 17-18..
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    I noticed no change in anything on day 1 and 2.

    Day 3:
    - tired/groggy on and off during the day. I'm not taking any caffeine apart from what may be in my pre-workout drinks, so this could have an effect. Workout was solid though. Lots of heavy weight thrown around - some numbers went up, but I'm handing that to the effects from my pre/during workout drinks. NO appetite ! Libido hasn't changed.

    Day 4:
    woke up looking fuller yet tighter. Felt good. Muscle hardness has increased. Xtend did it's job and I'm not feeling as sore as I ought to be after Day 3's workout ! haha . . A little tired and groggy during the day. No libido change. Had a good chest workout, although energy wasn't all there, my strength was . . and then some ! hmmm !? hah . . the weather is getting cool outside and the idiots at gold's turned down the temp, too, so if I had to fill up my water bottle I'd get 'stiff' in a minute . .

    Day 5:
    still looking full today, but my ab definition is better, and more visible veins on my arm. I notice I keep looking at my arms, cus they just look bigger ! Worked out arms - biceps and triceps. INSANE WORKOUT !!!! My work-out buddy didn't know what to say . . and other buddy's at the gym were telling me my arms looked big as hell and still defined ! Definitely increased strength - check the #s. . I don't lie, and I don't cheat - and I don't JERK the ****in weight, so good form, and my arms took one helluva pounding !
    appetite was down ALL AFTERNOON !!!! Couldn't barely finish one whole chicken breast with some green beans on the side ! TWICE !!!! Any ideas ? H-drol ? M-drol ? No libido change.

    Also, no atrophy, and no acne thus far. Noticed a couple red spots on my stomach a couple hours after my work out, but I think it's just a sweat rash, cus it was gone the next morning . .

    - Pardon the sort of messy log . . I promise my next one will improve !!!
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    Yeah, 18.
    I know it was stupid, but believe it or not, even THEN I knew my sh** about this kind of stuff ! I used Nolva for PCT, and Milk Thistle and Vitrix on cycle.

    I remember receiving the Nolva for my PCT my first M1T-cycle - it said 'not for human consumption' - i was like - WTF ?! Why'd you sell me it then !? hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian View Post
    Yeah, 18.
    I know it was stupid, but believe it or not, even THEN I knew my sh** about this kind of stuff ! I used Nolva for post cycle therapy, and Milk Thistle and Vitrix on cycle.

    I remember receiving the Nolva for my PCT my first M1T-cycle - it said 'not for human consumption' - i was like - WTF ?! Why'd you sell me it then !? hahaha
    Yea i did 2 m1t cycles back in 04........no doubt that sh*t is insane for muscle growth!!!......good luck bro and get huuuuuuuuygee
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    ive got some h drol and m drol sitting on my dresser, ill be watching this thread closely. hope you have a good cycle
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    Thanks fellas !

    I'll be posting my diet tomorrow . . just an fyi . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Yea i did 2 m1t cycles back in 04........no doubt that sh*t is insane for muscle growth!!!......good luck bro and get huuuuuuuuygee
    Hahaha, tell me about it ! I gained like two inches on my face ! Share my experience !? lol . . I've never had bloat like an M1T bloat ! - - - and with just 15 mg/day ! - by Underground Lab (practical 5 mg/cap)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian View Post
    Hahaha, tell me about it ! I gained like two inches on my face ! Share my experience !? lol . . I've never had bloat like an M1T bloat ! - - - and with just 15 mg/day ! - by Underground Lab (practical 5 mg/cap)
    Yea i had some higher power sh*t,and the UG Labs sh#t also...i still have a little but frankly it scares me now that i know more about it. I gained like 18 pounds in 3 1/2 weeks or some sh*t.
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    Day 6:

    - just woke up. Looked lean as HELL today ! Then again, I cut my carbs low in the evening following my workout last night lower than I normally do. . I'm not looking very full though, unfortunately, so I'm gonna make sure to load up on brown rice and other complex carbs today and tomorrow morning, before hitting the gym again on Monday.

    Won't be working out today nor tomorrow .. but tomorrow I'll be doing 30-45 min of cardio along with 30 minutes of abs and calves . .

    NO acne - knock on wood . . No loss of libido (not bragging that I had much of one prior to starting this cycle, but there's been NO change.) No atrophy. No hairloss.

    DEFINITELY having a harder time falling asleep . . this started wednesday night - rolled around in bed for 2 hours before falling asleep every night since ! I seem to want to sleep in forever too . . but who doesn't like sleeping ?! I'm feeling surprisingly energetic today - even after 3 days straight of blasting my way through tons of weight . .

    Body - core - temperature has risen . . Umm . . Probably a result of slightly increased BP, because I notice I get warmer a lot easier . . and sweaty . . Man, this is the reason I bailed on PH's for like 6 months - my sweating tends to get out of sync - and I drench everything I wear . . But, luckily, this is not a constant thing, it honestly seems to follow a couple hours beyond an M-drol/H-drol dosage . . Strange . .

    Any thoughts ?!

    That should be it for now ..
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    Awesome log! I have a few bottles of H and M drol that I'm waiting to use. Can't wait to see how this log turns out.
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    I promised to update ya'll on my diet. It's the same deal every day.

    Meal 1: Protein shake with 50grams of Whey Protein, 8g MCT oil, and one tbs of peanut butter. One instant packet of reduced sugar maple brown oatmeal, mixed with warm water on the side.

    Meal 2: 1/2 cup steamed rice - keeing the carbs low . . 1 cup steamed green beans. 300 gram chicken breast.

    Meal 3: Same as #2

    Meal 4: Same as #2, excluding the rice altogether.

    Meal 5: post workout shake -> 50 grams Whey protein, 1 scoop cell tech, one scoop waxy maize starch (equal to a total of 100 grams of simple sugars/carbs)

    Meal 6: Same as #2

    Meal 7: Pre-bed protein shake. 50 grams whey protein, 1 tbs peanut butter, 8 g MCT oil. (Adds up to ~ than 10 grams of carbs in this)


    Protein = ~350 grams
    Carbs = ~ 200 grams
    Fats = ~ 60 grams (all from CLA, fish oil, MCT oil, and EVOO)
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    Now I got to be honest . . . I've got a lot of Nutraplanet's ALA laying around from when I was doing the UD 2.0 program untill a couple weeks ago, and I am HOOKED ON THEM ! They helped me bring out vascularity like no other when i was cutting . . So i tend to take them with pretty much every meal, even one with my post workout shake . . So to be fair, I'm averaging 5 * 300mg/day of ALA, and I'll be continuing with this dosage untill I see reduced benefits . . So I've got a loooooong time a head of me !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian View Post
    Day 6:

    - Body - core - temperature has risen . . Umm . . Probably a result of slightly increased BP, because I notice I get warmer a lot easier . . and sweaty . . Man, this is the reason I bailed on PH's for like 6 months - my sweating tends to get out of sync - and I drench everything I wear . . But, luckily, this is not a constant thing, it honestly seems to follow a couple hours beyond an M-drol/H-drol dosage . . Strange . .

    Any thoughts ?!

    That should be it for now ..
    I'm the same way....when your body is in overdrive it is very common to generate more heat and thus be a sweaty fukc....lol

    My hands tend to sweat more than anything...cant figure that one out?

    The sweating thing sucks when you have to get dressed up or something.....or with a chick...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian View Post
    Now I got to be honest . . . I've got a lot of Nutraplanet's ALA laying around from when I was doing the UD 2.0 program untill a couple weeks ago, and I am HOOKED ON THEM ! They helped me bring out vascularity like no other when i was cutting . . So i tend to take them with pretty much every meal, even one with my post workout shake . . So to be fair, I'm averaging 5 * 300mg/day of ALA, and I'll be continuing with this dosage untill I see reduced benefits . . So I've got a loooooong time a head of me !
    you're not getting hypo taking that ALA when some of your meals are low carb?

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    Here are my pics from Last Spring. First pic is from the very end of February. Then again in April. Notice the severe lack of separation, definition and the fugly bloat ! HAHAH
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    holy crap you leaned up nice!! You take any stims,thermogenics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    I'm the same way....when your body is in overdrive it is very common to generate more heat and thus be a sweaty fukc....lol

    My hands tend to sweat more than anything...cant figure that one out?

    The sweating thing sucks when you have to get dressed up or something.....or with a chick...
    Man, I'm suffering there with you ! My hands are sweating throughout the day, but then if I'm in a stressful situation - perhaps an interview or meeting a prof - it'll be moist as HELL, and the most awkward thing I ever do !!! I hate it ! And my ex hated the sweating part . . I remember one FANTASTIC quote from the last time I ###### her before we broke up a while back; "OUUUUUCH, MY DAMN EYE !!! YOU DROPPED SWEAT IN MY DAMN EYEEEE !!!" It got to the point where my ex was yelling out to her roommate - 'he dripped sweat in my eyeeee !!!' HAHAHAHA
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    freaking huge dont recall you saying your height but your weights around 230-235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian View Post
    . . I remember one FANTASTIC quote from the last time I ###### her before we broke up a while back; "OUUUUUCH, MY DAMN EYE !!! YOU DROPPED SWEAT IN MY DAMN EYEEEE !!!" It got to the point where my ex was yelling out to her roommate - 'he dripped sweat in my eyeeee !!!' HAHAHAHA
    hahah bro been there!!!!!! no joke!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian View Post
    Man, I'm suffering there with you ! My hands are sweating throughout the day, but then if I'm in a stressful situation - perhaps an interview or meeting a prof - it'll be moist as HELL, and the most awkward thing I ever do !!! I hate it !
    Bro im the exact same way...i take some phenibut and it helps. I hate interviews and sh*t like that,it's a very awkward feeling. My body doesn't go from super athlete to normal person very easily.
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    These are all taken within the past two weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    freaking huge dont recall you saying your height but your weights around 230-235
    Sorry bro, forgot. I'm 6'3", 229.4 lbs. as of last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian View Post
    These are all taken within the past two weeks.
    Wow dude looks very impressive!!!
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    any peptides,hgh,igf-1 ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skircus7 View Post
    you're not getting hypo taking that ALA when some of your meals are low carb?

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    YES ! I DO ! And it's an AWFUL feeling ! Man, I got to admit, i ought to reduce the ALA dosage and see if I get similar benefits than my current dosage. Because particularly at night - an hour or two after my post workout shake and - I'll be dizzy and somewhat nauseous, and my hands will be shaking .. So I've always got yogurt, honey and bagels on hand .. LOL
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    super impresive body wow...

    not to sound rude here, but i got a buddy here who is 6'3 and your weight or more then your weight and you look so much bigger. its just interesting how people fillout their boddies...

    you know who im talking about trippynastyy
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    any peptides,hgh,igf-1 ???
    Nope, non of any of the following . . IGF-1 I researched for a looong time, and came close to purchasing, but I backed out when my bud told me about the insanely painful injections he had. To be fair, I also thought it was overrated, and found FEW good reviews about it !

    HGH - I WISH ! i was going to get some beginning of this semester, @1-2 iu/day. Only to get shed some extra fat around my waist. But we all know what 'operation' happened early September . . . But, if I were to find some yellow/blue/grey tops in january for a decent price, I wouldn't hesitate to pick some up.

    you've got any experience ? I realize I'm 21 and all, and I'll be dissed for admitting to that I'd try it, but . . oh well . . I've always been interested in the effects of hGH. My older brother - age 23 - was born with a brain tumor, and upon removal a couple years after, his body lost the capacity to product hGH. He has been taking .5-.8iu injections of hGH every night of his life since he was 7-8 years old ! Anyway, I keep joking with him, and asking what dosage he's at and what $$ he's paying . . His dosage is low - equivalent to ~200iu/year - and it's costing him $13,000/yr. . . . SHIIIIIT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    super impresive body wow...

    not to sound rude here, but i got a buddy here who is 6'3 and your weight or more then your weight and you look so much bigger. its just interesting how people fillout their boddies...

    you know who im talking about trippynastyy

    thanks for the nice words, fellas !

    Last Christmas I maxed out @278.8 lbs. I couldn't fit my clothes, bloated, no conditioning .. All i cared about was increasing the numbers when I stepped on the scale from day to day ! So beginning of this year, I begun contemplating cutting a little bit .. So sometime around March, I begun a couple half-assed diet attempts, etc, and it only went uphill from there as I got more and more familiar with my body and it's reactions to dieting, training, and supplementation.
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    I've only got upper body shots thus far .. Hate showing off my legs, cus in order to show any vascularity, I've got to have something other than a goddamn web-cam when taken from this distance. ANYWAY, I took 18 months off from leg training, and began training them again 7 weeks ago. (don't want to go in to the details). Within two weeks of training them I started seeing improvements, and week by week, my squat and leg press went up drastically. I repped 405 twice the other day, WITH NO BELT, and I've never gotten 405 ONCE before . . Can ya imagine how that felt ?!

    Here's a leg shot from today - I know they've got work to do ! But I LOVE doing legs, so they'll get up there !!

    The second pic is another pic from an hour ago - i like it cus I feel like my upper chest has filled in the past week, and I just look more solid and full.

    I did NO cardio all week - too busy to do a 2nd work out session per day because of school - but i'll be starting abs and cardio tomorrow, and will continue with cardio and abs 4-5 days/week for the remainder of the cycle. Why ? I don't want to risk seeing a layer of water over my abs within the end of week 1. Haha
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    And a back shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian View Post
    Nope, non of any of the following . . IGF-1 I researched for a looong time, and came close to purchasing, but I backed out when my bud told me about the insanely painful injections he had. To be fair, I also thought it was overrated, and found FEW good reviews about it !

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    He didn't use it right. You need to draw sterile water after the igf-1 to dilute the sting.I have used a few bottles and it's amazing at preventing atrophy on cycle,and amazing in pct to get things jumpin back real quick....these are the best uses...imo
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    Superdrol from my experience makes cardio almost impossable due to shin,back pumps that are very painfull!!
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    Haha, yeah, I'm worried about those myself . . I'm crossing my fingers that for some weird reason I will not suffer the back pump issue this time around ! HAHA.

    I went to a field and ran sprints around with my dog today for 25 minutes. LOTS of wind sprints - didn't plan on running, but I felt GOOD for some reason . . my sense of well-being in fantastic, for whatever reason, it feels like a fog has been lifted off me these past couple days man. It's strange . . anyway, the running - - - NO shin splints or any other issues thus far - but then again, it's been 6 days. . But being that I'll be getting lots of cardio in starting now, I'll let you know how it all works out for me . . I've gotta work through it however it may hurt, cus it's my mission to perfect my physique this cycle ..
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    Day 7:

    Woke up looking GOOD today - dryer than I have since I stopped my UD2.0 diet! Noticing my stomach - somehow - was tight even if I bent over or turned around . . But I'm SORE - DOMS ? - I'm sore in every muscle in my body. Sort of feel like i did after a 3 hour long football practice in the heat of a Texas day. Also, I got 7 hours of sleep, and I could barely drag my ass out of bed this morning. (if only I didn't have to take a leak, I'd STILL BE sleeping, dammit!) Plus I got a little Beagle puppy who steals my covers when I'm sleeping, so I wake up 2-3 times every night - FREEZING cold - and having to pull my sheets back on me ! HAHA

    I thought I'd be doing high carbs yesterday, but as a result of a somewhat lack or appetite and just not wanting to risk seeing ANY potential water-gain on me untill I hit up my cardio in full, I ended up with a 'meager' 300grams spread evenly in to 6 meals. Yes, 6 MEALS, PLUS two shakes. lots and lots of chicken. Averaged only 50g carbs/meal every 2.5-3 hours, so I was NEVER overly stuffed, only comfortable. Carbs are only from brown rice, oatmeal, a bagel, and I added a banana in one of my shakes. I've decided to cut out ALL peanutbutter from here on out, because I empty those jars like they were a bottle of water ! I bought a two-pack of JIF PB from Sam's Club 2.5 weeks ago, and I'm scraping the bottom of the second one now . . But, I've come to the conclusion that those 15-25 grams of extra fat per day, plus around 10 grams of sugar isn't needed at all. I've got ALL THE healthy fats I could want, and the pb will only wear down on my budget I realized.

    I'm still drowsy, although I woke up an hour ago. I'm considering to throw down a couple AMP or Jet Fuel, but I've been ENTIRELY off STIMS and THERMOS for 10 days now - built up a tolerance to them BIG TIME - and I was hoping I'd be able to deal with no caffeine or stims in me untill I get my Reset AD in. So i guess I just got to be studying my Calculus on a 'natural high,' hahaha . . [the high on LIFE-kind of high]

    Hmm. I dont think there's more to say.

    Side effects: NO ACNE (knock on WOOD !!!! If I can complete this cycle and look lean and dry as hell without pimples, so I can ACTUALLY strut my stuff, I will be forever grateful.) No hair loss. No atrophy. Sex Drive ? Unchanged. (so as low as when i started, LOL)


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    BTW.

    I said I looked dry as hell when i woke up today . . well, it got me thinking, and I thought of what I did last night ..

    I take my daily supplements in the morning, afternoon, and evening. I took them prior to bed with a protein shake and a banana last night. Well, I accidentally took a 600mg ALA instead of the 300mg - they're in the same bag. Well, with 600mg ALA in your system, your body would MOST likely enjoy some sugars or carbs immidiately - i gave myself a meager 30 grams form a banana. So, 90 minutes after I take my supps, I'm still awake in bed - issues falling asleep - been dealing with off and on all semester, so I don't blame my cycle necessarily - and I get nauseous. It kind of snuck up on me, then kicked in to high gear. I was like, UGH, wtf, UGH, and gagged, and just felt ****ing miserable for like 10 minutes. Then I was like, ****, cut my carbs too low with the ALA ! My hands were shaking, and i was just feeling BAD !Dragged my ass out of bed, went to the fridge, picked up my Orange Juice, and brought it back in bed with me .. 5 minutes later, SWEET RELIEF !!!!

    Anyway thought I'd let ya'll know . . Don't **** with the slin ! hahah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian View Post
    BTW.

    I said I looked dry as hell when i woke up today . . well, it got me thinking, and I thought of what I did last night ..

    I take my daily supplements in the morning, afternoon, and evening. I took them prior to bed with a protein shake and a banana last night. Well, I accidentally took a 600mg ALA instead of the 300mg - they're in the same bag. Well, with 600mg ALA in your system, your body would MOST likely enjoy some sugars or carbs immidiately - i gave myself a meager 30 grams form a banana. So, 90 minutes after I take my supps, I'm still awake in bed - issues falling asleep - been dealing with off and on all semester, so I don't blame my cycle necessarily - and I get nauseous. It kind of snuck up on me, then kicked in to high gear. I was like, UGH, wtf, UGH, and gagged, and just felt ****ing miserable for like 10 minutes. Then I was like, ****, cut my carbs too low with the ALA ! My hands were shaking, and i was just feeling BAD !Dragged my ass out of bed, went to the fridge, picked up my Orange Juice, and brought it back in bed with me .. 5 minutes later, SWEET RELIEF !!!!

    Anyway thought I'd let ya'll know . . Don't **** with the slin ! hahah
    damn man, im dying to try some ala, your just using the cheapest stuff right?

    what you mean dont .... with the slin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    damn man, im dying to try some ala, your just using the cheapest stuff right?

    what you mean dont .... with the slin?
    Man, first off, I apologize for not getting back to ya yesterday ! I began replying, and then got lost in the forums ! Haha, You will be getting an answer today, though.

    And yes, apparently ALA is THAT effective . . - at least to me ! I have taken it for the past 6 weeks, and I WILL WITHOUT A DOUBT GIVE IT CREDIT FOR SOME OF MY VASCULARITY along with keeping me lean even on Carb loads. .
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    Well, it was just a joke, really, but basically, if 600mg of ALA gets me shaking cus of a lack of carbs with it, I would never poke myself with slin, then cross my fingers my carb-intake will suffice ! hahahah
  

  
 

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