[Norwegian]

What's up fellas ?!

I'm gonna run my first PH cycle since this past spring. Done perhaps 5-6 cycles since, including two runs with M1T, 4 weeks of superdrol @20-30mg/day, and good old Dermabolic's S1+. MAN, I hate myself for not picking up every PH Dermabolics had to offer prior to the '05 PH ban !!! THEY WERE THE BEST !

Anyway, I've been going au natural since early spring .. NO PH, hormones or anything else . . Ran Epistane - OK, somewhat considered a hormone . .- beginning of this semester, and decided to do another PH run and gain a little LEAN size and perhaps cut up some more. this time around. Doing H-drol/M-drol together; some may say overkill, but I'm gonna give it a go out of curiousity.

I got my blood-work done 6 weeks after my SD cycle this past spring, and had slightly elevated liver values only. Did blood-work again in August, and everything was within range.



I started my CEL H-drol/M-drol Monday, November 12th.

Dosage:
H-drol - 75 mg/day (spread throughout the day, including one serving prior to working out)
M-drol - 20mg/day (one in morning, one prior to working out)

I'm running the following supplements also:

- Scivation Xtend (4 scoops during workout)
- Scivation VasoFlow (2 scoops pre-workout)
**thanks to Nutraplanet for a kick-ass price combo**
- Controlled Labs White Flood (1.5-2 scoops mixed with Xtend during workout)
- Cell-Tech (I've had it standing around since last X-mas. Figured, why not? I mix ONE scoop in my post-workout shake)

- 6 g CLA/day (2-2-2 increments)
- 20 g fish oil (4-4-4-4-4 -> take with most meals)
- 16 g MCT oil (8 g morning, 8 g evening)
- ALA - 300mg * 4 times a day
- Juice Plus+ (My mom used to work for these and had lots left over. It's basically fiber capsules from vegetables and fruits with some aminos, herbs, etc, in there for general 'internal' health - I take 6 caps * 3 times a day.)
- AX Perfect Cycle throughout.

- EAS Whey Protein
- Nutraplanet's Waxy Maize Starch



PCT:
- Inhibit-E
- Reduce XT
- Tribulus
- ZMA

[Norwegian]

Here are my Week 1 Work-out Numbers.

November 12

Squats - 135 * 15, 225 * 10, 315 * 10, 365 * 6, 405 * 2 -> DROP 315 * 6 -> DROP 225 * 8 -> DROP 135 * 10 ----->>> TOUGH **** !
Horizontal Leg Press - 400 * 12, 400 * 12, 400 * 12
Hack Squats - 270 * 12, 270 * 12, 270 * 12
One-leg Curl - 50 * 15, 50 * 15, 50 * 15,
Two-leg Curl - 225 * 20, 250 * 15, 275 * 15, 290 * 12
One-leg Extensions - 90 * 15, 90 * 15, 90 * 15

Donkey Calf Raises - 300 * 12, 300 * 12
Calf Raises - 135 * 12, 135 * 12, 135 * 12

Weight - 236.8 lbs


November 13

OFF - Too much school


November 14

Behind Neck Pull-ups - BW * 12, BW * 12, BW * 12, BW * 12
Standing Behind Neck Press - 135 * 12, 135 * 12, 135 * 12 (Strict, controlled reps - my shoulders are my favorite bodypart, so I'm gonna keep em injury-free)
Upright Rows - 135 * 10, 135 * 10, 135 * 10
Seated Cable Rows - 200 * 12, 200 * 12, 200 * 12
Side Laterals - 30 * 12, 30 * 12, 30 * 12
Incline Bench Two-arm DB Rows - 80 * 15, 100 * 12, 110 * 8, 120 * 6
Seated DB Press - 80 * 10, 80 * 10, 80 * 10 (Once again, slow, fluid motion)
Dumbbell Rows - 125 * 15, 125 * 15, 125 * 15

Weight - 235.4 lbs


November 15

Incline DB Press - 80 * 12, 100 * 10, 110 * 8, 125 * 3
Incline Hammer Press - 2 plates/side * 12, 3 plates/side * 10, 3.5 plates/side * 8, 4 plates/side * 5 1 forced rep
Bench Press - 185 * 12, 185 * 12, 185 * 12 (Slow and controlled)
Flat DB Flyes - 40 * 15, 50 * 12, 60 * 10, 70 * 8 (impressed myself with this last one!)
Pec-deck Flyes - 150 * 20, 190 * 15, 210 * 12 -> DROP 170 * 8, 230 (Stack) * 12 -> DROP 150 * 8


Weight - 232.2 lbs.


November 16 - Today was supposed to be an OFF-day, but I'm helping out a buddy getting into his training again, and he was so psyched from how he felt the past couple days working out with me that he wanted to work out . .

Dumbbell Curls - 40 * 10, 60 * 10, 70 * 6, 60 * 8
Machine Horizontal Preacher Curls - 80 * 10, 100 * 4 -> DROP 70 * 6, 80 * 8 -> DROP 50 * 5
Seated Hammer Curls - 30 * 20, 40 * 15, 50 * 12
One-arm Spider Curls - 30 * 12, 35 * 10, 40 * 10
EZ-bar Curls - 70 * 18, 70 * 20, 70 * 20

Dips - BW * 30, BW * 30
Rope Pressdowns - 60 * 20, 75 * 15, 90 * 12, 75 * 12
Overhead DB Extensions - 80 * 20, 100 * 15, 120 * 15, 140 * 15
Reverse-grip Pressdowns - 25 * 15, 25 * 15
One-arm Overhead DB Extensions - 30 * 15, 30 * 15

Weight - 229.6 lbs.

[TripDog]

how old were you when you were running m1t?? like 17-18..

[Norwegian]

I noticed no change in anything on day 1 and 2.

Day 3:
- tired/groggy on and off during the day. I'm not taking any caffeine apart from what may be in my pre-workout drinks, so this could have an effect. Workout was solid though. Lots of heavy weight thrown around - some numbers went up, but I'm handing that to the effects from my pre/during workout drinks. NO appetite ! Libido hasn't changed.

Day 4:
woke up looking fuller yet tighter. Felt good. Muscle hardness has increased. Xtend did it's job and I'm not feeling as sore as I ought to be after Day 3's workout ! haha . . A little tired and groggy during the day. No libido change. Had a good chest workout, although energy wasn't all there, my strength was . . and then some ! hmmm !? hah . . the weather is getting cool outside and the idiots at gold's turned down the temp, too, so if I had to fill up my water bottle I'd get 'stiff' in a minute . .

Day 5:
still looking full today, but my ab definition is better, and more visible veins on my arm. I notice I keep looking at my arms, cus they just look bigger ! Worked out arms - biceps and triceps. INSANE WORKOUT !!!! My work-out buddy didn't know what to say . . and other buddy's at the gym were telling me my arms looked big as hell and still defined ! Definitely increased strength - check the #s. . I don't lie, and I don't cheat - and I don't JERK the ****in weight, so good form, and my arms took one helluva pounding !
appetite was down ALL AFTERNOON !!!! Couldn't barely finish one whole chicken breast with some green beans on the side ! TWICE !!!! Any ideas ? H-drol ? M-drol ? No libido change.

Also, no atrophy, and no acne thus far. Noticed a couple red spots on my stomach a couple hours after my work out, but I think it's just a sweat rash, cus it was gone the next morning . .

- Pardon the sort of messy log . . I promise my next one will improve !!!

[Norwegian]

Yeah, 18.
I know it was stupid, but believe it or not, even THEN I knew my sh** about this kind of stuff ! I used Nolva for PCT, and Milk Thistle and Vitrix on cycle.

I remember receiving the Nolva for my PCT my first M1T-cycle - it said 'not for human consumption' - i was like - WTF ?! Why'd you sell me it then !? hahaha

[TripDog]

Originally Posted by Norwegian

Yeah, 18.
I know it was stupid, but believe it or not, even THEN I knew my sh** about this kind of stuff ! I used Nolva for post cycle therapy, and Milk Thistle and Vitrix on cycle.

I remember receiving the Nolva for my PCT my first M1T-cycle - it said 'not for human consumption' - i was like - WTF ?! Why'd you sell me it then !? hahaha

Yea i did 2 m1t cycles back in 04........no doubt that sh*t is insane for muscle growth!!!......good luck bro and get huuuuuuuuygee

[AtomSmasher]

ive got some h drol and m drol sitting on my dresser, ill be watching this thread closely. hope you have a good cycle

[Norwegian]

Thanks fellas !

I'll be posting my diet tomorrow . . just an fyi . .

[Norwegian]

Originally Posted by TripDog

Yea i did 2 m1t cycles back in 04........no doubt that sh*t is insane for muscle growth!!!......good luck bro and get huuuuuuuuygee

Hahaha, tell me about it ! I gained like two inches on my face ! Share my experience !? lol . . I've never had bloat like an M1T bloat ! - - - and with just 15 mg/day ! - by Underground Lab (practical 5 mg/cap)

[TripDog]

Originally Posted by Norwegian

Hahaha, tell me about it ! I gained like two inches on my face ! Share my experience !? lol . . I've never had bloat like an M1T bloat ! - - - and with just 15 mg/day ! - by Underground Lab (practical 5 mg/cap)

Yea i had some higher power sh*t,and the UG Labs sh#t also...i still have a little but frankly it scares me now that i know more about it. I gained like 18 pounds in 3 1/2 weeks or some sh*t.

[Norwegian]

Day 6:

- just woke up. Looked lean as HELL today ! Then again, I cut my carbs low in the evening following my workout last night lower than I normally do. . I'm not looking very full though, unfortunately, so I'm gonna make sure to load up on brown rice and other complex carbs today and tomorrow morning, before hitting the gym again on Monday.

Won't be working out today nor tomorrow .. but tomorrow I'll be doing 30-45 min of cardio along with 30 minutes of abs and calves . .

NO acne - knock on wood . . No loss of libido (not bragging that I had much of one prior to starting this cycle, but there's been NO change.) No atrophy. No hairloss.

DEFINITELY having a harder time falling asleep . . this started wednesday night - rolled around in bed for 2 hours before falling asleep every night since ! I seem to want to sleep in forever too . . but who doesn't like sleeping ?! I'm feeling surprisingly energetic today - even after 3 days straight of blasting my way through tons of weight . .

Body - core - temperature has risen . . Umm . . Probably a result of slightly increased BP, because I notice I get warmer a lot easier . . and sweaty . . Man, this is the reason I bailed on PH's for like 6 months - my sweating tends to get out of sync - and I drench everything I wear . . But, luckily, this is not a constant thing, it honestly seems to follow a couple hours beyond an M-drol/H-drol dosage . . Strange . .

Any thoughts ?!

That should be it for now ..

[Dr Packenwood]

Awesome log! I have a few bottles of H and M drol that I'm waiting to use. Can't wait to see how this log turns out.

[Norwegian]

I promised to update ya'll on my diet. It's the same deal every day.

Meal 1: Protein shake with 50grams of Whey Protein, 8g MCT oil, and one tbs of peanut butter. One instant packet of reduced sugar maple brown oatmeal, mixed with warm water on the side.

Meal 2: 1/2 cup steamed rice - keeing the carbs low . . 1 cup steamed green beans. 300 gram chicken breast.

Meal 3: Same as #2

Meal 4: Same as #2, excluding the rice altogether.

Meal 5: post workout shake -> 50 grams Whey protein, 1 scoop cell tech, one scoop waxy maize starch (equal to a total of 100 grams of simple sugars/carbs)

Meal 6: Same as #2

Meal 7: Pre-bed protein shake. 50 grams whey protein, 1 tbs peanut butter, 8 g MCT oil. (Adds up to ~ than 10 grams of carbs in this)


Protein = ~350 grams
Carbs = ~ 200 grams
Fats = ~ 60 grams (all from CLA, fish oil, MCT oil, and EVOO)

[Norwegian]

Now I got to be honest . . . I've got a lot of Nutraplanet's ALA laying around from when I was doing the UD 2.0 program untill a couple weeks ago, and I am HOOKED ON THEM ! They helped me bring out vascularity like no other when i was cutting . . So i tend to take them with pretty much every meal, even one with my post workout shake . . So to be fair, I'm averaging 5 * 300mg/day of ALA, and I'll be continuing with this dosage untill I see reduced benefits . . So I've got a loooooong time a head of me !

[TripDog]

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