"End of the World" Cycle..."P.Borreson/Duchaine" Inspired...Leave the kids at home!!
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07-18-2007 02:56 PM
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"End of the World" Cycle..."P.Borreson/Duchaine" Inspired...Leave the kids at home!!
I decided I'm fixin to run a 8wk "Duchaine/P.Borreson"Inspired High mg Short Run,Its
gonna look something like this:
Day 1-10:Sust 750mg ed/ EQ 100mg ed/Drol 200mg ed
Day11-21:Test E 400mg ed/ EQ 400mg ed/Drol 200mg ed
Day22-32:Test Cyp 500mg ed/ EQ 400mg ed/Drol 200mg ed
Day33-43:T Prop 150mg ed/Tren 150mg ed/Winny 200mg ed
Day44-56:T Prop 150mg eod/Tren 150mg eod/Winny 200mg ed
250iu HCG 2x week throughout
arimidex .5mg eod throughout
Nolv as needed
HCG/Clomid/Nolv post cycle therapy
With some serious cycle support throughout:
Finasteride .5-1mg ED, Inj L-Carnitine 400mg ED, Inj B-12 1,000mcg eod, Cranberry Extract/&Juice,Glucosamine/Chondroitin 1000mg, MSM 1000mg, r-ALA 250mg 2x/day, Green Tea Extract 450mg, Glutamine, Taurine 450mg 2x/day, L-Arginine 450mg 2x/day, Milk Thistle 450mg, Liv-52 250mg 2x/day, Omega 3, 6, 9 EFAs 4000IU 2x/day, zinc 50mg 2x/day, multivit, vit c 500mg 2x/day,and HCG 250IU 2x per week,Hawthorn extract,Saw Palmetto,& Silvex brand Colodial Silver to keep my Immune system up(I've used the stuff for 2 yrs now and havn't got sick)
Gear is brewed w/ EO so its all high mg/ml to keep volume down..Been wanting to do one of these for years now,its time to give it a try,Depending on how my bloodwork looks I may cut it back to 5-6 wks if needed,Keep in mind I'm not reccomending this for anyone to try but I will post a log when I get everything going in a few weeks,I'm also running a 10 day course of antibiotics before beggining the cycle to make sure my system isn't harboring any infections that could pop up.Otherwise refered to as being"Low Grade"
The whole point of this type of high mg short cycle is to be able to keep 5-6g+ gear every week,and keeping the AR receptors SUPER Saturated and allow to open up a third non AR mediated pathway for growth,which duchaine firmply believed in but could not prove before his untimely death,but even more importantly proved by Paul Borreson in his own use/growth and his coaching w/ many top pros at the time,although never 'explained' how exactly this third pathway for growth took place,the numbers/gains were there to back it up .I'm sure your all familiar with most of these old interviews and stuff I'm referencing from.
The idea behind a 5-6 wk cycle of this magnitude was the thought that your really not gonna hurt yourself in 4-5 weeks,and this type of cycle at extremely high mg's was considered to be safer than say a standard 12+wk cycle of standard or even low dose cycles,and that in 5 weeks your body will respond and bounce back much faster/better.I've asked alot of people and heard alot of talk,and I've always been the type to have to learn things the hard way/myself...So I will gladly let you all along for the ride,Also keep in mind my typical cycles are over 2.5g's a week anyways usually so this is not really an extreme step per say .Don't try this at home boys and girls
And Of course I welcome you all trying to talk me out of it,bring it on!
And No this is not a joke.
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07-18-2007 03:55 PM
Lift Heavy
Looks solid. Like the way you have it set up.
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07-18-2007 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
bLacKjAck.
Looks solid. Like the way you have it set up.
yeah,I would have changed a couple things here/there,but I wanna use up what I got
,I'm SO looking forward to this
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07-18-2007 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by
Gixxer82
I will say a little prayer that you don't get the prop pains I got.
nah,I've done countless prop cycles,hit every single muscle head 1,000times I bet.Plus I use Ethyl Oleate and get a Prop thats 250mg/ml,and another secret ingredient,all I'll say is its completely painless
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07-18-2007 11:04 PM
King Kong
Dang bro, cycle looks bad Azz!!!!
Definitely interested in this one
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07-18-2007 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
idunk42
Dang bro, cycle looks bad Azz!!!!
Definitely interested in this one

yeah its pretty much 3 yrs worth of your normal 8 wk cycles wrapped up in a 6-8wk run at Mega-Doses....I'm getting heated just prepping for it
Make no mistake,those are Every day doses,not weekly
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07-18-2007 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
Gixxer82
250 mg/ml, niiice I wish I had that.
Ask around,get your gear EO from now on,well worth it
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07-18-2007 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by
Gixxer82
I thought it was :-/ ...The pain isn't as bad the second shot around. You're gonna grow like plants in the ecuadorian forests. Bear Grylls says 20 feet a year.
Your first prop cycle is a b1tch,but every shot hurts about half as much as the last one,til they barely hurt anymore,I've hit every muscle head with prop prolly 1,000 times,you get past it,just tough it out,I remember my first prop cycle,had days where I couldn't move my arms,lol
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07-18-2007 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by
Gixxer82
Haha, it was just the pits when I couldn't even get comfortable and relax cause my ass was killllling me. Quads weren't so bad cause at least I could sit and get some kind of relief. Ventroglutes rock. Pecs tomorrow are gonna suck I know, I guess i'm just a glutton for punishment haha. ygpm btw.
Go Bi's/Tri's/Delts/Pecs/Lats/Glutes/Quads....thats my 7 day rotation,I've got to where I like bi/tris the best...Just go ahead and "break in" all your muscle heads this prop cycle and the next one will be much easier,I'm to the point where 4-5cc's in a bicep is a breeze,plus there is something to be said for site injections...no matter what you hear
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07-19-2007 07:58 AM
King Kong
Originally Posted by
getswole
Ask around,get your gear EO from now on,well worth it
Just make sure its 98-100% NSF pharm grade.
Alot of sources were using 90% and that **** just eats away at your muscles.
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07-20-2007 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by
getswole
Go Bi's/Tri's/Delts/Pecs/Lats/Glutes/Quads....thats my 7 day rotation,I've got to where I like bi/tris the best...Just go ahead and "break in" all your muscle heads this prop cycle and the next one will be much easier,I'm to the point where 4-5cc's in a bicep is a breeze,plus there is something to be said for site injections...no matter what you hear
4-5cc's in a bi.....
That just sounds like a lot to me...
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07-20-2007 03:34 PM
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More power to ya...The last time I decided to try and gain a ****load of muscle I forgot my joints and tendons had a say in the process as well and they both told me to kiss their ass.
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07-20-2007 09:11 PM
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all i can say is...............wow.
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07-20-2007 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
CryingEmo
all i can say is...............wow.
You should piggyback my cycle and run it w/ me Emo
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07-20-2007 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
getswole
You should piggyback my cycle and run it w/ me Emo

You're out of my league bro. Perhaps one day I could strive to do that. For now I'm still in the experimental stages.
I didn't see Sam-E in your supplement support stack. You gonna add it maybe?
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07-20-2007 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
Travis
4-5cc's in a bi.....
That just sounds like a lot to me...
It is too much for you if thats you in your avatar,this volume comes from yrs of site injections and half a dozen heavy prop/tren cycles,your tissue gets used to it over time
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07-20-2007 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
CryingEmo
I didn't see Sam-E in your supplement support stack. You gonna add it maybe?
Its not a bad idea,My joints have always been in good shape though,never had issues,Glucosamine/Condroitin seems to do me fine.I'm already supp'n so much stuff my piss is gonna look like antifreeze as it is...lol
Plus I already have issues getting to sleep,especially when on 6g test a week,already having to use ambien and sh1t,Sam-e has a tendency to make some people very "alert",not worth it to me.
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07-21-2007 01:53 AM
Banned
Originally Posted by
Gixxer82
Whats hes basically saying is "i'm the man"
Yeah, and I would have to agree with that!
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07-21-2007 04:27 AM
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Me thinks of next cycle lol. That is a great cycle dude i love the idea. I am really really interested in what ends up happening please keep us posted when ya starting? I am curious how you will classify the gains and how maintanable they will be god this will be fun.
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07-21-2007 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
northern
Me thinks of next cycle lol. That is a great cycle dude i love the idea. I am really really interested in what ends up happening please keep us posted when ya starting? I am curious how you will classify the gains and how maintanable they will be god this will be fun.
Oh yeah ,I got another 10 days on antibiotics before I start the cycle...I always suggest a course of at least some amoxicillin before and big cycle.You'd be suprised,alot of times it can even keep the test flu away,to a certain extent..I'll be updating the thread shortly when I start.Along w/ the antibiotics right now I'm priming all my supps and have already increased my calories/protien for the bulk cycle.So none of my gains are going to be from just increased calories at the start,they will be true gains,and running arimidex there shouldn't be alot of water weight.The hardest part is going to be downing enough calories to let all this gear do its thing,I'm gonna strive for 7,000+calories ed...Clean but not too clean,I Like a little' fat in there,makes for better gains.
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