Iron's Havoc/IGF-1/AnabolicPump/"New" PowerFULL Log

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This is the plan to be started early next week.

Week 1:
Havoc 30mgs
Week 2:
Havoc 40mgs
Week 3:
Havoc 40mgs
Week 4 (days 1,2,3):
Havoc 40/40/50mgs
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Week 4 (days 4,5,6,7)
IGF-1 40mcgs ED
Nolva 60mgs
New PowerFULL
Anabolic Pump
CEE
Retain

Week 5:
IGF-1 40mcgs ED
Nolva 40mgs
New PowerFULL
Anabolic Pump
CEE
Retain

Week 6:
IGF-1 40mcgs ED
Nolva 30mgs
New PowerFULL
Anabolic Pump
CEE
Retain

Week 7:
IGF-1 40mcgs ED
Nolva 20mgs
New PowerFULL
Anabolic Pump
CEE
Retain

You guys interested in this? I will be coming off a run of Hyperdrol x2...

I plan to be about 205~7lbs @ like 8 or 9%...
 
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where's your taurine son?

havoc @ 50mg/day sounds like big back pumps to me.

No?
 

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Thats just gonna be my final day...at 40 though, you are probably right...

I have a tub sitting in the cabinet, I guess I'll bust it out.
 
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I hate you PI. That's it.

:D
 
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I'm not sure really. Maybe it's because you're from Jersey?
 

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Understandable...

But I can't keep bringing up the fact that you're from Canada and enjoy hockey.

It's getting boring...

Maybe I should being up the fact that Canada's 2nd language is French...That's worse than the first two things.
 

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Or do you just like my idea that much?
 

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If I were you I would do week 4 completely at 50mg..I just did a cycle of havoc at 4 weeks 30mg/day..gained around 4lbs and strength shot up. Barely any joint pains but I was taking a small dose of xmass to add a little water to joints. Looking back I wish I did 40mg/day all across the board, and 50 for the last week. I'm sure you'll get your 5 lbs
 

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The dosing works out to one full 90 count bottle.
 
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GL man!! Following this one --- wish you the best.
 

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I might have to be substituting something from my stash for the Havoc, if the Havoc doesn't get here by Tuesday...

Sorry, But I'm on a deadline here people...hahahaha
 
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What you got in the stash?
 

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Off the top of my head...SD, PP, TRN, ZOL and P25...

It's not going to be the SD cuz thats going to kickstart something later in th year...I wasn't impressed with Promag...

TRN and ZOL probably won't give me the results I want, plus I was thinking of using them as the other bookend...

So it looks like I might use the old standby...my personal favorite...PheraPlex, I think I still have 3 bottles of the original sitting in ym freezer...

I really haveta go check though...I might be forgetting something.

If thats the case, Phera would be ran at 20/30/30/40 that final 3 days...



No I just need to get a grasp on the AP dosing in regards to the IGF-1 and I should be good to go...

Any ideas?
 
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I'm not really too familiar with the AP :think:

Have you used IGF-1 before? Any reason why you're dosing it the way you are planning (not saying it's wrong, just curious)? Have you thought about maybe using it EOD throughout the cycle and post cycle therapy maybe?

I'm running a cycle, don't know if you saw it...

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/62907-log-sss-exploration.html
 

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AP meaning Anabolic Pump.

I've read a few oppinions on another board about using IGF-1 ED for 4 weeks, pinning post workout in the muscle group worked, and on off days pinning in lagging groups.

This would work very well for me, as I workout 2 days and then take 1 day off...

I was toying with only pinning on workout days though...

What is posted above is jsut a basic outline...The only thing taht was definate was the Havoc...but it seems like even that might change.
 
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I know it's Anabolic Pump, just not familiar w/dosing...

From what I gather IGF-1 receptors get oversaturated w/ ED dosing. Also it's supposed to have awesome synergy w/ androgens (1+1= 1 million;) ), as well as help a ton with post cycle therapy.

I can't wait to start dosing the Epi next week!
 

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I am slow...my bad SS...


Yea, IGF ED should burn receptors but that would be around week 4 or 5...I'll only be running it 4 weeks.
 

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So this is starting tomorrow...a few buddies gave me some good insights...

Thanks DecaDone and SuperSoldier...you're good buds...

And Mullet and USP for helping me with the AP/PF dosing schedule...



The major change is the IGF-1 useage...It will be EOD...immediately post workout.

Out of my current workout, it will be Chest and Back days and then an off day. Chest days I will inject in the pec, Back days, in the lat, and the off day I will choose a lagging body part, most likely quads.
 
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looks good either way you go.... i loved phera to no end and if your lookin for some poundage while adding loads of strength then thats the ticket.... id have to compare Epi to a slightly less strong phera with no sides and no est so a lil dryer but the Zol you got there would go great with the phera and keep you just as dry.. sense of well being is GREAT with both and libido stayed in tact with both, if not increased at first.

looks like a very promising cycle with an apropriate PCT to maintian your gains, GL ill be followin for sure.
 
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hey sorry im late. any reason you went with havoc over epi?
 

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^ exactly...

You should've sent me a bottle.
 

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So...started taking Havoc yesterday...

Need to get in touch with the IGF-1 guys cuz I still haven't gotten it yet...or the slin pins...

Anyways...I ate an entire pint of Ben and Jerry's Vanilla Heath Bar Crunch last night...

I must be PMSing or something.
 

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I don't know where it came from...but all of the sudden, I wanted Ice cream and Toffee...

WTF?!?!?!?!?!
 

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I told the b*tch to pull out...dammit, not again.
 

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So I'm thinking of tweeking my diet again, and pre cooking meals...

I need to find a cheaper market though. I might break down and join costco, but probably not.

I think I'm going to switch too SuperFresh....



And to add a few things, I'm taking like 1.5 scoops of cycle support ED...and I dropped the bulk powders from my supplementation.
 

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Yep.

All I have around are a Trader Joe's, Acme, Genaurdis and a SuperFresh.

They are all expensive as hell, but the Genaurdi's is like 2 seconds from my APT, so I usually go there.
 
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PI, are you taking out BCAA's and CEE?

Long time no talk by the way...

....still no package....:aargh:
 

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Gayness...when are you supposed to start anyways?

I dropped the bulk powders (CEE and BCAAs)...not really sure why though.
 
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..i guess i hung myself out to dry on that one..

I bumped it up a few days..starting the meat and potatoes on may 14th and havoc on the 16th.
 

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Right now, I'm praying my lower back doesn't give ouy while I do SLDL's tonight...

It's been on the edge and I've been resting it. But now that I am actually on something, I kinda haveta give it a go.


edit: But still no squats...
 

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Great workout, my legs feel fantastic.

Either this placebo effect is amazing, or the Havoc is already working. Lets hope for the latter.

Definately need to get the leg press up to a respectable number soon. I've been sitting at 990 for too long...
 

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I decided to do light squats next leg day...everybody need to pray for my back!
 
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I learned in church that your prayers are only answered if you can truly believe in them.
 

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well I know i can squat like in the mid 5's with a really tight belt, but only like 225 without it...

kinda makes you think.
 
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I've never used a belt. Are they really that much of a godsend?
 

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when you're back goes out at like 315...yes, yes they are.

I definitely have strengthened my lower back though since the last time it went out...so maybe i'll push it a little without the belt.
 

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