My Trans Test Cycle

**badbart** · 05-09-2003 10:33 AM

Started on 4/20
Height 6'1"
Weight 161
Weeks 1-2 4-AD 666mg a day
Weeks 3-12 Test 233mg a day
Weeks 3-12 Poscar, 20mg Nolva, Saw Pametto
Week 13 100mg Clomid
Week 13-15 50mg Clomid

As of 5/9 I'm 165 with very little water retention or fat. Almost no side effects one zit and I have to wash my forehead in the middle of the day and that’s it. I had more side effects with 4-Ad with no Poscar and no Nolva then test with Poscar and Nolva.

I’m using converted Syno.

Before this cycle I took 3 weeks off of working out and lost 7 pounds.

**scotty2** · 05-09-2003 10:51 AM

Keep us updated, there are very few dermal test journals around.

**Alpha Dog** · 05-09-2003 02:27 PM

I'm curious as to why you are even messing with 4AD on weeks 1-2 if you are going with test on weeks 3-12. Why not just test during the entire cycle?

**badbart** · 05-09-2003 03:04 PM

Originally posted by bow
I'm curious as to why you are even messing with 4AD on weeks 1-2 if you are going with test on weeks 3-12. Why not just test during the entire cycle?

I wanted to compare the effects on my prostate 4-AD vs. Test. 4-AD bothered me my prostate on my last cycle. Funny thing is 4-AD started to bother me this time but when to switching to test and poscar I have had zero problems. I also added Nor-Doil because it converts to less harsh form of a hormone close to DHT. Nor-doil might compete in the prostate with DHT.

**scotty2** · 05-12-2003 04:05 PM

updates please.

**windwords7** · 05-12-2003 04:09 PM

How much proscar and novla daily?

**badbart** · 05-12-2003 04:15 PM

05-12-03

2 weeks of 4-Ad and 1 Week of test and I'm up 8 pounds. No sides. I'm thinking about dropping the Nolva to 10mg a day. What do you guys think? The weight seems dry and my strength has started to go up a little. I can tell the test is starting to kick in. My workout last night was great. I'm upping my calories and am going to see how that helps. I also cut my coffee back to one cup a day. In the past the coffee has really seemed to hinder my weight gain.

**windwords7** · 05-12-2003 04:21 PM

Again, how much nolva and proscar daily???

**badbart** · 05-12-2003 05:44 PM

Originally posted by windwords7
Again, how much nolva and proscar daily???

You posted this question right when I was in the middle of my last response

20mg Nolva
5mg Poscar

I also cut out most of my coffee. My prostate problems are none existent now. I'm actually surprised this combo worked. These drugs do hinder strength and mass but I really have no choice. I want to use steroids, but I'm not sure how they hinder the mass you keep off cycle.
You had problems far worse then me.

**windwords7** · 05-12-2003 05:56 PM

Cool, just curious. I would run less nolva while on for sure.

**badbart** · 05-12-2003 05:58 PM

Do you think 5mg of nolva is too little? Anyone have any other suggestions?

**badbart** · 05-13-2003 07:10 PM

05-13-03
I think I might switch to 1/2 a poscar and see what happens.

**windwords7** · 05-13-2003 09:07 PM

Originally posted by badbart
05-13-03
I think I might switch to 1/2 a poscar and see what happens.

I've also heard of 1 proscar every other day.

**badbart** · 05-16-2003 12:54 PM

05-16-03
As of today I'm going to try Saw Pametto at 1200mg a day and drop the poscar. My diet has been shot to hell so I haven't weight myself for the past couple days, but strengh and endurance has been increasing in the gym.

**badbart** · 05-17-2003 10:49 AM

05-17-03
I have switched to 5 squirts twice a day. I figure 20% aborption is a better number to use. I'm putting on wieght faster now with 5 squirts twice a day.

Weight 171 I've put on about 10 pounds.

**badbart** · 05-22-2003 11:17 AM

05-22-03

I've had stomach problems for the past week. My weight has not increased or decreased. But my arms have grown 3/8" since the start of the cycle and I'm starting to see my abs. I have lost fat and gained muscle.

**badbart** · 06-03-2003 10:44 AM

I quit the cycle! My stomach was bothering me too much and my prostate started bothering me also. I’m 4 days off on clomid and I feel much better now. I’ve only lost about 2 pounds. I gained about 11 pounds but had real trouble eating. I would have gained much more if I could have eaten enough calories.

**badbart** · 06-05-2003 12:27 PM

06-05-03 lost about 3 pounds so far.

My Trans Test Cycle

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