Anabolically Xtreme Cycle - PP/Prostan/1AD/4AD/m14add

[krzna]

Age: 24

Sex: Male

Height: 5ft 9

Weight: 228lbs

BF: ~16.5 - 17

Body : Meso-endo

Measurements:


Neck: 18.2
Chest: 44.5
Bi unflexed: 17.3
Bi flexed: ~18
Waist: 34
Quads: 28.7

Prohormone/Steroid use:
M1T, M5AA, 1AD,4AD, MOHN, 1-T.

Thermos and uncouplers:
ECA/Y/S/Gg
Clen
DNP

Cell Volumisers
Green Bulge/White Blood
CreEthyl Thunder/NitroEvol.
SAN v12
Swole
CEE from BN
NOS Ether etc.

Training and Experience:
As you can see in the pictures, I started off as a weak fatty, 246 lbs @ 40% bf. Went down to around 138lbs at a low bf, left with no strength and virtually no resistance.
Training seriously for around three years now. Just had a very productive one month with Controlled Labs WB/GB stack. Currently enjoying the Nitroevolution product from Omega. I gained 20lbs, no anabolics, just food . ~2% increase in bf but solid strength gains and some pr's.

5 day workout split
Day 1: Chest/ Tris
Day 2: Legs- Glutes and Quads
Day 3: Shoulders/ Neck/ Bi's
Day 4: Off
Day 5: Back- Lower/ Some Lats/ Traps
Day 6: Legs- Calves/ Hams / Abs
Day 7: Off

Then and now
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Cardio:
Bulking is going good, a Fatboy ,I am going to bulk as clean as I can , try to watch the macros. Throw in some swimming etc.

Main Supplements:
AX- Pheraplex
AX-Superdrol
AX-Prostanazol
??- 1AD
Ergopharm- 4AD
DS-m 1 4 ADD
Ibe-Nolvadex
Aventis-Clomid
DS-Rxt

Accessory Supps:
AX-Perfect Cycle
AX-Rampage
Saw Palmetto
CoQ10
Policosinol
Fenugreek
Melatonin
Spiro and Nizoral Blue
Vitamin B complex
b-12 amps
Celery Seed extract/Odorless Garlic
Turmeric Extract
Flax Seed oil


Omega Sports- Nitro Evolution
Controlled Labs - Green Bulge
BN CEE
Isopure Carb Free Post WO
Plenty of antioxidants
Vit C ed 4g
Zinc ed 50mg
Ginko Biloba
Glycerol Monohydrate from NOW
Pyrivuate
Joint support

Current calorics:
My calorics were up to 6000-7000. Now back to a normal 3500 ish. Through this cycle I will be aiming at 5000cals and will up the dosage to 6000 cals towards the end.

Diet:
6 meals to begin, 8 after week 3. Looking at smaller denser meals with complex carbs before workouts.
Water intake hopefully shld be 2-3 gallons.

Macro Split: 45C 40P 15F
Lean beef
Oats/Raisins
Peanut Butter
Tuna
Salmon
Chicken
Eggs
Rice
Lotsa veggies
Prohormone History:
I have responded the best to 1AD/4AD. Personally I some experience using methyls but am not in great favor of using them. I have had some very successful cycles gaining a max of 24lbs in 30days.

Products Stacked and their composition:
Designer Hormones:
PheraPlex - 2-ene - (17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol)
Prostanazol - [3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta tetrahydropyranol
Ph's:
1AD (1-androstene-3beta, 17beta-diol) > target 1-test
4AD (4-androstene-3-beta,17-beta-diol)> target test
m14add -methylboldenone > precursor Methandrostenolone -Dianabol.

Goals:
Mass. Clean and get as much as I can.

Here is the proposed cycle.

Week 0- Perfect Cycle 2x dosage

Week 1 PP - 20mg ed + Pros. 50mg
Week 2 PP - 20mg ed + Pros. 75mg
Week 3 PP - 30mg ed + Pros. 100mg

*********** - First set of testing results

Week 4 PP - 30mg ed + 1AD 600mg + 4AD 900mg
Week 5 1AD 600 4AD 900
Week 6 1AD 900 4AD 1200 - Start letro.
Week 7 1AD 900 m14ADD - 180mg
Week 8 1AD 900 m14ADD - 210mg End Letro.
(Week 9/10 Optional 1AD/m14ADD @ 210mg)
*********** - Second set of testing results

Week 9 Day 1 :Clomid 300mg , Clomid 150mg Nolvadex 40mg R xt 75 Start 7oxo
Week 10 Clomid 75mg Nolvadex 40mg R xt 50 Start Activate Start Clen
Week 11 Clomid 50mg Nolvadex 20mg R xt 25
Week 12 Nolvadex 20mg R xt 25 End Clen End 7oxo Start Yohimbe+Rampage Start Benadryl
Week 15 End Activate End Yohimbe+Rampage Start ECA

*********** - Third set of testing results + Blood work (hopefully)

Notes:
Perfect Cycle will be run all through the cycle.
Letro maybe switched with Aromasin.
Nolva maybe switched with Raloxifene
Propecia is in hand.
A couple of antibiotics also in hand.
Superdrol is in hand but am not using it.

<img src="http://www.anabolicx.com/store/products/pheraplex1_lg.jpg"
<img src="http://www.anabolicx.com/store/products/prostanozol_lg.jpg"

 

[krzna]

Here goes.
Popped in my Nitroevol and GB on an empty stomach.
1hr later I had rice and chicken, not too heavy though.
Lotsa water.

50mg Prostanozol 10mg Pheraplex

30mins later workout.

Today was a decent lat/trap/abs day

Pulldowns
150/200/220 x 10 10(2) 10
Close grips V handle downs
180/210 x 10 x 10
Close grip lat bar
150/190 x 6 x 8

T bar raises w/ v handle
180x 10
270x 10 ( 4 plates )

My lower back was close to being a stone. Overall soreness. Stretched for a bit around 5 mins.
Kept myself hydrated, though I cannot drink very cold water- I fall sick pretty easy.

Straight bar cable pull down
150x 10 .180x6

Dumbell rows
100 x6
120 x6

Trap shrugs at various dumbelll weights.

Ab workout
Crunches in sets of 30 inserted between every 1 min breather between sets.
On set of weighted crunches after workout finish.

Pec decs machine - 150x 15 /180 x 10 - I dunno why i did this

Thoughts: Day 1 was a placebo effect I guess. As you can see, it was'nt the best of workout, passable ,maybe because I did'nt have any oats left, not getting my favourite carbs.
I felt dead thirsty, my throat was parched through the workout. Not sure if this was due to the supps. I have been drinking as much water as I can. I force myself to drink water, cannot drink like 3gal but wish I can. However I will try to keep it close to two gal through the cycle.

Caloric Update:
Meal 1 Rice - 5 scoops Chicken 4 thighs 10 am
Meal 2 PW Shake carbs 11 am
Meal 3 Rice 4 Whole Eggs 3 30pm
Meal 4 Peanut butter 120g 5 30pm
Meal 5 Wheat Spaghettim spam 7 15pm
Meal 6 Beef chunksm and a slice of teriyaki 8 45pm
Meal 7 Milk Shake 60P 50C 10F 11 pm
Meal 8 Chicken Breast 1 30 am

Approx - 6600 cals

Thoughts:
Everything seems ok. I take 4 pills of AX perfect cycle ed. The doses are spilt every 6 hours. Vit C is 4g ed. I think my lipids should be ok, tommorrow I throw in some salmon cooked in fish oil. Ok my waist is growing....no mo' six pack

 

[krzna]

Day 02.

Overslept, my gym closed early.
On an empty stomach I took the GB, NE.
Also on empty stomach 100mg Prostanazol 10mg PP.

Did abs at home 50x10 chair crunches
30 x 10 weighted crunches 30lbs, small iron object that I found outside
Pushups 30x10
Ok am sweating now, hungry as hell. 4 grilled chicken breasts in chilli sauce, yogurt , rice and potatoes.
Will update soon.

Meal update
My lunch
12 scoops of rice
Alta dena Yogurt the 1/2 the tub 150g
3 Grilled chicken breasts
2 whole potatoes cooked in gravy
1 piece 12oz steak
Water
Some one do the math. I gotta go poop

Like I mentioned yesterday, I am feeling increased dryness in my mouth. My prostan is gonna be 200/300/400 as opposed to the original cycle. Will give a complete caloric meal breakup before I crash in aroun 5 hours.
Might go uphill walking to digest this stuff.

 

[ss01]

You mean you gonna take 200, 300, 400mg of prostanozol in a day? I was wondering how high one can go with that. Sides, all. SUBSCRIBED. BTW : most hormones are fat soluble, so you might think of taking them with a tablespoon or two of flax oil - better absorption and getting flax at the same time.........

 

[Grassroots082]

**** man thats a expensive cycle! Good luck.

 

[krzna]

You mean you gonna take 200, 300, 400mg of prostanozol in a day? I was wondering how high one can go with that. Sides, all. SUBSCRIBED. BTW : most hormones are fat soluble, so you might think of taking them with a tablespoon or two of flax oil - better absorption and getting flax at the same time.........

I take in my ph's with peanut butter, the evening dosage with a few tsps of flax.
Prostan for the most seemed underdosed at 75mg, I was following a few logs closely at bb and came to this conclusion. Looks good so far, lets see where it goes. Thx for the tips tho'.

 

[krzna]

**** man thats a expensive cycle! Good luck.

I home brewd the latter half of the cycle. The first part, well I am a tester and work for AX

 

[JonasDavidsson]

that dosage of prostanozol will be wery interesting to follow

 

[texas]

sweet cycle, good luck, i just emailed you too by the way krzna

 

[krzna]

Btw updated dosages for this cycle

Week 1 PP 30mg Prostan 200mg
Week 2 PP 40mg Prostan 300mg
Week 3 PP 40mg Prostan 400mg

Now lets see how this cracks out

 

[krzna]

If anyone of you board members were in hawaii, I would've personally taken you guys out for dinner.
Phera+Prostan is da shiznit

Why .... here is why

Arm day
Curls
35x20 45x15 55x10

Barbell curls
90x15x 2

Skull crushers
95x6x3
125x6x1 (PR) - This is mind blowing, at that angle I could'nt even push it cuz my forearms were pumped, some guy pushed it off my chest and I still went on for 6 reps

One hand cable Pull downs
15/25/35/55x6/6/6/6 superset

25/35/45/55/x6/6/6/6 superset

Rope pull downs + Cable bar bicep curls
45/60x10 10 100/120 x 10x 6

Update:
Everything seems to be popping out, I am that pumped, one of my best workouts ever. Seriously I don't know why I stopped, maybe because I was hungry. I am not tired, hell no. I still threw pushups, sweating like a pig.
Chugging my whey in water atm. Trying to get 1gal in post workout. I did'nt drink anywater during workout, I know stupid move, but damn I was focussed today.
Another thing I want to add is, I am not a stickler for great form but I have started concentrating a lot on form as late. Normally when form goes up, endurance takes a beating, but not today.
I am kinda experiencing what proverbs experienced, not sure if its the same, but its like cold sweat, it trickles down and feels cold, maybe psych.
No sides....none at all at the moment.

 

[JonasDavidsson]

why so high on the pp? i am so interested on that dosage results on pro...

 

[krzna]

Am on Day 5.

Shoulders - Short, sweet, HEAVY!
Iso lateral shoulder press, this is the equipment in the gym
Am not too sure how many of you hit this, but I have found this very effective if form is maintained

Iso - 90 x 20
135x 20
180x 10
220 x 10
260 x 6

I almost got 270, 3 45lb plates either side, but my wrists were so wornout, I could get a decent rep. Next week Im sure I'd get it.

Military
180 x 10
220 x 10

DB One hand laterals
30 x 20
45x 10
50 x 10

Medial delt Flys
30 and 20 superset x 10 x 15
35 and 25 SS x 10 x 15

Trap shrugs
DB various weights superset
shrug machine 270/360 x 10 x 10

No cable work today. Minimal soreness.

Thoughts:
Normally after two days of working out like this I'd be in tears the next day.
My sleep is peaceful. My libido is great. No apparent sides. No oilyness, though I did get a tiny boil under my lower lip.
I left out the nitro's on purpose today, no GB/NE. I do not experience any drastic pump without it. However strength is on the roof atm.
Tommorrow is leg day. I will plan my meals really carefully so that I maintain a llight stomach before I squat.
Also, I weigh myself tommorrow .... :fingersxd

 

[krzna]

Am gonna be deadlifting as hard as I can tommorrow so I decided to take it off today.
Meals have been going good. Close to 3000 cals by 6pm considering my lazy ass woke up only at 11 30 am and my first meal was at 12 15pm.
I am letting myself rest, but I may do some abs later.

Update:
No sides as yet. Like I said before, dead hungry and thirsty. Its not the craving kind of hunger, but its the want to eat anything at sight hunger.
No oiliness at all, I thought the boil was the first sign of more to come but it seems good now.
I am still taking AX perfect cycle 2x a day. I will go easier on the dose from next week.
My libido is sky high, erections are very good. No complaints at all in that department. Only thing is cuz am eating so much, I feel full on my stomach all the time, I prefer feeling light and flexible in bed.
I may start some MSM or Cissus RX after week 3-4.
I will post my final calorics in 4-5 hours.
Thx for reading

 

[krzna]

First off: I am up 10lbs - 224 to ~233 g/t water weight.
My wife has been out of breath lately

Back 2 the basics
Total lower back killer.

SLDL
135x15
305x6
350x1 PR (WOOT!!!! PR), I really have to get my ass a belt, its about time

Iso Y rows
45x2 either side x 10 reps
45x3+25 either side x 6 reps x 2

DB rows
100x 15 x 2 PR for reps, I could've hit more weight but my palms hurt.

Cable Dual pulley rows - barbell wide gripped
190x6
210x3

Preacher curls - Light
50/60 x 10/10


Thoughts:
Very satisfying workout. I really want a stronger back. My back is not all that thick, esp my rhomboids. I would like to concentrate some mass there. I should've hit the T bar rows but I was outta time today.
My SLDL is going up steadily. It reflects a bit on my traps. I have to start training my forearms now, as my functional strength has to increase.


No sides at all
Libido still skyrocketing.
No oilyness
Appetite is really becoming a craze now.

 

[krzna]

Not a great day again, sorry guys I had to go to school, some problems abt my Visa status ... kinda stressed.

Meal 1: oats
Meal 2: oats
Meal 3: oats

I bought the 42oz Quaker whole grain oats yesterday. As of 1am I have finished 1/2 the container in 3 meals every two hours with milk/sugar and splenda. From oats alone my carbs are 385g, 75g of protein excl milk.

Meal 4: Chicken and noodles, I huge bowl
Meal 5: Beans, rice and chicken.
Meal 6: Whey and fruit.

I did screw up a little bit I guess. I drank close to 3/4 gallon of passion fruit juice, nopes not the processed but fresh juice talking to a buddy. I did'nt realise I drank so much. I am not even thinking about counting my calorics atm.

Tommorrow I measure bf increase. Lets see. My pants fit just fine. I did notice my formal shirt looks different, folds near the shoulders. My wife saw this ...and lost hope , which is good, am growing.

 

[krzna]

New dosage as of today
Pheraplex 40mg
Prostanozol 200mg

Doses are going to be divided into 3 splits. Every dose will be ingested with fats, either peanut butter or flax oils or salmon. Lets see what this week has to offer.

 

[krzna]

As promised, here are my thoughts on the Pheraplex after week 1.

Pheraplex is about the cleanest, side free hormonal supplement I have used, at these dosages - 30mg/week 1
Prostanozol at 200mg ed, seems really good in increasing endurance.
Pheraplex and Prostan defenitely increases appetite
I can confidently say there are size gains. I am not at a very low bf to judge water retention so maybe Bammy can fill you guys up.
As far as mass building is concerned, Phera seems to do its job. I would defenitely compare it with m1t, though m1t took more time to kick in, Phera kicked in a bit sooner.
BF wise, I am still at the same, however I have a feeling that I look a little more pumped. Not too sure.

Here are Week 1 Pix -
Top pic Flexed
Lower pic Totally unflexed.

Sorry for the bad pics. All I have atm is a crappy webcam. I will get my camera cable soon.
Please do not make fun of my chest...its pathetic ... i know ...

 

[intv]

Damn, what a detailed log, good job! Your transformation is impressive - you've gone from 138 to 233 in 3 years? Wow!

 

[krzna]

Well I've never used SD, however I have followed so many cycles closely that I think I have a pretty good idea about SD.
Normally SD gives great strength increases in 3-4days in many. Phera does the same.
There is no acne breakout.
No supression at all.
Absolutely no lethargy.
No heavy breathing, jitters or nose bleeds.
No painful pumps

Some of the reasons why I feel phera maybe cleaner than SD

Also,
No hair loss
Again no blood pressure increases
No pumps

Some of the reasons why I feel Phera maybe easier than EMax LMG.

Again, please do not take this as a summary, I am half way through my cycle, I can be at a better position by the end of my cycle to judge.

 

[krzna]

Day 13
The off day did me a whole load of good.

Lats and rear delts

Pullups - assisted
The damn pull up bars were taken down due to repair and all I had was the assist. I decided to play with more reps.
Assist- 35lbs
Wide 10x4
Close 10x6
Med 10x10

Lat pull downs - full width
150x10x2
220x10x1
280x6x1 (PR)
300x3 (PR)

Lat pull downs - close grip
180x10x2
200x10
My palms were burning. I try to maintain as much form on pull downs as I can.

DB rows
75x6x3
90x10x1
120x10x1

Barbell rows
135x10
185x10

Rear delt
Inv pec flys
100x10x10
120x10x4

Close out with forearms on dumbells.

Thoughts
A very long workout day. Endurance and strength is top of the line.
Overtraining is fun, virtually no soreness.
I did'nt put this up as an individual day but

Day 10- I walked 6 miles, 3 of that was uphill
Day 11- I walked 8 miles

My quads felt like stone yesterday. I think tommorrow will be shoulders and hams/calves.

Cycle update
No sides. None to report. The one odd pimple was the only side since the beginning of the cycle. In GG's words I am becoming Beezelbub
There maybe some water retention. I will know only after another week. However at the moment, I am very pleased.
Thirst and perspiration have defenitely increased. Pumps are nothing great on biceps and small body parts. However on the back day there were some painful pumps through the last few sets of SLDL.

 

[krzna]

Updated dosages and main supplement list week 2.
Pheraplex 40mg
Prostanozol 300mg
Perfect Cycle 2x dosage spread evenly through the day
2X Multivitamin
2x Flax oil
4g Vit C
Policosinol
RYR

No CoQ10/GB/NE. I layed off the cell volumisers to see the effect of the AX stack on its own.

 

[krzna]

Meal 1- Rice and beef musubi - (jap. rice cake)
Meal 2- Oats and water ... ewww
Meal 3- 3 Jack pattys
Meal 4- Subway Foot long tuna
Meal 5- Rice and chicken and veggies
Meal 6- Brown rice and eggs
Meal 7 Whey
Meal 8- 1/2 bottle peanut butter.

krzna is back in business ... :zoom:
510g protein 620g carbs

 

[krzna]

Shoulders
I've been sick, well thankgod no body pain, but a cold is really affecting my endurance.

Isopresses
PR time
180x10x2
270x6x1 (pr ching ching )

Military - Front
90x15
180x6x2

Arnolds
45x10x 2

DB Lateral raise
35/45/55 x 10 10 6
Side raises
20/30x 10/`0

Lying side raises ( Inspired by arnold's bb book a friend gave me)
25/30 x max out ... this exercise rocks, my delt looked solid!

Triceps
Pull downs - 150/200/210 x till failure.

Walked back feeling real good about the workout. A running nose so I could'nt drink water in the gym and stupid me forgot my gallon of water . Tommorrow is arm day, lets see how it goes.
Will post my calorics before I sleep.

 

[krzna]

Question. . . ?

Do you take all your support supps @ night?
What's your supp schedule like?

I split my prostan into 3 doses, and make sure I take them in with fats - hormones, fat soluable.

This is approx -
First dose
Prostan + pheraplex + PB or flax
Perfect Cycle and Saw palmetto


Empty stomach
GB+ NE

1.5 hours later carbs and fats followed by
Second dose
RYR + PP + Prostan + Fats



Third dose
PP+Prostan+Perfect cycle+Polic.

Pre bed dose
Multivit+ Vit C + Zinc + Ginko+ Melatonin (sometimes)

This is a very rough setup.

 

[krzna]

I had 15 hours of work today so I decided to take it off, plus my cold is also put my body a bit behind, hopefully I will be back 100% tommorrow.
I weighed myself today good news
Up 17lbs since start of the cycle, 244lbs the bf calculation is tommorrow, considering I fit into my pants fine, I dont think there would be that much of a jump on that department.
Update
Libido is on the roof. I am totally in form.
No oilyness, no nothing, never felt better on a prohormone.
Wish I could go on longer with this product, but I don't want to push it more than this one last week.
Tommorrow I hit arms and traps as scheduled.

 

[krzna]

Close to 1/4-1/2 inch on my traps
Tommorrow is deadlift day again, instead of arms, I want my neck to disappear between my traps

 

[WittyName]

Bizzump whats going on Krzna where you been man?

 

[Grunt76]

B U M P !?

 

[QUICKRYDE]

Hey Krzna

I just came across your log and you didn't mention you were going to start a log over here. :sad:

I find this log to be very interesting and I hope you keep updating the log.

I have six bottles of 1ad and four bottles of 4ad left over from last year and I'm trying to get some idea's how to create a bulk cycle.

 

[gten79]

Hey Krzna long time no see. Listen I'm thinking about doing a similar cycle since the experation date on the 1ad is approaching. I don't have any 4ad left from the ban. I also know the sides would be rough but would you still recomment it? here it goes

Weeks 1-4
PP 10, 20, 20, 30
Prost 75, 100, 125, 150

weeks 1-6
1ad 300,300,300,600,600,600:type:

 

[QUICKRYDE]

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