Is Absolute shutdown possible from one compound for only 2 months

[jakecake]

I've been researching this for awhile and there's alot of contradictions ...can anyone tell me if you can fully go stagnant from a 2 compound two month cycle at regular doses ??

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Yip, trest. So theres at least one.

Actually wouldnt surprise me if it were possible for ANY compound to do this, especially if you have some idiosyncratic biological disposition.

 

[jakecake]

Yip, trest. So theres at least one.

Actually wouldnt surprise me if it were possible for ANY compound to do this, especially if you have some idiosyncratic biological disposition.

Yea I figured trest was a def I'm wondering cause my boy is waiting for his bloods but his nuts are gone like grapes he said man no hang not even when heated he said lol guess he tried to heat them ....he's a healthy male that never had any problems with hormones he did msten and epi and 500 mgs of test

 

[jakecake]

Could've been the test maybe I've herd of this sort of thing before but IDK never did it to me

 

[jakecake]

I'm sorry h drol and mecha not epi msten

 

[jakecake]

Yea I figured trest was a def I'm wondering cause my boy is waiting for his bloods but his nuts are gone like grapes he said man no hang not even when heated he said lol guess he tried to heat them ....he's a healthy male that never had any problems with hormones he did msten and epi and 500 mgs of test

He said there's no erections no libido no sperm and no balls.... the worst I've had was my balls getting smaller twords the end of my cycle

 

[Dma378]

So the thread title question doesn't apply to your friend? Title says 1 compound, he was running 3.

 

[Dma378]

And yes, it's possible. In fact, highly likely. Compound, user and dose dependent.

 

[jakecake]

So the thread title question doesn't apply to your friend? Title says 1 compound, he was running 3.

And yes, it's possible. In fact, highly likely. Compound, user and dose dependent.

Yea I messed the heading up bro my bad but Yea I was curious for him he's really depressed and now is getting anxiety he's on pct so I told him to get all the stuff he needs and blast his balls with some hcg and he should be good

 

[jakecake]

I gotta take more time on my posts lol I've been at work an still am smdh sorry about the confusion bruv

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

It's kind've surprising because many people can be on TRT for years and then come back with a proper restart program, what's his PCT look like?

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

Also H-drol/ Mehcabol have 12-16 hour half lifes... Very long for PH's id wait a week from the end of the cycle to actually start PCT.. that's two high half life PH's... Also, was it a long or short ester test.. Gotta give us more details.. maybe he just needs to wait for everything to clear his system if they body still senses too many androgens it wont re-start.

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

And yes, it's possible. In fact, highly likely. Compound, user and dose dependent.

Dma378 what compounds do you think are most likely to do this? Im running Furaza 4-andro epi andro LGD and halodrol in a month. They're all considered mild and beginner stuff, but im taking both nolva and clmid and exem for an 8 week pct. Just worried because it's my first cycle with that many compounds

 

[jakecake]

It's kind've surprising because many people can be on TRT for years and then come back with a proper restart program, what's his PCT look like?

Well he never got bloods done before hand so IDK how his hormones were in the first place I told him to run just test for his first cycle or even a very mild ph but he wanted quick gains so that's what he got plus some ****ed up endocrine system I'll help him as much as I can but I warned him

 

[jakecake]

Also H-drol/ Mehcabol have 12-16 hour half lifes... Very long for PH's id wait a week from the end of the cycle to actually start PCT.. that's two high half life PH's... Also, was it a long or short ester test.. Gotta give us more details.. maybe he just needs to wait for everything to clear his system if they body still senses too many androgens it wont re-start.

Test c and Yea man he's a idiot bro this is his first cycle ever he had told all of us he did them before

 

[jakecake]

He just told me he's been asking me questions all day so paranoid I told him to stop stressing and wait a few days

 

[jakecake]

I have to see his bloods first he got em done 2 days ago should be threw tomorrow

 

[JG93]

2 months lol, of course...

Explain the cycle and the problems.

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

2 months lol, of course...

Explain the cycle and the problems.

That's only an 8 week cycle... People who do shows do 16 week cycles and recover, I think he's expecting pct to be a breeze and thinking he should feel amazing in it... Also he didn't account for half lives before starting pct. 8 week on cycle permanent shut down is very unlikely with the cycles guys here are doing and recovering fine from

 

[jakecake]

That's only an 8 week cycle... People who do shows do 16 week cycles and recover, I think he's expecting pct to be a breeze and thinking he should feel amazing in it... Also he didn't account for half lives before starting pct. 8 week on cycle permanent shut down is very unlikely with the cycles guys here are doing and recovering fine from

Yea your rite bro I didn't realize he never cycled before he told me an my buddy he did so he could find legit safe stuff Wich is ok I guess but don't lie about cycling it's not like I'm gonna be like **** you get out my face I would've helped him but hey now you gotta deal with it brotha I'm getting him his pct so hell be fine in a few weeks

 

[jakecake]

Thanks for all the advice guys

 

[JG93]

That's only an 8 week cycle... People who do shows do 16 week cycles and recover, I think he's expecting pct to be a breeze and thinking he should feel amazing in it... Also he didn't account for half lives before starting pct. 8 week on cycle permanent shut down is very unlikely with the cycles guys here are doing and recovering fine from

Agreed, I really didn't want get into explaining half life so I left that part out.

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

Okay, I believe I mis interpreted what you were showing. IS SHUTDOWN possible? Yes. What we here say shutdown is when LH and FSH and TEST are around zero. That's shutdown, there's suppression and then there's shutdown. I thought you were saying is he shutdown for life, and my answer would be I highly doubt it with the cycle people are doing well into there 30's and recovering from, if he's in his lower to mid 20's recovery is very likely, but in terms of shut down you can get shut down on 1 compound... Is it permanent... Highly unlikely. Just tell him that anxiety and feeling like **** is a part of PCT for some... It's person dependent you're not supposed to feel amazing in pct... Tell him to toughen up lmao

 

[Dma378]

Dma378 what compounds do you think are most likely to do this? Im running Furaza 4-andro epi andro LGD and halodrol in a month. They're all considered mild and beginner stuff, but im taking both nolva and clmid and exem for an 8 week pct. Just worried because it's my first cycle with that many compounds

Absolute shutdown. But lovely cycle!!! Would not F around with an RC pct.

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

Absolute shutdown. But lovely cycle!!! Would not F around with an RC pct.

I got confused by the term "absolute" shutdown. That makes me think that it'll be forever, shutdown however I expected but not forever lol. Already have pharma CLOMID and NOLVA on hand running an 8 week pct too

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

Absolute shutdown. But lovely cycle!!! Would not F around with an RC pct.

I use ADC ... All day for my pharma needs, g2g for everything really shipping takes a bit though

 

[jakecake]

Okay, I believe I mis interpreted what you were showing. IS SHUTDOWN possible? Yes. What we here say shutdown is when LH and FSH and TEST are around zero. That's shutdown, there's suppression and then there's shutdown. I thought you were saying is he shutdown for life, and my answer would be I highly doubt it with the cycle people are doing well into there 30's and recovering from, if he's in his lower to mid 20's recovery is very likely, but in terms of shut down you can get shut down on 1 compound... Is it permanent... Highly unlikely. Just tell him that anxiety and feeling like **** is a part of PCT for some... It's person dependent you're not supposed to feel amazing in pct... Tell him to toughen up lmao

Hahaha this is exactly what I said to him... you a mind reader bro Lmfao cheers!!

 

[jakecake]

I go both rx and rc bruv ....gotta have em all ,am logs lol sounded like the Pokemon theme song

 

[jakecake]

IDK if I can show the company's prob not tho

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

I go both rx and rc bruv ....gotta have em all ,am logs lol sounded like the Pokemon theme song

At least you know how to cycle man.. Teach your friend so he doesn't have limp dick for life please lmao.

 

[jakecake]

At least you know how to cycle man.. Teach your friend so he doesn't have limp dick for life please lmao.

We're all quite angry with him, but we will help him get back to normal and then he's on his own for a few months man he needs to have the little **** down before he can even think of the big **** I got you young body lol he's a maniac I told him to start up asking advice in here before trying something and to wait at least a year to do his research an so forth

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

We're all quite angry with him, but we will help him get back to normal and then he's on his own for a few months man he needs to have the little **** down before he can even think of the big **** I got you young body lol he's a maniac I told him to start up asking advice in here before trying something and to wait at least a year to do his research an so forth

I mean everybody's first PCT is an experience because you don't know what to expect. So here's his experience. But hey at least now he knows what shutdown vs suppression is. My first ever PCT was just suppression so i made huge gains and felt great.. then my second pct was HORRIBLE. Got some horrible sides, but it's because i went 10 weeks LGD at 16mg which means shut down. So right there i knew the difference between shutdown and suppression. But if you PCT right and take good amount of time off he'll be fine and shouldn't cause any real damage.

 

[jakecake]

I mean everybody's first PCT is an experience because you don't know what to expect. So here's his experience. But hey at least now he knows what shutdown vs suppression is. My first ever PCT was just suppression so i made huge gains and felt great.. then my second pct was HORRIBLE. Got some horrible sides, but it's because i went 10 weeks LGD at 16mg which means shut down. So right there i knew the difference between shutdown and suppression. But if you PCT right and take good amount of time off he'll be fine and shouldn't cause any real damage.

Youngbodybuil for the win

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

Just sell him some of your pharma.. i've never seen that kind of pharma.. Do you get doctor RX'd or you do online RX?

 

[jakecake]

I get local rx lol my boy is the best man most potent **** uve ever had that was nolva lol

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

I get local rx lol my boy is the best man most potent **** uve ever had that was nolva lol

Damn im jelly i have to buy over seas and wait 2 weeks for shipping. Plus $25-30 in shipping lmao.

 

[YoungBodyBuil]

I get local rx lol my boy is the best man most potent **** uve ever had that was nolva lol

PM'd you.

 

[jakecake]

Damn im jelly i have to buy over seas and wait 2 weeks for shipping. Plus $25-30 in shipping lmao.

Dang