90 days of Havoc

[alwaysgaining]

Hey!!! Its been soooooo long but here i am and its day 2! Ok so im doing this as an experiment for my goals and for others info.Dive in..... i will post bare minimum cuz im using my phone any ways ask a question about training or diet and ill tell you.


Havoc 10mg ~ 7am

HGH Power patch 24 hours after limit strength deadlift day once a week.

Cel cycle support everyday

So today is day 2 i will take 10mg every day for 90 days Lord willing! So hang in there with me. Some goals of this

Strength
Muscle mass
Fat loss

Ill get my workouts up here i know you'll like em

AS OF 5/3/16
Weight 210lbs 9.3bf%
Max lifts
Squat 475x1
Deadlift 500x1
Bench 250x1
Weighted Dips 155x1
Weighted Chins 115x1
DB Row 120x3
BB Row 225x5
Military Press 185x1

 

[alwaysgaining]

Hey guys day 9 feel strong and have set a few PRs idk from the havoc. One things for sure endurance!
Ill get some work outs up here
note: increased water intake

 

[alwaysgaining]

5/27/16
Squat Form Form Form low bar
warm up
405x1
410x1
415x1
420x1
425x1
430x1
435x1
440x1
445x1
450x0 fail
455x0 fail

Feeling great guys did alot of over reaching this week now recovering eating up . Strength is up . Serious nitrogen retention and vascularitiy hunger! Endurance is up!

I think this well turn out to be great for the summer keeping lean and and crushing strength goals!

 

[alwaysgaining]

I pretty much lived off eggs today

 

[alwaysgaining]

Feeling good going to kill it!!!

 

[alwaysgaining]

Hey wats up guys strength is up! Set a PR on DB rows 1 i did 2 but one strict!
Also did some stair sprints good time really felt it also 3 with a 40lb weight vest. Also PR on Barbell bent row strict form! 225x5. I feel good all is up some nice aggression in the gym and running today.
Note: now is 3 days in a row ive ate 3 meal break fast lunch dinner. And i feel much better! I like to fast and have got me to 9% bf but i feel now all out bulk im still leaner by the day! I keep stressing then i realize im in this for 90 days lots of time to get huuuuugggggeeee

 

[j.boogie]

I'm following. I have some EPI left and want to do the same thing,

 

[Kellyjr1989]

Hey guys this is alwaysgaing24 now I'm kellyjr1989

Great workout great strength and endurance just great I feel kinda small but look ripped maybe some mid cycle pics are in order?

6/15/16

Deficit deadlift 3"3/4
Warm up
405x1
460x1 PR!!
Deadlift
445x1
425x3
405x6 !
405x6 !
Bent row
225x4
155x12,10
Weighted chins mixed wide grip
25lbx5 perfect form!
5,5 good form
Weighted glut-ham raise 45plate
19,15left leg work
15left leg work
Back to back with
Leg raises
20,20,15

Great work out!! At 45 days I'm going to take 20mg apon waking
Note been eating more carbs I'm trying for some size well got everything else veins definition hardness recovery and libido well it's good....

 

[Kellyjr1989]

Now I have this new account on my tablet I will be on here more it's so easy to type my log I guess I could take a pic of my log book and post it up that would be different eh?

 

[Kellyjr1989]

Yo what's up guys here's tonight's practice felt really strong PRs but left early still very strong!! O!! Side note weight 219!

6/20/16
Deadlift
Warm up
475x3! PR!! Bad form but got em praise Jesus!
Deadlift reps form 3x8 375
375x8!
Deficit deadlift 3 3/4"
375x7 PR!!
DB row
100lbx5 form bad
80lbx10 good form!
80lbx8 form

Left early but feel good, been eating more carbs and it's paying off... Yup libido is fine good there haha.
Definitely bigger a lot of compliments and my pants are tighter so far all good!

 

[Kellyjr1989]

Also maby a little bit of back acne like if you had none now five?? So idk

 

[JamesReef]

May i ask why only 10mg/day? is this to experiment and see if long cycle + small dosing = decent gains?

I have read that many people dose in the 75-100 range, is this not correct? I was looking to run an epi-havoc stack towards end of july. I have ran H drol in the past, somewhere around 2011 or 2012 and loved it

 

[Kellyjr1989]

May i ask why only 10mg/day? is this to experiment and see if long cycle + small dosing = decent gains?

I have read that many people dose in the 75-100 range, is this not correct? I was looking to run an epi-havoc stack towards end of july. I have ran H drol in the past, somewhere around 2011 or 2012 and loved it

Well in the past I did a little run and had great results i.e. I felt good got stronger and leaner while recovering in post cycle.
So I wanted to try 10mg for 90 idk why it just sounded good hahahah anyways. Moving onwards
Now I biked around today and hit the gym deads and squats, weighted 45plateglut ham ,incline 45plate twistys, leg raises and hammer curls feeling great!

 

[jakecake]

I did a 60 day epistane cycle at 70 mgs the whole way threw it was the most amazing time I've ever had and I don't think I can ever trump it even if I tried it again everything fell into place

 

[jakecake]

10 epi for 90 days is weird as **** man whatever... subbed

 

[jakecake]

I'd bump it to 40 for 60 at least

 

[Kellyjr1989]

I did a 60 day epistane cycle at 70 mgs the whole way threw it was the most amazing time I've ever had and I don't think I can ever trump it even if I tried it again everything fell into place

Wow respect! Thats what im thinking 30mgs for the last 30days.. yah great gains so far!

 

[Kellyjr1989]

Hey guys I'm still in this I got 36 days left feeling strong. Got back from a two week vacation got to eat plenty and rode my bike ~60 miles and ran about 20! Look lean. This 30 days will be size and strength I just got 60days of HgH power patch which are awesome! To add to the 10mg at 7 am only missed 4 days.but took the dose when I got home? Yah soooo going crazy not deadlifting and squating. Anyways next time hahahahahaha right next time bumping the dose or right now seriously tho my gains already!!

 

[alwaysgaining]

Yo! Guys recoverd from a sprained ankle right?? Anyways hitting the weights tomorrow ankle feels good been on it all day . I am going to finish this 90 days and weight is good now and look lean. Steady dosing pct will be HgH power patch toremifene 40mg a day with DTP cycle v3

 

[alwaysgaining]

Yo guys i did it yesterday was my last dayi bumped the dose to 20 the last 8 days ill undate more later

 

[alwaysgaining]

8/8/16
Squat 370 5x5
Easy
Deficit deadlift 3/4"
425x6
440x3
Deadlift
350x10easy!!!
Bent Barbell row
155x10,10
245x3


Ok guys I will put together a complete summary tomorrow.
I front loaded DTP v3 10 tabs a day and torem 40mg a day 8days out I just did I feel great pumped and hungry

Pre goals 5/3/16
Strength
Muscle mass
Fat loss

Ill get my workouts up here i know you'll like em

AS OF 5/3/16. Post 8/8/16
Weight 210lbs 9.3bf%. Weight getting it done lol
Max lifts. Max lifts
Squat 475x1 Squat 475x3
Deadlift 500x1. Deadlift testing this week
Bench 250x1 Bench 270x1
Weighted Dips 155x1 Weighted dips testing this week
Weighted Chins 115x1. Weighted chins 120x1
DB Row 120x3. DB Row 130x2
BB Row 225x5. BB Row 265x1
Military Press 185x1. Military press 205x1



Well I love this cycle I took four weeks off the workouts I did were junk and all the running 40miles and biking 60 on vacation I lost 12lbs and gained 15 lbs I'm about 216 will have an exact weight and body fat percentage this week.
Goals
Strength I got stronger!!
Fat loss. I have lost and gained but I am much leaner!
Muscle mass. You be the judge


I'll get some pics up soon
Also going to make a DTP v3 log my post cycle

 

[fdigioia99]

Is the havoc from predator? If so how do you like it and have you used there's before ? I'm asking cause I have some from Predator haven't used it yet. Thanks

 

[alwaysgaining]

Ebay and yes it was legit
RPN Havoc 90ct.

 

[james117]

hey guys. don't mean to hijack this thread but this is the only decent log on a long epi cycle with good results. I'm currently cutting and down to 8% bf weighing 82kg. want to take it to next level and would like opinions on my potential cycle. instead of 90 days ill do 45 days. instead of 10mg ill do 20mg. also id run T3 at 50mg to keep the fat coming off and use epi to try to preserve as much of my muscle mass. pct would be nolva and aromasin and would be using on cycle supports. in a decent deficit atm. cals at 2400.

 

[alwaysgaining]

hey guys. don't mean to hijack this thread but this is the only decent log on a long epi cycle with good results. I'm currently cutting and down to 8% bf weighing 82kg. want to take it to next level and would like opinions on my potential cycle. instead of 90 days ill do 45 days. instead of 10mg ill do 20mg. also id run T3 at 50mg to keep the fat coming off and use epi to try to preserve as much of my muscle mass. pct would be nolva and aromasin and would be using on cycle supports. in a decent deficit atm. cals at 2400.

Hey next time for me 8 weeks 40mg mega dose cycle support and possibly Research grade liver support Eight weeks is a good time to build and maintain mass gained on a cycle compared to four weeks and getting all huge quickly and possibly losing it all . And then go full blown 10-16 with oils anyways

 

[max silver]

hey guys. don't mean to hijack this thread but this is the only decent log on a long epi cycle with good results. I'm currently cutting and down to 8% bf weighing 82kg. want to take it to next level and would like opinions on my potential cycle. instead of 90 days ill do 45 days. instead of 10mg ill do 20mg. also id run T3 at 50mg to keep the fat coming off and use epi to try to preserve as much of my muscle mass. pct would be nolva and aromasin and would be using on cycle supports. in a decent deficit atm. cals at 2400.

I just finished a cycle like your proposed cycle 3 weeks ago, 6 weeks of RPN Havoc at 20mg/day. I hadn't done a bulking cycle for over 10 years, so I had very good results from the cycle. I gained about 10 pounds total, and 3 weeks into pct have only dropped 1 pound, which must have been water weight, as my waistline has shrunk a bit. If you are like me and haven't cycled much recently, then 20 mg a day may be plenty for you.

 

[alwaysgaining]

Yah I haven't and your right

 

[Ricky10]

I just finished a cycle like your proposed cycle 3 weeks ago, 6 weeks of RPN Havoc at 20mg/day. I hadn't done a bulking cycle for over 10 years, so I had very good results from the cycle. I gained about 10 pounds total, and 3 weeks into pct have only dropped 1 pound, which must have been water weight, as my waistline has shrunk a bit. If you are like me and haven't cycled much recently, then 20 mg a day may be plenty for you.

Exactly, dosing has to do with how sensitive your androgen receptors are. People who need the closer to 100 mg range have very little androgen sensitivity and/or have run Epistane a few times in the past, so a slight tolerance issue develops. Subsequent cycles are rarely as effective as the first, especially without increasing the dose.

 

[james117]

I've done 3 cycles of DHEA based stuff like 1-andro and epiandro as test base. My last cycle was 1-andro around 600mg daily for 5 weeks with epiandro and Dermacrine about 18months ago. Gained and kept every bit of 16pounds from all 3 cycles. I'd do andro again but it's way underdosed now and expensive. Anyway would 18 months of being off cycle refresh receptors somewhat?

 

[Ricky10]

I've done 3 cycles of DHEA based stuff like 1-andro and epiandro as test base. My last cycle was 1-andro around 600mg daily for 5 weeks with epiandro and Dermacrine about 18months ago. Gained and kept every bit of 16pounds from all 3 cycles. I'd do andro again but it's way underdosed now and expensive. Anyway would 18 months of being off cycle refresh receptors somewhat?

I know, you have to dose so high that it is really expensive..Ridiculous! Impressive results there though to say the least. 18 months is more than most people ever wait so I would say go for it. By the way, I have heard that Indole-3-Carbinole has a cleansing affect on androgen receptors...just a fun little fact. Also a good reason to take KingsBlood during PCT!