Contro's First cycle ever Epistane log

[contro]

Hi folks new member here been lurking for a month and now that I'm joining the dark side I decided to sign up! Welcome to my cycle log
I am 22 years old
183cm/6'0" tall and weigh 195lbs
My current lifts are: paused Bench press: 175x10 and 235x1
ATG Squat: 325x1
my all time best was 260x1 bench and 365x1 ass to grass(ATG) at a BW of 213lbs a year ago or so
My history:
I got pretty depressed a while ago and stopped lifting and was put on some medication which gave me gyno
anyway I've been back at it for a few months but gains have slowed down as im nearing the point where I was before and now I'm giving myself an extra boost to get bigger and stronger than ever.

My cycle: this is my first time ever messing with any steroids
I got myself a bottle of Epistane from OL and im running it at
30/45/45/45/45/45 day
I am starting today
I lift 4x a week on an upper lower split
Sample routine Upper:
Bench 3x5
Weighted Chins 3x5
OHP 2x8
Upright row 2x8
Shrugs 3x10
Skullcrushers 2x10
Bb curl 2x10
Lateral raises superset with rear lateral raises 2x10

Sample lower body wkt
Squat 3x5
Stiff leg deadlift 3x8
Weighted sit-ups 3x15
Calf raises 5x10
Although this may change.

 

[contro]

Please ask away if you have any questions!

 

[contro]

My goals are to get into better shape And improve my cardio. Im not sure if I should bulk or cut since I wanna both lose fat and gain muscle
My main concern is strength on the bench press and squat and better cardio
I will update this log every other day or so but will post and respond daily
AndI forgot to mention my other suppsand pct which is nolvadex at 20/20/10/10
I already took liver support for 2 weeks beforehand
I will be using protein powder( whey)
My diet rn is whatever my mom makes(Iive with them and commute to college) and some extra protein on wkt days
My mom makes food with meat and a lot of it so my protein needs will be covered
Studies have shown that0.6-0.8 g per lb of Bodyweight is all that is needed for max muscle growth

 

[contro]

So guys should I bulk during my cycle to make the most of it or should I cut(which is inevitably going to be a recomp because I have some muscle memory left to gain and im going to be on a designer steroid so either way I'm going to grow only question is how much) to look as good as possible and to help with my goals of improved cardio and maybe leaning out and losing 2-3% bodyfat
I am around 15% now I will post pics next just need to finish cropping out my face and stuff lol

 

[contro]

Pics incoming

 

[contro]

Here this is me now not quite the same size as I was before I stopped lifting+ gyno lol

 

[unreal89]

I would add a OTC pct with nolvadex like sup3r pct from OL cover all bases

 

[contro]

Yup already got it man running it at 4/3/2/1 or something like that
Welcome to my log bro!

 

[contro]

I would add a OTC pct with nolvadex like sup3r pct from OL cover all bases

Do you have experience with gear? Should I bulk or cut for my first cycle to get the most out of it? Goals are first of all getting stronger then better cardio and then looking better so obviously losing fat and gaining muscle

 

[unreal89]

You should build some muscle before cutting I would clean bulk

 

[contro]

You should build some muscle before cutting I would clean bulk

I agree do you think I can still build my cardio while doing that?

 

[contro]

Ok guys here we go I took my first cap of OL ep15tane which is dosed at 15mg
Will workout later and return with results

 

[contro]

Workout was not bad It felt a little lighter than usual because I knew I was on something even if it technically had not kicked in yet
Benched 190x3x6
Did 3x6 with 20 lbs for a total of 215 lbs on Chins

 

[unreal89]

Orals won't kick in for at least 6 days

 

[unreal89]

What your experiencing is placebo effect

 

[contro]

I know bro it just gave me a little mental boost to be "on" something

 

[contro]

Took 15mg in the morning today will take 15 again at 2-5 pm depending on when I get home, lifting today so let's see how it goes

 

[DonnieM]

Subd. You decided to lean bulk?

 

[contro]

Subd. You decided to lean bulk?

Yessir. nothing new to report. will lift on monday

 

[contro]

OHHH SHIIT this stuff works 190x7,7,6
look pumped as heck, will post pics later

 

[Cgkone]

Subbed to watch progress

 

[contro]

Look MUCH bigger today no? Btw weighed in 201 today. Up 6 lbs which I attribute to higher calories which=full glycogen stores.

 

[contro]

Some weird stuff happening for sure. My body is changing on the daily. Looked much leaner today. Lifts slowly creeping up also.

 

[classyplastic]

subbed! ill be starting 45 days epistane in 30 days.

 

[dbl38]

If you haven't added taurine to this you will want to at about 5g a day for back pumps.

 

[contro]

Yes sir already have. Especially since I do a lot of running

 

[contro]

So I kind of shrank I guess? But look much much leaner this is kind of an up and down cycle for me. Weight is at 202 which is 7 lbs up. Strength is up also

 

[contro]

Nips getting itchy. Going off. Not gonna take any risks

 

[BamBam0319]

Nips getting itchy. Going off. Not gonna take any risks

Do you not have any exemestane or arimidex? Nolva even?

 

[contro]

i have nolva but not gonna run it now but will during PCT because I felt my boobies(lol) and lumps got SMALLER
So maybe the sensitivity was just hormones fluctuating who Tf knows.
Anyway im gonna keep going anyway
TODAY MORNING WEIGHT 208
+13lbs(!!!) and body comp looks better

 

[contro]

Here is me after today's leg workout. My upper body felt pumped after training LEGS!
Pic has a filter because I posted it somewhere else and must have deleted the original because I can't find it but whatever

 

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Here is me after today's leg workout. My upper body felt pumped after training LEGS!
Pic has a filter because I posted it somewhere else and must have deleted the original because I can't find it but whateverView attachment 132718

For reference this was me in January fat as heck 215

 

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Final result

 

[DirtyWilly]

Impressive work! Been lurking in and out of this log, might run Epistane next.

 

[contro]

Yeah i ended up at 222 pounds thats 27 pounds! But remember that i was cutting hard before so i mustve gained atleast 10 pounds of water and glycogen just from going from depleted to bulking

 

[DonnieM]

Nice man! Whats your next goal/plans?

 

[contro]

Take some time off, run the same thing again at a higher dose

 

[contro]

I love epistane, dont see a reason to run anything else tbh. I had no sides except MINOR increase in acne and harder erections and more stamina in bed which is a positive

 

[DirtyWilly]

Just one thing to throw out there... I've never run Epistane, but I've seen a lot of side effects related to rebound gyno and even some complaining of long term loss of libido. That's one of the reasons I've avoided it until I do more homework.

Because Epistane is considered part SERM and reduces estrogen while on it, there appears to be a strong estrogen rebound effect that occurs even after PCT. This would explain the gyno and possibly libido issues. The long term libido one has me concerned a little, I'd like to hear more from others that have run this and if they've had any long term issues.

Just something to keep an eye on.

 

[contro]

I'll let you know what happens libido is great atm. Btw back pic