Prohomones help

[ray2015]

Im currently on my katandrol v3 cycle on my second week. I have had awersome progress but im getting strange pains near liver and in balls. I have stopped and taken pct is this normal????

 

[Jjbballs]

If you had to stop I would take the pct anyway. Some people say it's not necessary but I would take it

 

[ray2015]

I had to stop not because of pain but was worried on why this is happening

 

[Jjbballs]

What do you have for Pct

 

[ray2015]

Forget postcycle

 

[ray2015]

? I want to jump on again but those issues are pushing me back. Does pct actually help or just delay the sides

 

[whitelie]

Were you running any cycle/liver support whilst using it?

Using a serm in pct or only that OTC?

 

[Jjbballs]

I think you need a lot more research before doing a cycle.

 

[ray2015]

I have done a **** load of research. I was running a liver supporr yes i also read a serm wasnt nessesary as katata being so mild? What would you guys reccomend. As im looking to start tommorow again

 

[ray2015]

Also on cycle Mho poppers

 

[yates84]

What brand cycle support are you taking? A pulling sensation between your balls and lower stomach is normal, I believe it's related to testicular aatrophy (I could be wrong) also, keep an eye on your bp because they decided CAFFEINE was a good addition to a ph cycle. A serm is always reccomended for pct

 

[mountainman33]

Just read the profile on Kahana droll, not much going on there. Do you have previous health/pain issues?

 

[ray2015]

Hey mate its by transform muscle research. Yeah it maybe , the is alot of caffeine in it esp the katana stack im using with fat burners as well! Lol

Yeah mate yeah i read it im on the whole cutting stack. It seemed pretty mild. No im 100% healthy thats why it scared the hell outta me. The gains from this **** is unbelievable im re starting tommorow i may put up a log

 

[NurseGray]

Hey mate its by transform muscle research. Yeah it maybe , the is alot of caffeine in it esp the katana stack im using with fat burners as well! Lol

Yeah mate yeah i read it im on the whole cutting stack. It seemed pretty mild. No im 100% healthy thats why it scared the hell outta me. The gains from this **** is unbelievable im re starting tommorow i may put up a log

If it scares you I wouldn't do it. The gains might be good but nothing is worth your health! Back off and find a different product to use!

 

[Jjbballs]

Pct is more important than the cycle. Your not going to keep any gains with bad pct and I wouldn't stop and start like that you should just go through your pct and you should stay off PH for longer then your cycle length+pct length

 

[Kickstart7]

Pct is more important than the cycle. Your not going to keep any gains with bad pct and I wouldn't stop and start like that you should just go through your pct and you should stay off PH for longer then your cycle length+pct length

You've learned well young grasshopper

 

[mixedup]

Pain im balls is most likely from shutdown and them shrinking it's normal

 

[ray2015]

Hey sorry for the delay big time difference here In australia
Yeah I understand pct is the most important part and I should be off longer than my whole cycle length I'm only planning 2 cycles a year.

But I was only on for a week and as it was my first cycle the sides made me overreact. I would like to atleast finish my couple of weeks worth of PH.

I would like a stronger pct as said I'm running estero gem blockers on cycle and liver support amd have transform for my pct. suggestions on smartest way to do this??

Thanks guys

 

[whitelie]

Why don't you try taking one product at a time or at least stacking them. Have one for a week before bringing the next one in etc. At least then you'll know what's giving you the sides and can work out a course of action.

If you want a stronger PCT, get a serm or look at something like Rebirth from BLR

 

[Jjbballs]

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/214859-cycles-beginners-please.html

 

[ray2015]

Yeah for sure , im going to use a serm for Pct. That thread is good cheers Jjbballs

Only problem is getting a serm anyone no reliable websites , real or synthetic versions any difference?

 

[Jjbballs]

 

[ray2015]

So im guessing this is a good synthetic serm?

 

[Kickstart7]

So im guessing this is a good synthetic serm?

What do u mean by real or synthetic?

 

[ray2015]

I have seen some websites saying its a synthetic serm :s we dont have alot available to us in australia

 

[ray2015]

I have re started my cycle today so i need to order a serm asap so it can get here be4 pct

 

[Jjbballs]

Good luck man

 

[ray2015]

Thanks bro i have chucked up a log please follow and reccomend anything you think katandrol v3 cutting cycle log

 

[ray2015]

I will post up be4s and after