Four_Stroke adding Mass/Strength with Trest and DMZ Log

[Four_Stroke]

Background Info
Im 25, 6' 2" and starting weight is 222.5lbs at roughly 15.6%. The goal for this cycle is to increase strength for a powerlifting meet in November and keep fat at bay, so a recomp/lean bulk. I plan to weigh in once a week and do a quick BF % check, with a handheld meter.

Training
5x5 style main lifts with bodybuilding accessory lifts. In a week or so, I will start to do 2-a-day workouts for increased volume.
Mon - Legs/Abs
Tues - Chest
Wed - Arms/Abs
Thurs - Deads/Back
Fri - Shoulders/Calves
Sat - Chest/Arms/Abs
Sun - Off/Cardio

Pre-Load with CEL Cycle Assist and AI Sports Cycle Support for the last four weeks.

Cycle will start on 8/18
12 weeks of Trest Ace oral at 50/50/50/50/75/75/75/75/100/100/125/125
OL TransForm 2ml a day, increase as needed
8 weeks OL Ep15tane at 0/0/0/0/45/45/45/45/60/60/60/60
AND/OR
6 weeks OL Dymethazi9e 0/0/0/0/40/40/60/60/60/60/0/0
Experimenting with another compound for the first 4 weeks

On cycle support - OL Arm1care Pro at 4 caps/day
AI Cycle Support - 2scp/day
OL TUDCA - as needed
Taurine - as needed
Staples - Fish Oil, Multi, Cissus

Adex and Exemestane on hand

PCT
Nolva - 40 for first 3-4 days then 20/20/10/10
Clomi - 75/50/25/25
Test Powder/DAA
OL Super PCT - 4/4/3/2/2/1
OL El1minate - if needed
Creatine
Reduce XT - 0/0/3/3/3/3
EPIQ Test (Boron Citrate)
EvoMuse Defuse/GDA

Possibly OL Ostar1ne starting 2 weeks before PCT at 20mg
Possibly include MyoSynergy, Anabeta OG, USPLabs C20/PM/Prime in PCT or wait until after PCT

I may have missed a thing or two, but any questions or things I may have missed?

 

[Four_Stroke]

Reserved

 

[Nitro41]

In! Everyones running tr3st/dmz.....and mines in the mail on the way! Great motivation.

Sidenote, have you ever run OL super pct before?

 

[Four_Stroke]

In! Everyones running tr3st/dmz.....and mines in the mail on the way! Great motivation.

Sidenote, have you ever run OL super pct before?

Actually I am not using Tr3st, it's Trest Acetate. Hopefully with a slightly longer half life.

No, i have not used OL Super PCT before, but am looking forward to it.

 

[Four_Stroke]

Day 1 on trest, 50mg

Legs
w-up with body weight lunges

Front Squats
135x5
185x5
215x5
245x5, 5, 5, 4

And moved on to accessory lifts. I'll post my main lifts, unless people want to see what else I am doing.

Nothing to report or note yet.

 

[Mr_Irrelevant]

Subbed. I want to see how this Trest Ace oral actually works...

 

[A AesthetiX]

Innnnn 4 gainnnnzzz

 

[DevilDog2136]

Subd

 

[McCrew530]

Subed I am interested to see how this compares to a 12 week cycle of Test

 

[BigRed1974]

Looking forward to this!

 

[Four_Stroke]

Thanks to everyone following so far!

Day 2 recap

Chest
w-up
135x5x2
185x5
225x5, 5, 5, 4FR1
205x5
185x5
155x7
135x5 pause at the bottom

followed with accessory moves

I may be getting a placebo effect, but felt a little more aggression than usual before getting to the gym, hopefully this continues.

 

[McCrew530]

Trest comes on strong and fast so you may actually be feeling something

 

[Four_Stroke]

Trest comes on strong and fast so you may actually be feeling something

I'm hoping so, i need the gainz! lol

 

[Four_Stroke]

Day 3 update
I ended up doing Shoulders instead of Arms today, normally I would hit Shoulders on Friday, but I plan to hit Legs again.

Workout
W-up with DB Lat Raises

Seated OH BB Press
95x5x5
135x5
155x5
175x5, 4
155x5, 6
135x8, 8, 8, 9

And continued with more shoulder exercises.

Nothing new to report, hoping Trest Ace kicks in soon. If I don't notice anything significant by next week, I think I'll order a bottle of OL Tr3st and add a cap for pre-wo. Tonight is Deadlight day!!!

 

[edje007]

Subbed

 

[Four_Stroke]

I haven't forgotten about this guys, just been a little busy so updates are coming.

Thursday Day 4 update
Pullups for w-up
Deads
135x5
225x5
315x5
425x3 (disappointed)
405x1 (really disappointed!!!)

T-Bar Row
18in Rack Pulls
Pendlay Rows
Wide Grip Cable Pulldown

Not feeling Trest yet (obviously after those deads)


Friday Day 5 Update

Legs
ISO Leg Ext w-up
Leg Press - Slow Rep on 10th rep
2platesx20 4plx20 6plx20x4

Leg Curl - emphasize stretch and squeeze
SS W/Leg Ext
Squat Mach (Hack Squat)
Deads

And stumbled out of the gym!


Saturday Day 6
Chest/Arms
Free Motion Cable Fly
Bench
135x5 155x5, 5, 10, 10, 10, 22 135x18

DB Inc Fly
SS W/Squeeze Press

Inc Mag Machine
Dips
Seated Cable Fly

Flex Lewis Giant Tri Set
SS W/Cable Curls

Sunday Day 7
OFF

Note - Havent been feeling the Trest as much as expected. Im getting bloated from my experimental compound though. If I can get my weight values up and not 'feel' Trest, I will still be okay with that. I did order some OL Tr3st to use pre-wo starting on my third week, this will allow me to up the dose for the rest of the cycle. :dance:

 

[Four_Stroke]

I've started doing 2-a-day workouts now, so we'll see how this goes.

Monday Day 8
AM -Back
Pullups
Pendlay Rows
W.G. Cable Pulldowns
T-Bar Row
High Cable Row
H.S. Low Row

PM - Legs
Box Squats
135x5 185x5 225x5 275x5 315x5, 5 355x2 275x10 (not bad)
Stiff Deads
Hack Machine (Low foot placement)
Leg Ext
Leg Curl

Note - Not much to report, wish Trest would be giving me that "On" feeling. But I was okay with how my squats turned out since ive been front squatting for the past few weeks.

Is there anything else you guys want me to post up?

 

[DevilDog2136]

This stack started to shine for me end of week 2. Looking solid as far as routine goes though man. 2 a days is pretty impressive. I tried during my cycle but life was just to busy.

 

[Four_Stroke]

This stack started to shine for me end of week 2. Looking solid as far as routine goes though man. 2 a days is pretty impressive. I tried during my cycle but life was just to busy.

Thanks for the info. I haven't started Epi or DMZ yet though, still hoping trest will be noticeable by the end of this week. My 2-a-days will be Back Monday, Shoulders tuesday, swim/cardio Wednesday and Legs Friday.

I forgot to post my weigh in results. I weighed in on saturday morning before the gym and was at 225.5 and 15.9% BF. I realize a lot of that is water retention from being bloated, but we'll see how this week goes.

 

[DevilDog2136]

Ohh ok well I'd think u should still start feeling the tr3st around week 2-3. U will like DMZ when u add that in for sure though.

 

[Four_Stroke]

Ohh ok well I'd think u should still start feeling the tr3st around week 2-3. U will like DMZ when u add that in for sure though.

Yeah i've only heard good things about DMZ, and thats why I included it for this cycle! Excited to run it in a few weeks.

 

[supermanjow]

Glad you logged it!

 

[Four_Stroke]

Tuesday Day 9
AM Shoulders

DB Lat Raises
Seated OH BB Press
95x10, 10 115x10, 10, 10 135x10, 10, 10, 10
Rear Delts on pec Dec
DB Shrugs
Cable Facepulls

PM Chest
W-Up with Cable Flies
Bench
135x5x2 185x5 225x5 235x4fr1, 4+neg 245x3fr1 205x4 185x5 155x5 135x5 (pause at bottom)
Pronated Inc DB Flies
Wide Mach Press
Free Motion Standing Cable Sweeps

Bench press has improved a little from the previous week, I'm thinking Trest is starting to kick in. I'm going to try 50mg pre-wo before deads tonight, so we'll see what happens.

 

[Four_Stroke]

Wednesday Day 10
Arms/ABs
Flex Lewis Giant Tri Set x3
SSw/Cable Curl (massive pump in bis, Trest???)

Tri Press Mach
BW Dips
EZ BB Curls
Crossbody DB Curls
Weighted Cable Crunch

Not much to report lately. Whating for that 'ON' feeling to kick in.

 

[Four_Stroke]

I will plan to get some updates here hopefully tomorrow and some advice from you guys on my cycle. Hoping noone has given up on this log yet!

 

[BigRed1974]

Still in for the gainz!!

 

[edje007]

Still here bro

 

[Nitro41]

How much trest are you taking preworkout

 

[Olympus Labs]

subbed! nice set up

 

[jaycuda]

I've been missing out, following!

 

[Four_Stroke]

Sorry for the lack of updates fellas, last week was a little more hectic than I would have liked. This is the start of the 4th week for me on Trest Acetate and I have started using Tr3st as well. I am currently dosing 25mg TA once in the morning and once in the pm before working out. I am dosing Tr3st 1 cap pre-workout, so if I workout twice a day, i'll be taking a total of 100mg! I have started taking TransForm as well, just as a preventative measure. I have not noticed any soreness, maybe a little puffiness though. Also last tuesday I had bloodwork done, to see how everything is going. My current weight is 223 at around 15.5% (like i said, last week was a bad week!!!), my cals will also be increasing this week. This week I will be trying to keep more up to date with my main lifts and anything else you guys want.

My main lifts have been increasing, I finally hit 455 raw deadlift last week, and my other lifts are increasing as well! Other than that and receiving comments on my size, I cant really say that i 'feel on' anything. I will be curious to see where my test results come back from my bloodwork. I'll get this weeks workout numbers up as well.

I have gotten A LOT of compliments/comments on my size in the last 2-3 weeks. With that being said, I am debating if I want to run both Epi and DMZ or just one. My goal for the next 8-9 weeks will be to increase strength without much regard to size, so what do you guys recommend/think???

 

[Olympus Labs]

Sorry for the lack of updates fellas, last week was a little more hectic than I would have liked. This is the start of the 4th week for me on Trest Acetate and I have started using Tr3st as well. I am currently dosing 25mg TA once in the morning and once in the pm before working out. I am dosing Tr3st 1 cap pre-workout, so if I workout twice a day, i'll be taking a total of 100mg! I have started taking TransForm as well, just as a preventative measure. I have not noticed any soreness, maybe a little puffiness though. Also last tuesday I had bloodwork done, to see how everything is going. My current weight is 223 at around 15.5% (like i said, last week was a bad week!!!), my cals will also be increasing this week. This week I will be trying to keep more up to date with my main lifts and anything else you guys want.

My main lifts have been increasing, I finally hit 455 raw deadlift last week, and my other lifts are increasing as well! Other than that and receiving comments on my size, I cant really say that i 'feel on' anything. I will be curious to see where my test results come back from my bloodwork. I'll get this weeks workout numbers up as well.

I have gotten A LOT of compliments/comments on my size in the last 2-3 weeks. With that being said, I am debating if I want to run both Epi and DMZ or just one. My goal for the next 8-9 weeks will be to increase strength without much regard to size, so what do you guys recommend/think???

How's libido bud?

 

[Four_Stroke]

How's libido bud?

Honestly haven't noticed anything different.

I was hoping I would be able to tell a difference between the 2 compounds when I added Tr3st, but I haven't noticed anything. Obviously something is working, I just don't have the 'on' feeling i expected.

I do have a weird rash under my right pec and a little on my forehead, not sure wtf that is from.

 

[Four_Stroke]

Finally an update!!!

Day 22 on Trest
Dosed 25mg Trest Ace and 25mg Tr3st at 430am

AM Workout - Back
Pullups - 5 sets
Pendlay Rows - 4 sets 10-12 reps
Close Grip Cable Pulldown - 5 sets of 10-12 reps
T-Bar Row - 5 sets 10-15 reps
Lat Stretch/High Cable Row - 3 sets 12 reps

25mg Trest and 25mg Tr3st dosed at 4-430pm
PM workout - Legs
Leg Ext W-up
Front Squats
135x5
185x5
225x5
245x5
265x5
275x4

Box Squats - 4 sets of 6-8
Static Lunges - 3 sets
Leg Press - 13 sets of 15-20
Stiff Deads - 4 sets of 10
ISO Leg Ext - 5 Sets of 10

So far everything is looking and feeling good. Weights are going up on the main lifts!

Still not sure about this rash on my chest, it might be from TransFrom??? that is the only thing I have changed in the last 2 weeks, is add that to my regimen.

Also, any thoughts on running EPI and DMZ or run only one??? I honestly dont want to weigh too much, buying clothes all the time sucks! I have a feeling I will start with using both and will see how it goes lol

 

[Olympus Labs]

Finally an update!!!

Day 22 on Trest
Dosed 25mg Trest Ace and 25mg Tr3st at 430am

AM Workout - Back
Pullups - 5 sets
Pendlay Rows - 4 sets 10-12 reps
Close Grip Cable Pulldown - 5 sets of 10-12 reps
T-Bar Row - 5 sets 10-15 reps
Lat Stretch/High Cable Row - 3 sets 12 reps

25mg Trest and 25mg Tr3st dosed at 4-430pm
PM workout - Legs
Leg Ext W-up
Front Squats
135x5
185x5
225x5
245x5
265x5
275x4

Box Squats - 4 sets of 6-8
Static Lunges - 3 sets
Leg Press - 13 sets of 15-20
Stiff Deads - 4 sets of 10
ISO Leg Ext - 5 Sets of 10

So far everything is looking and feeling good. Weights are going up on the main lifts!

Still not sure about this rash on my chest, it might be from TransFrom??? that is the only thing I have changed in the last 2 weeks, is add that to my regimen.

Also, any thoughts on running EPI and DMZ or run only one??? I honestly dont want to weigh too much, buying clothes all the time sucks! I have a feeling I will start with using both and will see how it goes lol

DMZ/DermaFURY, DMZ/The 1 better options IMO

 

[jaycuda]

^^

DMZ/The 1 would be awesome for your goals

 

[Four_Stroke]

My problem is I have DMZ and EPI on hand, THE 1 wasn't out yet when I bought everything for this cycle and I'm trying not to buy supps for a while (saving money). But if I were to somehow acquire THE 1, I would definitely do DMZ and THE 1 combo!

 

[Four_Stroke]

I have 2 bottles of EPI I would trade for THE 1 if anyone has any extra.

 

[Four_Stroke]

Day 23

25mg Trest A and 25mg Tr3st at 430am
Shoulders
Seated OH BB 11 sets of 8-10
Rev Cable Fly 4 sets of 10-12
DB Lat Raise 3 sets of 10
DB Shrugs 3 sets 15-20

25mg Trest A and 25mg Tr3st at 4pm
Chest
Bench
w-up
135x5x2
185x5
225x2
275x1 - nice
295x1 - NICE
295xForced Rep
225x5
205x5
185x6
135x10

Dec Bench 4 sets 5-10
Pec Dec 5 sets 12-15
MTS HS Iso Inc Mach 4 sets of 8
Iso Crossbody Inc Mach 4 sets 10
High Cable Fly 6 sets 8-15

Definitely pleased with benching today, the goal was to hit 315, that will happen in a few weeks thou!

 

[Four_Stroke]

Day 24 update

Arms Day
Flex Lewis Giant Tri Set
Rope Ext 20x20x3 25x20
Bent Over Close Rope Ext 20x20x3 25x20
EZ Bar Pressdown 30x20x3 35x20
EZ Bar Underhand 30x20x3 35x20
OH Rope Ext 20x20x3 25x20
Cable Curl 50x20x4

Tri Press Mach
210x10 240x10, 10 255x12 195x10 135x10

Inc DB Curl
20x12x4

Crossbody DB Curl
30x10x3 25x10

Not a bad quick little workout, had a crazy Bi pump!

Cycle Notes - I definitely have some sort of rash on my chest, and I am thinking it is from TransForm. I have stopped applying it to my chest and apply 1 pump once a day to my stomach. Should I stop TransForm and start using exemestane for a few days??? The rash itches like a MOFO and it is around my right nipple as well as the center of my chest and a little on my waist, so i cant tell if it is just the rash or if my nip is sensitive.

 

[Mr_Irrelevant]

Yeah you could probably try the aromasin at 12.5mg eod and see if that works.

 

[Four_Stroke]

Yeah you could probably try the aromasin at 12.5mg eod and see if that works.

Will do brotha, starting it tomorrow!

 

[Olympus Labs]

Day 24 update

Arms Day
Flex Lewis Giant Tri Set
Rope Ext 20x20x3 25x20
Bent Over Close Rope Ext 20x20x3 25x20
EZ Bar Pressdown 30x20x3 35x20
EZ Bar Underhand 30x20x3 35x20
OH Rope Ext 20x20x3 25x20
Cable Curl 50x20x4

Tri Press Mach
210x10 240x10, 10 255x12 195x10 135x10

Inc DB Curl
20x12x4

Crossbody DB Curl
30x10x3 25x10

Not a bad quick little workout, had a crazy Bi pump!

Cycle Notes - I definitely have some sort of rash on my chest, and I am thinking it is from TransForm. I have stopped applying it to my chest and apply 1 pump once a day to my stomach. Should I stop TransForm and start using exemestane for a few days??? The rash itches like a MOFO and it is around my right nipple as well as the center of my chest and a little on my waist, so i cant tell if it is just the rash or if my nip is sensitive.

Any other topical stuff you're using or is it just transform?

 

[Four_Stroke]

Any other topical stuff you're using or is it just transform?

I am only using transform

 

[Four_Stroke]

Day 25 Update

Back day

Pullups
10, 7, 8, 10

Deads
135x5x2
225x5
315x5
365x5
405x5
405x5
425x3
315x8, 10

BB Row 4 sets of 10-12

UG CG Cable Pulldown 4 sets 10-15

Cycle notes. Deads felt very heavy today, and it was hard to breathe, I'm thinking it was just the air quality. I have also stopped using transform and have started with exemestane at 12.5mg EOD. I also had to start taking taurine, never needed it until during deads, the back pump was a bit much and I had to end my session early.

 

[Four_Stroke]

Update time

Friday 9/12 Day 26
Shoulders
FM Rev Cable Fly
4 sets of 15

OH Seated BB Press
w-up
95x5
115x5
135x5
155x5
175x5
185x5
195x5

DB Lat Raise
3 sets of 12

Cable Facepull
4 sets of 15

DB Shrug
130x20x3

Cycle notes. I think I figured out what my rash is from, heat rash. Does anybody have any good remedies to help treat it? Ive been using cortisone-10 whenever it starts to itch. Other than that, my lifts are continuing to improve.

Day 27 and Day 28 were off days. I was going to do cardio on Sunday (day 28) but I lost weight and said screw that.

I weighed myself Sunday morning (9/14), I was at 222 and 15.3%. At first I was a little upset with that, but like I said before, I am looking to increase strength more than my weight and size. If I can continue to increase strength and lose BF, I will be extremely happy!

 

[Four_Stroke]

Day 29

Epi/DMZ added today

AM Back Workout
pullups
Pendlay rows
CG Cable Pulldown
T-Bar Rows
Lat-Stretch Cable Pulldown

PM Legs
Leg Ext w-up

F-Squat
135x5
185x5
225x5
245x5
245x5
265x3 (Really heavy)

Stiff Deads
leg Press
Squat Machine
Leg Ext
Leg Curl

Day 30
Shoudlers in AM
Seated OH BB Press
Rev Cable Fly
DB Lat Raise
DB Shrug


PM Chest Workout
FM Seated Cable Fly w-up
Bench
135x5x2
185x5
225x5
245x5, 5
225x5
185x5x5
135x10x3

DB Inc Fly

Notes- Bench has improved but front squats did not. I still have the rash and it is starting to spread so I have a DR appt today to get it looked at.

 

[Olympus Labs]

good luck with the appointment man

 

[Four_Stroke]

good luck with the appointment man

Doc said it was Poison Ivy. So no reaction with TransForm and no effects from the orals i'm taking. He asked if I wanted oral steroids to help with the rash, OF COURSE! LMAO

Day 31 was supposed to be an Arms day, but I spent it with the lady. It was a good recovery day.

I can't wait for EPI/DMZ to kick in and really get my strength up and hopefully lean out!

I also started taking 4 caps of Tudca along with my 4 caps of Arimacare Pro and 2 scps of AI Cycle Support, the Doc said my liver values were a little high.

 

[BigRed1974]

A day with the lady can be a wonderful thing!
Looking forward to the gains with DMZ/EPI, looking to run DMZ in the future.