Androtest / Tren Ace /Dbol question

[Vengeance801]

Stats are 29 years old 6'5 256 lbs. 12% bf I have ran a sust 250 eq 200 cycle before at 2 pins per week and 500mg test 400 mg eq a week. I got some good gains around 25 lbs. I. Kept damn near all of it too. The cycle was about 6 months ago.

The cycle a friend has recommended to me is androtest as my base and tren ace pinning 1cc of each 2x a week. And throwing Dbol in the mix.

Does this ssound good? What weeks. Would Dbol benefit most? Is my dosing Ok for this? Any help or suggestions with validation not just opinion would be greatly appreciated.

 

[fueledpassion]

Stats are 29 years old 6'5 256 lbs. 12% bf I have ran a sust 250 eq 200 cycle before at 2 pins per week and 500mg test 400 mg eq a week. I got some good gains around 25 lbs. I. Kept damn near all of it too. The cycle was about 6 months ago.

The cycle a friend has recommended to me is androtest as my base and tren ace pinning 1cc of each 2x a week. And throwing Dbol in the mix.

Does this ssound good? What weeks. Would Dbol benefit most? Is my dosing Ok for this? Any help or suggestions with validation not just opinion would be greatly appreciated.

Tren Ace needs to be everyday pinning or at least EOD. Half life isnt long enough for twice weekly.

How much Tren A per cc? 50mg? U need to run at minimum 150-200mg of Tren per week but I wouldnt recommend any more than 400mg per week for first run.

Test as a base. Dbol and Tren will do all the growing. This could really be a short blast for 4 to 6 weeks and still would be beneficial.

 

[Vengeance801]

I was planning on 8-10 weeks and the test ace is 100mg. My goal is to get to 270 and be single digit bf. So I need to gain 15 lbs and lose 4% bf. He also said eq could be a good thing instead of tren ace. What do you think?

 

[fueledpassion]

I was planning on 8-10 weeks and the test ace is 100mg. My goal is to get to 270 and be single digit bf. So I need to gain 15 lbs and lose 4% bf. He also said eq could be a good thing instead of tren ace. What do you think?

EQ is way milder. Can I say this..

Its alot easier to pack on lean mass when ur already lean. So I'd say losing that 4% bf, which is about 10lbs of fat mass, should be priority #1.

Problem is, androgens eventually lose their luster on the body after a while, so running Tren to cut then trying to bulk may prove tough to do.

I'd just run a very low dose of Tren @ 150mg/wk, base line T, and use peps, Alb/Clen and T3 for the first 8 weeks to cut that bf then blast another 4-6 weeks to get the mass. Again, this is just me from what I've learned, studied and experienced.

Weeks 1-8 CUT

Test -E @ 100mg/wk
Tren Ace @ 20mg ED
T3 tapered up
Albuterol tapered up

Eat less, eat WAY less in weeks 7-8. Get ur body desperate for carbs and calories.

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Weeks 9-16 BULK

Test-E @ 500mg/wk
Tren Ace @ 300mg/wk
Dbol @ 15mg ED or a higher dose for 4 weeks
Drop T3
Drop Albuterol
Invite GHS peps or GH

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PCT - 3 months straight.
Clomid at low dose plus a Tbooster and cialis until it works again.

This isnt an exact science either. Basically, use minimal androgen for cutting because u dont need alot to do that and then blast with them after the cut to get that rebound growth. Do some cardio, fasting and carbless periods during the cut to get the body ready to rebound.

 

[Vengeance801]

Why so low on the test? Curious? This androtest is 300mg

 

[fueledpassion]

To keep the body familiar with lower levels of androgens. If u run too much during the cut, u wont respond much better to heavier quantities when u bulk. Therefore, keep the T and Tren to a minimum, which is enough to spare muscle anyways.

Androgens are best used for anabolic activity while staying lean at the same time. I've learned this the hard way over the past few years. Cutting successfully doesnt take much.

If u decided to use EQ, I'd front load with it and run it 8 weeks during the bulk in lieu of the Test and Tren. If u front load, u get the effects immediately.

 

[Vengeance801]

Explain front loading plz