Epistane cut cycle suggestions

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planning to do a Epistane cycle for cut, will be adding it to Ultimate Diet 2.0 that i've been doing for two weeks already (prolly will be almost four weeks by the time i start). i'm 31, 160 at 15%, third cycle. please critique/suggest. thanx.

weeks 1+2: epi elite 30mg, cycle support (ai)
weeks 3+4: epi elite 40mg, cycle support
weeks 5+6: nolva 20mg, post cycle support (ai), zma (cellucor), lean xtreme (ds)
wk 7+8: nolva 10mg, post cycle support, zma, lean xtreme

also plan to use: multi-v, fish oil, and during pct: creatine, hemavol

do u think it would be beneficial to do w/Ultimate Diet 2.0 or stick w/a 'traditional' cutting diet.
 
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5'11 @ 165 and 15% bf? I think your focused on the wrong goal brutha. You're gonna be a lean 145 bs. Which is gonna be twig status at 5'11

To answer your question though, doubt you need to stack compounds at your current size. Especially a couple of methyls. Just seems like a big risk when your current compound can handle the job by itself
 
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5'11 @ 165 and 15% bf? I think your focused on the wrong goal brutha. You're gonna be a lean 145 bs. Which is gonna be twig status at 5'11
i have bad genetics? i got that skinny fat look. all my bf is around my belly. when i try to cut w/o aas, i lose more muscle than fat
 
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Id say proper dieting is lacking...
 
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To answer your question though, doubt you need to stack compounds at your current size. Especially a couple of methyls. Just seems like a big risk when your current compound can handle the job by itself
srry, i meant ultimate diet 2.0 when i typed ud2.0 or did u already kno and i'm jus super konfused?
 
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srry, i meant ultimate diet 2.0 when i typed ud2.0 or did u already kno and i'm jus super konfused?
Lol no I thought you ment ultradrol. IM gonna look that up now
 
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Id say proper dieting is lacking...
yeh ur right, but this ultimate diet 2.0 seems to be working, i've been slowly droppin bf% w/o losing noticable muscle. i'm trying to speed it up and make sure no loss of muscle.
 
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5'11 @ 165 and 15% bf? I think your focused on the wrong goal brutha. You're gonna be a lean 145 bs. Which is gonna be twig status at 5'11

To answer your question though, doubt you need to stack compounds at your current size. Especially a couple of methyls. Just seems like a big risk when your current compound can handle the job by itself
LOL - TWIG STATUS!
 
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5'11 @ 165 and 15% bf? I think your focused on the wrong goal brutha. You're gonna be a lean 145 bs. Which is gonna be twig status at 5'11

To answer your question though, doubt you need to stack compounds at your current size. Especially a couple of methyls. Just seems like a big risk when your current compound can handle the job by itself
also, i was under the impression that i would gain like 5lbs and drop around 3% bf while on epi (pls korrect me if i'm wrong)
 
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Okay ill "correct" you.. only if your diet allows for you to do so. The compound wont do it for you
 

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Okay ill "correct" you.. only if your diet allows for you to do so. The compound wont do it for you
So I am also on epi now, just started. In the same boat (only kind of tho, goal-wise, not stat-wise... I'm 184 and 14%, 6'). First cycle. I do want to gain a few lbs, and drop some bf%'s. Since on (5 days in), I've been eating ridiculously clean, but not in much of a deficit, if one at all, cuz I still want to give something for the epi to work with. As much lean protein as I can stomach, nasty-ass clean carbs, and healthy fats (40:40:20, I'm guessing?).
Is this the kind of diet I need to be eating to allow me to reach my goals? I just feel torn. Originally I just wanted to cut, no intention of heading down this PH path. Then decided on epi for the cut. Now questioning whether I should just concentrate on gains. So, as indecisive as I am, I've been eating ~maintenance, but crazy clean. Any suggestions? (And yeah I have the impt on cycle and PCT that I need, that is not a prob)
 

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I think recomp is a better goal than cutting especially for a first cycle.
 
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do u think i can sub SNS - REduce XT for pes- lean xtreme?
 
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can things like caffeine, yohimbine, synephrine be taken while on cycle?
 

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