First log - Msten/Triumphalis

[timper]

Decided to log my experience on my upcoming 6 week msten/triumphalis cycle. This is my first log and I'll try to report daily.

Cycle layout:
Stenabol - 10/10/10/10/15/15
Triumphalis - 60/60/60/60/60/60

Arimacare pro - full dose throughout

Pct:
Nolva - 30/20/20/10
Super pct - full dose

I have letro on hand and will low dose on cycle if needed but I doubt it will be.

I'll put my starting stats up closer to the cycle starting, along with meal plan, and workout routine. Before/after pics will come at the end of the cycle due to current employer.

This is really to keep me on track and make me feel a bit more accountable for diet and consistency with intensity. Don't tear me apart too bad if anythings done wrong haha

 

[timper]

Forgot to say, I'm starting first week of May.

 

[reps4jesus]

You know I'm in!

 

[Warthog13]

I'm in, too. Go get it!

 

[Mystere3]

Why did you decide on those two compounds?

No test base?

 

[timper]

Thanks for joining! And I chose these two compounds cause I'm going for a nice lean bulk, with maybe a bit of a recomp effect. Thought they'd work well together. And I'm not worried about a test base just cause I've never had lethargy, I always have a bone haha so don't worry about it too much.

 

[Mystere3]

Honestly I am not sure you're getting much synergy out of these two compounds. I would instead recommend triumph at 60 with tren at 90.

 

[timper]

Can't run tren. I already tried it and couldn't control the gyno

 

[Mystere3]

You could also consider triumph and furaza or trest.

 

[timper]

Furazas too expensive, and I've been thinking trest maybe for a future cycle but I'm pretty driven to give this stack a shot

 

[Mystere3]

I just think those two compounds aren't particularly synergistic so you're better off running either higher.

 

[timper]

Idk.. We'll see. I'll think about it this week

 

[reps4jesus]

I'd stack msten with Mithras. But I still see a good recomp in msten and triumphiellis. I would go for Mithras though.

 

[timper]

i debated mithras but i think its a little too harsh for me so i figured triumphalis was next best thing for now.

 

[timper]

Cycle starts tomorrow and i decided im gonna stick with my original cycle layout. figured id toss out some extra information before i start.

Stats -
Weight: 185
BF%: 11%
Bench: rep 225
Squat: rep 305
Deadlifts: rep 335

Diet -

Breakfast:
2 eggs, and 6 egg whites
two cups fruit
3/4 cup of oatmeal
protein shake

Snack:
Mutant mass

Lunch:
2 chicken breast
2 cups broccoli
1 sweet potato

Snack:
cheese, almonds

Dinner:
12oz steak or large fish alterntive
3 cups spinach or kale
couscous or whole wheat pasta

Casein before bed.

My workouts are 6x a week.
Legs/Chest & Tris/ Back & Bis/Shoulders/Legs/Weak point

Deadlift on back days not leg days.

 

[timper]

Week 1 Nothings really changed this week. Saw a little drop in libido which is normal for me. Definitely dont feel "on" yet.

Day 1:
Nothing to report obviously, this is just the beginning. Worked legs on Monday;

Leg Press 10,10,8,8
Stiff leg Deadlifts 10,10,10,8
Squats 12,10,10,8
Hamstring Curls 12,10,8
Leg Extensions 10,10,8

Day 2:
Had a killer chest workout since im trying to get back lifting a little heavier after a past shoulder injury i got downhill mountain biking.

Incline DB 10,10,8,7
Flat Flyes 12,10,10,10
Flat DB 10,8,8,8
Cable Flyes 12,11,10,10
Decline Press 8,8,8,6

Extensions 12,12,12,10
Kickbacks 10,10,10

Day 3:
Nice and sore from chest yesterday and i like it! Back today and im feeling good. Back isss my favourite day.

Deadlifts 2x10 warmup sets, 8,8,8,6 (working sets)
One arm rows 8,8,7,7
reverse flyes 10,10,9,8
lat pulldown 10,10,10,9
t-bar 8,8,8,6
back extensions 14,14,12,12

Ez-bar curls 10,10,8
Hammer curls 12,12,10

Day 4:
its heating up here in Canada and im more a fan of cold weather for sleeping purposes so didnt sleep too well last night. Thinking of tossing some melatonin into the mix until im used to the heat again. But otherwise still feeling good and shoulders today!

shoulder press 10,10,8,7
lateral raises 12,10,10,10
front raises 12,12,10,10
Machine lateral raises 12,12,13,10

Day 5:
slept kinda ****ty again last night also which isnt helping my being tired. Still gotta go pump out this leg workout. Just gonna toss my music in, get in the zone and kill it.

Front squats 10,10,10,8
Stiff leg deads 12,12,10,8
Lunges 20,20,18,18 (not weighted)
Laying hammy curls 12,12,10,10
Leg extensions 14,12,12,10

Day 6:
Aunt finally tossed on the AC so i slept like a baby and got to sleep in a bit. Didnt think too much about what to workout today but realized i missed a few exercises so i'll just play some fill in the blanks.

Shrugs 14,14,12,12,9
Cable crunches 18,18,17,15
Leg raises 14,14,14,13
Mountain climbers 40,40,40
Calf Press 20,20,20,20
Seated calf raises 18,18,16,17

Havent been working abs as much as id like so probably gonna be a nice and sore core tomorrow

Day 7:
Good thing im taking sundays off cause i dont think my mom would be too understanding about gym time on mothers day haha. Been eating all clean all week so decided im taking my mom out for breakfast and im gonna pig out a bit and use one of my couple cheat days early on. Oh well, definitely a good occasion to cheat.

On a cycle note; my pre-existing gyno has started to soften up and im shedding a little bit so i think its starting to kick in a bit...lets hope

 

[timper]

Day 8:
Still not feeling anything. Thought maybe id start feeling the msten a bit but no rush. If nothing by mid week i may up the dosage but we'll see.
Once again worked legs. Still feeling the workout from friday a liiiitttle bit but nothing big enough to alter how i lift.

Squats 8,8,8,7
Hammy Curls 12,10,10,11
Leg Press 10,10,9,7 (head was gonna explode on that last rep)
Stiff Leg deads 10,10,10,10
Leg extensions 12,10,9,8
Calf press 14,14,15,13
Standing calf raises 13,12,12,11

Day 9:
Recovery times are shortening and im not as sore from yesterdays leg workout as i usually would be. definitely a good sign. Time to rip some chest!

Incline Barbell 12,12,10,10
Incline Flyes 12,10,10,10
Flat Bench Press 10,10,8,7
Pec Deck 10,10,10,10
Hammer Press 12,12,10,8

Cable tricep extensions 15,15,14,12
Reverse curls 12,12,10,10

 

[timper]

On another note, i will be posting more frequently. I just know the first week is pretty uneventful so i just recorded my workouts etc in my book then whipped em on here. Otherwise frequent updates coming soon

 

[timper]

Day 10

Got to rip back out hard today! felt like a monster in the gym. Really noticing recovery time differences, and my pre-existing gyno is like liquid which seems to happen on cycle so definitely kicking in. also decided to change up my workouts to work a three day split. now gonna be -- legs and biceps/chest and tris/back and shoulders -- gonna see how this flys for a bit

Deadlifts 10 (warm up set) 8,8,8,6 (working sets)
one armed rows 10,10,10,9
wide grip cable rows 10,10,10,12
reverse flyes 12,10,10,10
t bar rows 10,9,8,8
lat pull downs 12,10,10,10
switch grip pull downs 12,12,10,10
back extensions 14,14,14

shoulder press 10,10,10,8
lateral raises 12,12,10,10
upright rows 10,10,10
front raises 12,12,10,10

 

[timper]

Day 11

back to leg day for another time this week. a$$ is a little sore cause of the deadlifts but not bad. during/after todays workout i noticed im feeling and looking a lot fuller. no weight gain but i can feel it coming.

Squats 10,10,8,8
laying leg curls 10,10,10,10
leg extensions 10,10,10,10
single leg curls 12,10,10,10
leg press 12,12,10,10 (a bit lighter so i can get the reps to really finish them off)
seated calf raises 20,18,22,19

cable curls 14,12,12
hammer curls 10,10,10
concentration curls 10,10,10

 

[timper]

Day 12

hitting chest today. i'm looking really full and feeling nice and strong. trying to work on size and shape of my chest this cycle since its lacking aesthetic wise compared to the rest of my body.

incline db press 10,10,10,10
pullovers 12,10,10,10
flat db bench 10,10,10,10
cable flyes 12,12,10,10
close grip bench 14,14,12,10
hammer press 12,12,10,9

cable pushdowns (rope) 14,14,12,12
one armed cable extensions 12,12,10,10
kickbacks 10,10,10

 

[timper]

Day 13

Back day again and man im feeling good. can definitely see some changes starting in my chest and shoulders. gonna weigh in tomorrow when i have access to an accurate scale in the morning.

deadlifts 10 (warmup) 8,8,8,6
one arm rows 10,10,10,10
reverse flyes 12,12,10,10
seated cable rows 10,10,10,10
lat pulldowns 12,10,10,10
back extensions 14,14,12,12

db shoulder press 12,10,10,10
upright rows 10,10,10,10
lateral raises 12,10,10,10
cable front raises 14,14,12,12

 

[timper]

Day 14

Weighed in this morning at 188 (+3)

And so it begins.. woke up this morning just feeling pumped. too bad todays my off day or id be in the gymall damn day. i can tell just by looking in the mirror this is gonna be a nice lean gain cycle. compared to the look i got on superdrol which was just glycogen retention this looks a lot more like solid muscle. hoping the gains stay slow and steady, from past experience those big leaps in weight in short times never hang around after post.

Also, a slight change to my diet, im going with 10 eggwhites in the morning instead of the 2 eggs and 6 whites. and also popping a veggie shake in with breaky (kale, spinach, honey, yogurt, flax seeds)

 

[timper]

Made a change to my PCT today. im actually running this cycle while my buddy runs/finishes his and he's almost done annnd didnt get a serm so im giving him my nolva. SO, ive changed my PCT to look like this;

Ralox 60/60/30/30
Clomid 70/70/35/35

 

[Mystere3]

Seems like overkill to me.

 

[timper]

ya thats something i just tossed out honestly.. i have some pre-existing gyno so id like to try rolax during post to keep it from getting worse, but i know its not the greatest for restoring hpta function. so i like the two of those together just working out the dosages.

 

[reps4jesus]

Strength up yet?

 

[timper]

Nothing drastic but the weight is feeling lighter and I'm gonna push my limits this coming week strength wise instead of just hypertrophy. I honestly really just started feeling it kick in the last couple days, which I find weird cause I thought msten kicked in faster. Either way though, 4 more weeks of gainzz

 

[themayor]

Subbed in for this thread. Bring the gainz! lol

 

[timper]

Day 15

Started today off real hungry. could barely wait to eat when i got up. didnt even get to finish my curls cause the gym closed early.. forgot about that but oh well just one set. checked my bp today and it was 130/75 so still in normal range. im gonna check it out again tomorrow morning just to compare systolic. todays leg workout was great, unfortunately the gym was packed like the week after new years for some reason and i couldnt get my hands on a squat rack but i made it work.

leg press 10,10,10,10
stiff leg deads 12,12,10,10
lunges (per leg) 12,12,12,11
leg extensions 12,10,10,10
leg curls 12,10,10,10
calf raises 20,20,18,18

straight bar curls 10,10,10
cable curls 10,10,10
hammer curls 12,12

 

[reps4jesus]

Eat like crazy buddy

 

[themayor]

Day 15

Started today off real hungry. could barely wait to eat when i got up. didnt even get to finish my curls cause the gym closed early.. forgot about that but oh well just one set. checked my bp today and it was 130/75 so still in normal range. im gonna check it out again tomorrow morning just to compare systolic. todays leg workout was great, unfortunately the gym was packed like the week after new years for some reason and i couldnt get my hands on a squat rack but i made it work.

leg press 10,10,10,10
stiff leg deads 12,12,10,10
lunges (per leg) 12,12,12,11
leg extensions 12,10,10,10
leg curls 12,10,10,10
calf raises 20,20,18,18

straight bar curls 10,10,10
cable curls 10,10,10
hammer curls 12,12

Maybe college kids coming home from school, might be why the gym has more people in it, that's what happens with our gym.

 

[timper]

Ya that and everyone who wanted to workout had to do it before 2 so everyone just packed in

 

[timper]

Man I am sheddinggg. Gonna go but some nizoral tonight or tomorrow to see if it helps. Don't mind some hair loss but I don't wanna be bald quite yet haha

 

[timper]

Day 16

Feeling good, but no aggression etc. thinking its probably been long enough to decide msten wont give me that alpha feeling that i love so damn much. too bad but what can ya do. no extra weight gain still just a lot harder and more solid looking. i have lost some definition in my abs though because of some bloat but i'll get em back quick when im done. chest day though..

incline db press 12,10,10,10
pullovers 12,12,12,12
incline flyes 12,10,10,10
flat db press 10,10,10,8
cable flyes 12,12,10,10
pec deck 10,10,10,10
dips 3x to failure

tricep pushdowns 14,14,12,12
one arm rope pushdowns 14,14,14,14
kickbacks 12,12,12,12

the pumps im getting are insanee. absolutely loving it.

 

[timper]

Day 17

Favourite day of the week! pretty pumped up for back day today. Think i tweaked something in my ass tbh and it is killingggg so deadlifts will wait until saturday.

Bent over rows 10,10,10,10
one armed rows 12,10,10,10
bent over reverse flyes 12,12,10,10
seated rows 10,10,10,10
lat pulldowns 12,12,10,10
straight arm pulldowns 12,12,12,12
reverse grip pulldowns 10,10,10,10

upright rows 10,10,10,10
shoulder press 10,10,10,10
lateral raises 12,12,12,12
front cable raises 12,12,12,12

The pumps are getting even better! feeling amazing after my workout today. BP is at 121/77 so normal. Still at the same weight today, so im gonna up my calories and my msten dosage so i'll be taking 15mg msten/60mg triumph.

 

[reps4jesus]

I'd do 20mg msten unless you're worried about extra shedding.
Doing good so far man!

 

[timper]

Ya I'm gonna test the waters at 15 using nizoral eod and see how the shedding is. I will bump to 20 though

 

[timper]

I'm dosing my msten and triumph at the same time (breaky, lunch, dinner) is that fine or should the doses be seperate...

 

[Olympus Labs]

I'm dosing my msten and triumph at the same time (breaky, lunch, dinner) is that fine or should the doses be seperate...

that's fine.

 

[reps4jesus]

I personally like bigger doses PWO, just me.

I like the pump, especially with methylstenbolone

 

[timper]

Day 18

Back to leg day and im feeling good. no lethargy setting in yet but i get the odd headache which may be my bp creeping up a bit. hair loss has slowed down so maybe thats all im gonna lose for now. the pumps are lasting all day and im generally feeling good.

Squats 10,10,10,8,8
Leg press 10,10,10,10,8
Stiff leg deads 10,10,10,10
Hammy curls 12,10,10,8
calf press 20,20,20,20
seated calf raises 14,14,14,14

hammer curls 12,12,12
straight bar curls 12,10,10
concentration curls 12,10,10

 

[Peppers]

That's an enormous amount of volume.

 

[timper]

Day 19

Hitting chest good and hard today. some positive news is my weight is up to 192 and im looking nice and lean so its dense muscle coming on.

incline db press 12,10,8,10
incline db flyes 12,12,12,12
flat db press 12,10,8,10
close grip bench 12,12,10,10
cable flyes 10,10,10,10
seated reverse front raises (dunno the name so thats what im gonna call them) 12,12,12,12

rope extensions (cables) 14,14,14,13
kickbacks 12,12,12,12
overhead 1 arm rope extensions 12,12,12

post workout, just felt like an absolute beast (also during). the weights feeling like theyre just getting lighter and lighter. may have taken longer then expected but i think the strength will come on now.

 

[timper]

That's an enormous amount of volume.

i honestly just didnt want to stop.. i could barely walk after haha im lucky my buddy was driving me home

 

[Peppers]

Lol

 

[reps4jesus]

i honestly just didnt want to stop.. i could barely walk after haha im lucky my buddy was driving me home

I know the feeling, the other day I was doing arms and I just didn't want to stop. I coulda gone all night. I limited myself to 2 hours

 

[reps4jesus]

<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=101614"/>

Lol

I need one of those...lol

 

[Mystere3]

I know the feeling, the other day I was doing arms and I just didn't want to stop. I coulda gone all night. I limited myself to 2 hours

That's bc you guys aren't lifting with enough intensity. At the end of my prescribed lifts, I want to die and have to convince myself to continue living.

 

[Peppers]

Not to ride his thread, but that's what I was getting at. I normally wanna puke after 15 sets lol