First cycle advice needed
- 02-19-2014, 10:22 PM
- 02-20-2014, 12:45 AM
This information is readily available via a simple internet search. You'll learn more and be better prepared if you find it yourself.
02-20-2014, 07:57 AM
-you don't know anything about how to space your doses
-you don't know anything about PCT
-you don't know anything about on-cycle supports
-you don't even know your own bf% (even an estimate)
-you haven't done any research on what you're taking
-you're extremely lazy
And this is what we assume:
-you don't know how to train properly for your body
-you probably have no regiment, program, or plan to follow that you KNOW will get results
-you don't know anything about nutrition or how to diet for your body/goals
-you most likely don't even have a realistic goal (maybe "get JACKED and RIPPED and HYYUUUGGGEE")
My advice: stay away from steroids until you can cross off all these negatives and stop being so damn lazy.
-do some research on diet, training, and overall bodybuilding
-do more research
-begin thinking about steroids
-research PCT and cycle supports
-research a ton (like for months-years) on a few compounds that make sense FOR YOU and YOUR GOALS
-Post up a sample cycle with ALL of your current stats, goals, diet, training, supports, cycle, PCT for people to critique
-Listen to the people who know what they're talking about
After all this, maybe you'll be ready.
02-20-2014, 01:53 PM
First off I did not say I had no goals nor did I say I didn't know anything about the things that you stated. I only need to know what would be the best solution for pct being as though I'm getting mixed answer from all types of sites that I have done my research on. Which I have done research on everything that I need to know. The only thing I asked was about the pct. so with this being said. If you don't have anything motivated to say then clearly shut the **** up because you are not helping at all. Research done 6 1/2 months , program done, Bf % just got it today Done, proper diet done, and I have lifting for 2yrs done. Didn't ask for your opinion if I should so it or not. Pct that's what I need more info on. But I always seem to run into *******s like yourself. Clear my thread dude
02-20-2014, 02:01 PM
02-20-2014, 02:01 PM
Why dont you post your ideas on pct first and then welcome help and opinions. Show the fact you have done some work.
02-20-2014, 02:48 PM
02-20-2014, 03:52 PM
Didn't know that I had to post all of that info for advice but if he would have asked instead of critiquing and insulting my intelligence on the matter then maybe things would have panned out but hey watever to each it's own can't look for assistance from everyone thanks!! Appreciate it I will enjoy my hormone roller coaster!
02-20-2014, 03:54 PM
02-20-2014, 03:57 PM
02-20-2014, 06:19 PM
Even limited knowledge of how a steroid works would tell you that if you pin a short ester tues/thurs you'll have way too long before your next pin (fri/sat/sun/mon) or if it's a longer ester, you'll be basically double dosing and then waiting. Your hormones will be a disaster and most likely your sides will be uncontrollable and miserable. Just trying to potentially save your balls, liver, kidneys, and potentially life.
02-20-2014, 06:55 PM
02-20-2014, 06:56 PM
So basically all the research I looked up saying that a beginner cycle for sus 250 500mg per week is in correct
02-20-2014, 06:58 PM
02-20-2014, 07:18 PM
02-20-2014, 07:46 PM
You should pin every other day. If you have a 3ml or less pin, simply draw up between .6 and .7 ml's(.65 ml/cc) a little less than 3/4 of an ML.
A calendar might work but I always remember because I like needles.
Order from a 'reputable' research chemical co. some aromasin(exemestane) also order some Clomid while you're at it. They will abbreviate the name of it.
Then we shall proceed.
02-20-2014, 08:25 PM
02-21-2014, 03:35 AM
02-21-2014, 03:40 AM
Appreciate you all bring hard on me as well as I do need to do more research. I thought I have done all the research needed but I will take your advice and start the ordering and research more on what you mentioned in the A.M.
02-21-2014, 06:05 AM
I'm just curious as to why you are using sus on your first cycle. Shouldn't you be using something with a little less half life in case you have a bad reaction to test? Sus has a 18 day half life meaning if complications occur ur waiting almost 3 weeks for it to be completely out your system.
02-21-2014, 07:59 AM
Smartest thing you've said! I'm glad to see that you're starting to realize that there's more to it then just sticking a needle somewhere and seeing all the gainz. Its a science (literally), and even a bit of an art to truly tune it in to your individual body.
We just don't want more idiots going out and getting some dumb cycle from their "big" gym bro and ending up with heart/liver failure, kidney disease, and gyno after 3 weeks on 2948572394580 compounds. These people are the reason steroids have such a bad rep. Its more often the user that is the problem then the drug.
02-21-2014, 10:49 AM
I actually knew that it was more to just pinning. I have done a lot of research but a little unclear in some areas such as pct and on cycle support. Also I chose sus 250 for the 1st cycle because literally every site that I went to told me that sus would be the best 1st cycle being as tho I'm a beginner.
02-21-2014, 10:54 AM
I am about to do my first cycle as well and I will be doing test e. 500mg a week for 12 weeks.
I'm also deciding to just do 1 dose on Mondays . If u look at my other thread I have a very extensive pct laid out. Probably overkill but better safe than sorry
02-21-2014, 10:56 AM
A lot of my research lead me to sus for the first cycle 250mg per week for 12 weeks. Some say that cycle is pointless I should pin 500mg a week and use nolvadex for pct to answer your question .
02-21-2014, 10:58 AM
A lot of my research lead me to sus for the first cycle 250mg per week for 12 weeks. Some say that cycle is pointless I should pin 500mg a week and use nolvadex for pct.
02-21-2014, 11:15 AM
02-21-2014, 11:17 AM
250mg per week? Ur wasting your money and that low you probably wouldn't need a pct at all.. Just my opinion
02-21-2014, 11:33 AM
02-21-2014, 12:44 PM
Alright let me start from the beginning been doin research allday and last night amongst previous research I have done for the last six months.
Im planning on starting my first cycle in about a month and want to get all the input i can.
Height : 5'9
Weight : 220 (roughly 8-10%bf)
Training 2 yrs
Sustanon 250mg 2x/wk for 12 weeks- So 500mg/wk total *one injection sunday morning the other thurs night*
PCT: *(starting 3wks after last inject due to the half life of sustanon)
Clomid 50 - daily for weeks 16 - 18(3 weeks after last injection)
Nolva 40 - daily for weeks 16 - 18(3 weeks after last injection)
*I have HCG as well but i am very confused as to when to start taking it or if i should at all. I have heard it will get your body to bounce back faster when combined with nolva and cloimd. As well as help with keeping gains. There is just so much conflicting info
1) Is my PCT Ok as far as the clomid and nolva dosing?
2) IF.. I should use the HCG when should i start it? During the cycle? After? Or from weeks 12 on?
3) Is 250iu of HCG a week enough if i decide to use it?
thanx any input would be great appreciated.
02-21-2014, 01:08 PM
1) I would run a 4 week PCT like this:
2/3) Don't know much about HCG as I've never used it. You can find a lot of variety on dosing and protocols so its really just a shot in the dark/ trial and error for you.
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