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    Cool 15 week OTC contest prep AMS 4ad FRL 5-alpha test Trenavar


    AMS 4ad 6 caps a day weeks 15-9
    Forerunner Labs 5-alpha test 4 caps a day weeks 15-9 then 8 caps a day weeks 8-1
    Trenavar weeks 15-1 starting at 150mg a day
    All dosing is subject to change as I will see what feels and works the best as I go.
    I started this cycle 2 weeks ago in hopes of getting the glycogen retention out the way I always jump up about 6-10lbs at the start of a cycle. Current weight 238 starting weight was 230.
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    This is going to be very interesting!

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    In for this. GL
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    Thanks guys I'll try to keep things interesting. I'll post up my current workout plan tonight or tomorrow. And diet will follow.
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    Damn 150mg of trenavar a day? Stuff I saw for sale was 10mg tabs and 90 total for $30. Would be damn expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by absurd View Post
    Damn 150mg of trenavar a day? Stuff I saw for sale was 10mg tabs and 90 total for $30. Would be damn expensive.
    There are some 15mg, 30mg and raw powders out there.
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    Not sure how I missed this one... In for the shred fest
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    We need some updates I'm thinking of stacking some trenavar with epi for 6 weeks. 30-40 mg of epi + 20-30mg trenavar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by absurd View Post
    We need some updates I'm thinking of stacking some trenavar with epi for 6 weeks. 30-40 mg of epi + 20-30mg trenavar.
    Very nice stack!
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    Thanks. I'm still dealing with minor gyno after epi. I'm a bit worried about the trenavar causing gyno on cycle but in theory epi should combat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete8407 View Post
    Very nice stack!

    hate prestacks but that sounds like youre looking for epitren! i recommend solos so you can play with the dosing but if youve done epi and tren and know your body save some $$$ and get epitren ive heard good reviews
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    Ugh this has been the worst winter for me in years. I have been sick three times in three months... oh well fever broke last night hit the gym and feeling good today. Lost two lbs this week so I'm on track. I'll post up my routine and diet soon. Sorry for the delay I'm a big baby when I get sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mperkins View Post
    hate prestacks but that sounds like youre looking for epitren! i recommend solos so you can play with the dosing but if youve done epi and tren and know your body save some $$$ and get epitren ive heard good reviews
    Oh I agree I love to play with dosing so pre stacks never work out well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by absurd View Post
    Thanks. I'm still dealing with minor gyno after epi. I'm a bit worried about the trenavar causing gyno on cycle but in theory epi should combat it.
    I would not bet on that. In fact if I were you I would run letro before trying another cycle and you might consider an AI to be basic cycle support for you from now on!! Best to be careful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    Oh I agree I love to play with dosing so pre stacks never work out well.
    that and most of the 'GOOD" ones are like "most hard core PH with halo, epi, msten, tren, superdrl=ol, dmz, mixed with 1andro and m1t...." its like the ****? trying to kill the public????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mperkins View Post
    that and most of the 'GOOD" ones are like "most hard core PH with halo, epi, msten, tren, superdrl=ol, dmz, mixed with 1andro and m1t...." its like the ****? trying to kill the public????
    A lot of those bigger stacks are meant for the experienced user who has ran solo compounds and know how there affected by them. This doesn't always happen though, you see someone's first run with a quad stack, crazy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete8407 View Post
    A lot of those bigger stacks are meant for the experienced user who has ran solo compounds and know how there affected by them. This doesn't always happen though, you see someone's first run with a quad stack, crazy!
    im sorry even after me running two cycles of ultradrol i wouldnt touch those with a ten foot poleeee! liver failure to the max. if youre willing to kill your liver with that quad stack man up and pin. ive only taken those two cycles of ultradrol and after seeing my liver and other things in blood work im thinking these gains arent worth it. i needa manup and pin next cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mperkins View Post
    im sorry even after me running two cycles of ultradrol i wouldnt touch those with a ten foot poleeee! liver failure to the max. if youre willing to kill your liver with that quad stack man up and pin. ive only taken those two cycles of ultradrol and after seeing my liver and other things in blood work im thinking these gains arent worth it. i needa manup and pin next cycle
    I totally understand I'm even debating if I want to run simple epistane the last 4-6 weeks in this cycle or if I want to stick with non methyl like furuza-a and 5alpha test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    I totally understand I'm even debating if I want to run simple epistane the last 4-6 weeks in this cycle or if I want to stick with non methyl like furuza-a and 5alpha test.
    i vote for some eca and erase or reduce xt to spare muscle. that is if you havent got alll that ish. or a test prop run at 300mg a week would be good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mperkins View Post
    i vote for some eca and erase or reduce xt to spare muscle. that is if you havent got alll that ish. or a test prop run at 300mg a week would be good
    Prop would be best but I am trying to do this one 100% otc. Just to see how it comes out.
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    Holy insomnia batman i need to sleep im a walking zombie the past 3 days!
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    Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    Holy insomnia batman i need to sleep im a walking zombie the past 3 days!
    melatonin and camomeil or however you spell it tea. or just drink some nightquil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mperkins View Post
    melatonin and camomeil or however you spell it tea. or just drink some nightquil
    Yeah been doing nyquil and benadryl the past 5 days. No joy might break out the phenubuit next.
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    currently sitting at 228 lbs eating about 2000 cals a day. 30 min cardio 5 days a week I do not plan on bumming it up this week yet. just keeping things the same and will see how much weight I loose while not being sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    currently sitting at 228 lbs eating about 2000 cals a day. 30 min cardio 5 days a week I do not plan on bumming it up this week yet. just keeping things the same and will see how much weight I loose while not being sick.
    227 this week higher dose trenavar might be slowing down the weight loss.
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    Oh and the insomnia is a bit better after adding in some "research"
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    224 today heading in the right direction now.
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    Hey man I'm thinking of getting some trenavar to put with my epi. How fast does it take to kick in? I know epi is 2-3 weeks for me. Also trenavar can cause gyno on cycle so should I just have nolva on hand or is letro better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by absurd View Post
    Hey man I'm thinking of getting some trenavar to put with my epi. How fast does it take to kick in? I know epi is 2-3 weeks for me. Also trenavar can cause gyno on cycle so should I just have nolva on hand or is letro better?
    Took about two weeks so far I have ran topical formastane at 2 pumps a day(sorry if I left that out). I have had No problem but always keep Nolvadex and a strong AI on hand like letro never know when that Bunny might have an issue.
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    Weight at 222 now sticking with 2000-2100 calories but bumped cardio to 30 min 7 days a week. I am 8 weeks out from my first show of the year. Trying to keep the cardio light but not starve due to my job so I will be kicking in the ECA this week probably and TT-33 at 6 weeks out.
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    220 lbs this week steady loss but I need to turn things up to make my first show April 5th ..more cardio or reduce calories more? Not sure yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    220 lbs this week steady loss but I need to turn things up to make my first show April 5th ..more cardio or reduce calories more? Not sure yet.
    i say cardio. id always wanna keep my calories high jusst bump up the cardio until you just cant do anymore then move calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    220 lbs this week steady loss but I need to turn things up to make my first show April 5th ..more cardio or reduce calories more? Not sure yet.
    that is do you like cardio?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mperkins View Post
    that is do you like cardio?
    Its fine just time consuming. I'm at 45 min a day now. Might just bump to an hour this week and see how it works.
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    Still at 45min cardio a day 2000 calories 218 lbs 6 weeks left to the first show of the year. I'm thinking if I stay at 2 lbs per week I'll nail it BF% wise. Just need to peak correctly and it will be good. Sticking with ECA right threw to the show.
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    Well im pushing back to another show.. My son went into the hospital Sunday night with an appendicitis and it burst so I have been living in the hospital room with him no meal prep no cardio no lifting. But oh well such is life im going to push for a mid May show and keep this cycle going this 15 weeks of trendione might just turn into 20... lol
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    I wish the best for your son. That's no joke when it bursts inside.
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    yeah they're not many things scare me but I have no problem admitting that news really did and then the infections that followed were not any better. But today was really good day is up walking looking like he's getting better and is a chance may be home this weekend.
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