Double Epistane Log - Should be interesting
- 11-06-2013, 10:44 AM
- 11-06-2013, 11:11 AM
11-06-2013, 11:38 AM
11-06-2013, 11:49 AM
11-06-2013, 05:07 PM
11-07-2013, 04:15 AM
Yea I'm 5th day of pct... It's going great cept just has slight testicle pain... I guess that means they coming back... You might get same prob so don't stress.. I dunno if Clomid or hcg takes care of that... I think also I was gonna start 're running activate extreme at 3 pills so I can extend it past the serm finish
11-07-2013, 04:16 AM
11-07-2013, 09:31 AM
11-07-2013, 07:31 PM
11-08-2013, 02:04 AM
11-08-2013, 08:05 AM
11-08-2013, 08:29 AM
Man, this PCT is not going well so far. I haven't lost much really, still weighing 203 in the mornings, but it has been impossible to go to sleep the last three nights. I also feel extremely sick this morning like throwing up, and don't feel like working out or eating, which is not good.
Any suggestions from you experienced guys about how to deal with the sleep issues and feeling sick?
11-08-2013, 09:01 AM
11-08-2013, 09:09 AM
11-08-2013, 11:15 AM
11-08-2013, 11:17 AM
11-08-2013, 11:19 AM
11-08-2013, 07:35 PM
Does anyone know if it could be the DAA causing the stomach upsetness? I think I read somewhere that it does. I am thinking about forgoing it for the rest of my PCT, but mostly because I just read the article on the home page about it having no effect whatsoever. Not sure if that doesn't apply to guys who are coming off a cycle and have very low levels to start with. But I think I'm going to give it up just because of the stomach issues I've been having. Does anyone have any input on this? I'm not sure if its the Clomid, Nolva, or DAA that's giving me problems, but I can't afford to give up the first two
11-08-2013, 08:39 PM
11-08-2013, 08:43 PM
11-08-2013, 08:48 PM
Good call. I'm gonna stop DAA for a few days and continue with just Clomid/Nolva and Lean Xtreme, and I'll let you guys know how I feel. It has absolutely ruined my ability to work out AND eat, which is really concerning to me because I really do not want to lose these gains. If I can narrow down what is making me sick in this log, hopefully it can be helpful to someone else
11-08-2013, 11:46 PM
11-09-2013, 12:15 AM
11-09-2013, 01:24 AM
11-09-2013, 09:19 AM
That being said, my fear has come upon me...I weighed this morning and I am 199 right now :-( That's like a 5-6 lb drop from where I started my PCT. That's what two days of barely being able to eat and not work out will do to you in PCT I guess. I'm hoping to get over this stomach thing today and I'm going to kick my training into overdrive for the next 3 weeks to get back as much of those gains as I can.
11-09-2013, 03:19 PM
That's a good chunk of weight you dropped.
But I would think that's primarily water weight. (especially taking into consideration your recent stomach issues)
Your weight may fluctuate a bit over the next few weeks.
Once you feel better, I'd give it another couple of days and see what's happening with your weight at that point.
You've only been off Epi for a few days so I wouldn't get too worried just yet.
11-09-2013, 04:02 PM
11-10-2013, 06:39 AM
Yea Dw bout it Aaron it's all a mental thing.... Even though you had dry gains you still added water in your muscles... One thing I noticed since I've lost 2 pounds so far is that when your on epistane you tend to look really hard as you gain... But as soon as you get into pct that rock hardness goes out the window... So started assuming I lost muscle... Not the case.... Losing muscle is very slow even if you're starved of protein... Another bonus you would like to hear is the theory of muscle memory... Whatever muscle you've lost that is not out of your genetic potential you will regain as fast as someone gains fat... Judging by your pics you are not near your potential... So those 6 pounds you lost even if it is muscle will comeback very fast once your hormones get back to normal.... So don't stress champ.. Check it out
11-10-2013, 11:31 AM
11-11-2013, 04:23 PM
Worked out pretty hard today which felt good, and I'm able to eat 3k calories yesterday which still isn't my goal but much better than 1500. Still can't sleep to save my life, and I need to order some of that ZMA stuff.
I have seen a pretty noticable drop off in strength the past two days. Yesterday I did an 8x3 of back squat with 300#, and it felt like 350#. It destroyed me and I'm crazy sore today, whereas two weeks ago I was throwing 330# around with ease and not getting sore. So that sucks. Today my bench felt quite a bit weaker as well. But I'm not sure how much of that is because I've been sick and low on food/sleep for 5 days now. The good thing is I weighed 200lb this morning, so hopefully I'm gaining some of that weight back. Doing everything I can right now to keep this weight on. Every time I eat I keep getting acid reflux and tasting my food again because of the poor digestion from the stomach issue that DAA caused. But its getting better. Joints are also hurting pretty bad. This PCT sucks dick right now lol
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