Double Epistane Log - Should be interesting
- 09-25-2013, 07:09 PM
- 09-25-2013, 07:44 PM
- 09-25-2013, 08:06 PM
yeah I guess thts a rare side effect but it did happen to me nd it absolutely sucked...it's better to b safe thn sorry besides they r only like $5 at Walmart
yeah I guess my body did respond real good to it considering I waz only using low dosages nd I waz eating like a horse the whole cycle trying to get the most out of it
1 question tht I couldn't find the answer to tho...how r u taking ur doses?...all at once or throughout the day?
09-25-2013, 11:52 PM
Oh and just FYI in that article he also states that your "serm" will protect you from gyno which is also incorrect, he implies that all serms will do this when only nolva and raloxifene have an effect on breast tissue growth, clomid and toremifene have absolutely no effect on this whatsoever.
09-26-2013, 08:37 AM
As for the SERMs and gyno issue, I did think that was off too. That's why I'll be taking Clomid and nolva.
Btw, just weighed myself upon waking up, and I'm 195.2 today...up 2.2 lbs :-)
09-26-2013, 11:44 AM
I would start 3rd week.
09-26-2013, 04:40 PM
09-26-2013, 05:12 PM
09-26-2013, 05:14 PM
How did you dose yours? Whatever you did seemed to work lol
09-26-2013, 05:19 PM
Day 4 - Light Day
Back Squat 6x2 - 265#
Metcon: 3 rounds for time of
10 Handstand Pushups
20 Wall balls, 12lb ball, 15 foot target
50 double unders
Scale showed 195.2 this morning after waking up. That's a 2.2 lb gain since I started the cycle. Definitely not noticing any real strength gains yet but it feels amazing to see that scale going up again. Feeling tired again today tho...I think this could be an issue throughout the cycle. We'll see. Libido still through the roof, no issues there yet.
09-26-2013, 05:39 PM
09-26-2013, 08:17 PM
09-26-2013, 08:23 PM
I meant active "life" of 4-6 hrs
09-26-2013, 08:25 PM
- 5'10" 191 lbs.
- Join Date
- Jan 2013
- Rep Power
In.. Good log so far. Epi is interesting
09-26-2013, 08:40 PM
09-26-2013, 09:09 PM
- 5'10" 191 lbs.
- Join Date
- Jan 2013
- Rep Power
09-27-2013, 01:16 PM
09-27-2013, 01:21 PM
Nice! Are those both before pics?
09-27-2013, 02:23 PM
First pic is before send pic is 3-4 weeks in and final pics I'll post up later when I get them.
09-27-2013, 02:25 PM
09-27-2013, 04:04 PM
Workout Day 5- Shoulders
Overhead Press: 110X5, 125X5, 140X8, 125x10, 110x11
Arnold Press: 55x6, 60x6, 60x6, 60x7
Front dumbbell raises: 3 sets of 12 with 25# db's
Side dumbbell raises: 3 sets of 6 with 20# db's
****. The strength gains started today. Check this out:
I'm doing my 5/3/1 on Overhead Barbell Press today. I always add two more sets after the plus set, and make them each a plus set as well.
3 weeks ago, this is what I did:
105x5, 120x5, 135x6, 120x8, 105x12
Today I did this:
110X5, 125X5, 140X8, 125x10, 110x11
That's 1755# more lbs lifted....talk about a strength gain! I also did 3 sets of arnold press with 60# dumbbells, and a week ago today I was struggling with 50's. Surprised to see this much of a strength increase so quick, but I'm not complaining! Felt wide awake today, huge pump, No lethargy to speak of at all, libido has actually increased alot. Not sure if its somehow due to the epi, but I feel like a bull in a china shop right now lol.
Scale still said 195 this morning. We'll see if it goes up again tomorrow.
09-27-2013, 10:22 PM
09-27-2013, 11:12 PM
That being said, I hope to get both out of the cycle :-p
09-28-2013, 11:03 PM
Workout Day 6- Squat/Arms
5 rounds for time:
10 Dumbbell Snatches - 70#
15 box jumps 24 inches
-rest two minutes, then-
Kettlebell swing 53#, Decline bench situps
Squat 6x3 - 265#
Close Grip Bench 5x5, last 3 sets are plus sets
160x5, 180x5, 210x10, 180x12, 160x14
Standing Barbell Curl 5x5 - 95, 105, 110, 115, 120
Superset Skull Crushers 3x10 @ 80#, Hammer curls 3x12 @50#
Burn out 20, 15, 10, 5 of press downs and barbell curls
Omg, strength was RIDICULOUS today. I wanna try and put this in perspective. My last 5+ set on Close grip bench was 3 weeks ago, and I got 205# for 6 reps...today I got 210# for 10 reps. Then I got 180# for 12 and 160# for 14. which is 4 and 3 reps more per set also. It felt so freaking light.
I log all my workouts, and the biggest PR on Close Grip previously was a 860lb total weight lifted increase across the 5x5 set. And that was a huge PR...my second biggest PR ever was 480#. Today, my PR was 1905 lbs!!! That's insane. That's more than double my biggest PR ever... This Epi-10 is THE S-H-I-T.
Everything else felt great. Squats felt easy also. No lethargy today, no sides. Just Hercules-esque strength gains. Feeling great!
09-29-2013, 11:18 AM
Some more good news. Woke up, pissed, weighed myself: 196.4. Today is my 1 week of being on Epi...I gained 3.4 pounds in just the first week. This **** is like magic!
5 months of being on a heavy bulking diet, not 1 lb gained. 1 week on Epi, 3.4 lbs gained. Why didn't I do this sooner? If the first week has gone this well, I can't wait to see how these next 5 weeks go :-)
09-29-2013, 08:43 PM
It's good not to do it too soon. Maybe when you plateau. I'm only 23 and I think still might of been too young for epistane but I did it as I was stuck at 198 lbs. for over a year I reached a plateau. I'm 216 lbs. now and 2nd day of pct took my pre workout supplement and that was a bad mistake. I think epistane is still in my system 48 hours later and I had TOO much pump couldn't even finish my workout or bend my arms.
09-29-2013, 08:53 PM
dam bro that's no good! I guess you learned that lesson the hard way...and yea I agree, I'm glad I waited until now actually cuz I've been at a legit plateau and it feels great to finally be breaking through. I'm in love with Epi now lol
09-29-2013, 09:01 PM
into the 3rd week is the best feeling you just keep moving the pins and stacking more plates. you feel amazing. i miss that the most about being "on" good luck and stay healthy
09-29-2013, 09:21 PM
09-29-2013, 09:26 PM
I'm in, I'll be starting my cycle in a couple weeks
09-29-2013, 09:32 PM
09-29-2013, 11:09 PM
09-30-2013, 03:57 PM
09-30-2013, 04:08 PM
Week 2/Day 1 Workout - Squats/Snatch
Back Squat 6x4 - 265#
Snatch 7x1 at 145#
Front Squat 5x5 - 170#
Metcon: 5 rounds for time
10 Hang Power Cleans - 135#
8 Front Rack Walking Lunges - 135#
8 Box Jumps - 24inches
The squats felt easy and I can tell my strength is up. But Lethargy hit HARD today. Took my two Epi pills right as I left for work and on the drive there it hit me like a ton of bricks. Almost fell asleep at the wheel. Then I drank some gatorade and hit session two and just felt sleepy the whole time. I gotta start taking a 5 hr energy or something. Scale still said 196.5 so I'm stoked on that. Hopefully can gain a few more pounds this week.
09-30-2013, 06:41 PM
I don't want to hijack your thread but I'll post up as my pct continues and give you advice. 3rd day into pct and I got back pumps at the gym bad. Maybe I should have continued taking taurine and epistane might still be in my system since I took 50mg on friday. 6-8 hour half life not sure how to do the math lol.
09-30-2013, 06:43 PM
09-30-2013, 06:48 PM
The pumps started around week 3-4 and only killed me on back days and not on leg days since I didn't do deads or squats just leg press. I didn't get any lethargy everyone's body is different and you might not get the pumps.
10-01-2013, 02:49 AM
Back pumps are not fun. Period. Taurine, potassium and a shít load of water makes them manageable at best.
10-01-2013, 08:06 AM
10-01-2013, 04:02 PM
1 gram is on the low side I'd go 3+ and go from there at least an hour before the gym helped. 4th day pct and woke up with red eyes could be from nolva. I'll keep you posted.
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