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    Anavar only cycle advice


    What's up guys. I have some questions I was hoping I can bounce off of u all.

    I can get 20mg tabs from my buddy from a ugl that he's used and swears by and looks damn good. I don't wanna run it with test bc I've been on TRT in the past (I'm 25) but I do have clomid and respond well to erase (for pct purposes) Is there anything I can do besides running test to keep my **** working?

    I have prime and hghpro for natty stuff.. Don't flame me for asking if you think it's enough to keep me up. Maybe add in some perform bc that stuff is like Viagra for me....

    Question 2: for pct I have RX clomid that I was prescribed for my pituitary restart. I have enough for a solid post cycle but I remember my restart being an emotional roller coaster due to the estrogen build up of clomid (even tho my test got up at 870) my estradiol was at 40... So a little too high.

    Given that, do u think I should run my pct as clomid, Test powder, perform and anabeta. I wouldn't wanna go over 50 mg clomid... That stuff really turns me into a little cry baby. Cycle would be: Anavar- 80/80/80/80/80 + hghpro, prime, perform and staples


    Pct- Clomid- 0/0/0/0/0/50/50/25/25 +test powder(has AI and DAA), anabeta, c20, EC stack, rhodiola and vitamin c mega dose for acute stress support and possibly add in 25 eod for 3-4 days..

    The nice thing is that I can get labs done if I feel it's needed and definitely plan on it after finishing pct. any issues using clomid with something like test powder?

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    i wouldnt do any of it. anavar was not very strong for myself, just expensive. if youre worried bout your previosu trt situation, i prollly wouldnt be using anything hormonal.
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    Oral only cycle is garbage.it says you can't fully commit and are a poon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post
    Oral only cycle is garbage.it says you can't fully commit and are a poon
    Lol neither is true but ok. I need something that clears quick. I don't want to grow I just want to lean out. Despite every diet and exercise tactic, I'm not responding. = why var is best bet
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    Lol neither is true but ok. I need something that clears quick. I don't want to grow I just want to lean out. Despite every diet and exercise tactic, I'm not responding. = why var is best bet
    I would recommend a winstrol only cycle over anavar. Anavar will take a long time to see gains with winny you'll notice vascularity increase and muscle gains along with increase appetite without any water retention. All mass gained you will keep. With anavar I think it's mainly used for people cutting to keep muscle due to decrease in macros. But it's up to you winny is cheaper and comes in 50mg tabs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musclefool View Post

    I would recommend a winstrol only cycle over anavar. Anavar will take a long time to see gains with winny you'll notice vascularity increase and muscle gains along with increase appetite without any water retention. All mass gained you will keep. With anavar I think it's mainly used for people cutting to keep muscle due to decrease in macros. But it's up to you winny is cheaper and comes in 50mg tabs.
    Winny needs test run with it. I had experience with winny and didn't know wtf I was doing and needless to say, it didnt go well at all. Plus I have arthritis lol. Winny is prob worst I idea. I could hardly walk when I used it at 19. I'm 25 now
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    If I were to add test E for 12 weeks...

    Cycle
    1-12 test e 500mg (250 Tues/ Fri)
    6-10 anavar 60mg ED
    10-11anavar 80mg ED
    Would probably run erase at 1 cap a day starting week 2.

    PCT (13-16)
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    Erase 2-3 caps daily
    Test powder, anabeta, staples+stress supports

    Im seeing ppl starting pct 14 days after last test pin... This necessary or a personal preference? I'm assuming bc test will still be elevated and circulating that it's pointless to pct until it starts declining
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    Test would be a big benefit to that. You could do test prop though if you wanted to keep it short.
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    What was your problem with TRT? And what kind of cycle history do you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpHouse View Post
    Test would be a big benefit to that. You could do test prop though if you wanted to keep it short.
    No problem running test for 12... I was on TRT for 6 months so I can handle it long term..
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    Winny needs test run with it. I had experience with winny and didn't know wtf I was doing and needless to say, it didnt go well at all. Plus I have arthritis lol. Winny is prob worst I idea. I could hardly walk when I used it at 19. I'm 25 now
    Everyone responds differently that's not the first time I hear that before. I had a couple buddies i gave winny to and as a single cycle the gains they made were very noticeable. The ones who continued to lift and eat still made the gains after pct. I ran it with test cyp one of the best cycles ive ever ran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    If I were to add test E for 12 weeks...

    Cycle
    1-12 test e 500mg (250 Tues/ Fri)
    6-10 anavar 60mg ED
    10-11anavar 80mg ED
    Would probably run erase at 1 cap a day starting week 2.
    PCT (13-16)
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    Erase 2-3 caps daily Test powder, anabeta, staples+stress supports

    Im seeing ppl starting pct 14 days after last test pin... This necessary or a personal preference? I'm assuming bc test will still be elevated and circulating that it's pointless to pct until it starts declining
    why not just get arimidex?

    why ai in pct?

    and

    yes you still have a lot of hormones in your system
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    Run test prop for a little less water retention and it clears quicker
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeekPoop View Post
    why not just get arimidex?

    why ai in pct?

    and

    yes you still have a lot of hormones in your system
    Not sure if I can get it

    AI to aid with rebound. I'm VERY estrogen prone

    **I wouldn't use the erase in pct actually, just the test powder for the daa and other ingredients for recovery/natty test **
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post
    Run test prop for a little less water retention and it clears quicker
    For 12 weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    For 12 weeks?
    Yes it would be great unless you have an issue with pinning eod
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Not sure if I can get it

    AI to aid with rebound. I'm VERY estrogen prone

    **I wouldn't use the erase in pct actually, just the test powder for the daa and other ingredients for recovery/natty test **
    oh, i assumed since you can get test, you could get arimidex.

    i think its just hype and a myth personally. i use to believe that stuff until i goofed around on myself, but to each their own

    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    For 12 weeks?
    yeah, can run it just as long as if you want. prolly will get sick of pinning so frequently for 12 weeks tho
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    id also recommend running test with var for more of an effect anyway...var for me to be effective is 80-100mg day which makes it dam expensive...can always add in gw501516 which might help with muscle being retained and t3 at a moderate dose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico1 View Post
    id also recommend running test with var for more of an effect anyway...var for me to be effective is 80-100mg day which makes it dam expensive...can always add in gw501516 which might help with muscle being retained and t3 at a moderate dose
    When people say this it is because it is underdosed or poor quality anavar. With a good product 50mg works very well and gw501516 has been shown to cause cancer

    T3 is great when ran with test
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    Anavar at 20mg is weak sauce..I would doudge the gw501516 myself..

    And if your trying to cut up hard and fast you might want to consider Tren Ace, Low dose Test, T3 and Clen..you will cut like never before or so a little bird told me.
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    All good recs that I'm familiar with, but I have too many medical / systemic issues to mess with hardcore gear like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    All good recs that I'm familiar with, but I have too many medical / systemic issues to mess with hardcore gear like that.
    Low does test is about the safest option you can go with.
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    Decided on 500 test for 12 weeks and 60 var for 6
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    Thoughts on natty supps to run in pct?


    I know Daa, what about hghpro, prime, anabeta, etc... What about on cycle? Any of that stuff worth using alongside test ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Decided on 500 test for 12 weeks and 60 var for 6
    Are you sure your anavar is real?
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    Quote Originally Posted by musclefool View Post

    Are you sure your anavar is real?
    Yes my good friend has used it himself for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Yes my good friend has used it himself for a long time.
    That means nothing. When they pass a fake Anavar it'd usually a hormone that works and in done cases a lot like Anavar but it might be about anything.
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    Alot of times it's pretty underdosed or winny
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    Leave Anavar out.

    Get an OTC PH. H-Drol works even better. Heck, H-drol alone could give you 10-15lbs and dry, too. Run something like that with Test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post
    Leave Anavar out.

    Get an OTC PH. H-Drol works even better. Heck, H-drol alone could give you 10-15lbs and dry, too. Run something like that with Test.
    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post
    Why?
    1) Very expensive
    2) Known to be a bunk compound majority of time
    3) Other compounds get the job done easier and cheaper

    H-Drol is not androgenic at all. Oral T (which H-drol converts to) is 100+ anabolic but 0 androgenic. Pretty much serves the same but better purpose as Anavar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post

    1) Very expensive
    2) Known to be a bunk compound majority of time
    3) Other compounds get the job done easier and cheaper

    H-Drol is not androgenic at all. Oral T (which H-drol converts to) is 100+ anabolic but 0 androgenic. Pretty much serves the same but better purpose as Anavar.
    I would just get turinabol over hdrol why screw around with the conversion

    Just run straight test and don't even bother with the orals
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    Ill investigate the pills, packaging etc. whatever it is..... It works, the kid is 230 and single digit bf... I've known him for year he's one if my best friends and if it ISN'T var, he doesn't know.. But I have no reason to think its not at this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post
    I would just get turinabol over hdrol why screw around with the conversion

    Just run straight test and don't even bother with the orals
    Well, every one has preference. H-drol has it's own receptor activity too. So not all has to convert. This would explain the drastic weight gain associated with H-drol.

    For someone like myself, since I'm on TRT and don't need to run an illegal source of test, the benefit of H-drol is that I can have a nice oral cycle on top of my TRT while still being 100% legal. Just a piece of mind for myself and considering the various roles that I play, such things are important to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post

    Well, every one has preference. H-drol has it's own receptor activity too. So not all has to convert. This would explain the drastic weight gain associated with H-drol.

    For someone like myself, since I'm on TRT and don't need to run an illegal source of test, the benefit of H-drol is that I can have a nice oral cycle on top of my TRT while still being 100% legal. Just a piece of mind for myself and considering the various roles that I play, such things are important to me.
    I was on TRT but had a "successful" restart. My body comp is still **** even tho my bloods are showing 700-800 (at last check in July) could be much lower now... Should know tomorrow.
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    Ok. Upon further research and assessment of goals, I'm pretty interested in letro for my chest issues

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    I can't get rid of the fat/water/tissue on my chest. Even when I was anorexic at 90 pounds when I was 18.... I had bigger chest than most men. So I'm thinking letro could reverse this and hopefully keep it from returning- as that is what ive been reading.

    I've seen .25mg a day for general on cycle AI dose, and All the way up to 2.5mg in which people have said that it eliminated existing gyno and it did not return

    I've read too though that there is a STRONG rebound effect when coming off letro.... Is this something to be terribly worried about?? Anyway to lessen it? Would gyno possibly come back, worse?

    And lastly, how would I want to incorporate this into my test e/var cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Ok. Upon further research and assessment of goals, I'm pretty interested in letro for my chest issues

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    I can't get rid of the fat/water/tissue on my chest. Even when I was anorexic at 90 pounds when I was 18.... I had bigger chest than most men. So I'm thinking letro could reverse this and hopefully keep it from returning- as that is what ive been reading.

    I've seen .25mg a day for general on cycle AI dose, and All the way up to 2.5mg in which people have said that it eliminated existing gyno and it did not return

    I've read too though that there is a STRONG rebound effect when coming off letro.... Is this something to be terribly worried about?? Anyway to lessen it? Would gyno possibly come back, worse?

    And lastly, how would I want to incorporate this into my test e/var cycle?

    Thanks guys.
    Bad idea

    If you have gyno use raloxifene
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post

    Bad idea

    If you have gyno use raloxifene
    Ill look into that I don't know if I've ever heard of that... What about aromasin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post
    Bad idea

    If you have gyno use raloxifene
    Or Nolva.

    Letro will kill estrogen levels beyond a healthy level. Cheda, do you have knots up under your nipples or do you just have saggy tits due to water weight?

    If it's just water weight, then you need to do three things. 1) Get more muscle in the chest. This naturally tightens up the shape of the pec muscle when you increase in lean tissue mass. 2) Push water weight out by taking dandelion root and going to the sauna a few times a week. Drink distillied water only. Cook in distilled water, too when cooking stuff like rice and pasta. 3) Lower your body fat.
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