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    Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post

    Right, is your opinion without any real world experience as I predicted
    I base mine on experience from using these compounds and a load of other ones that has not been talked in this thread.
    Yes the original poster wants to do tren dont worry I know what tren does i've done at least 10 cycles with it
    Do you think that hcg studies are done on rats? Hcg studies are done on humans as it is prescribed to humans. A study which tests 50 or more people easily trump one dudes experience. So I don't need real world experience as that's what studies are for. Not some bro science well that's what worked for me bull****.
    If you've done 10 cycles with tren then you'd know it's not overly liver toxic, I've had bloodwork on it and have seen first hand people run high dosages and come back within normal levels of liver function. Look at Detroithammers current thread he's been on tren for 4 months with healthy lipids and liver enzymes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Do you think that hcg studies are done on rats? Hcg studies are done on humans as it is prescribed to humans. A study which tests 50 or more people easily trump one dudes experience. So I don't need real world experience as that's what studies are for. Not some bro science well that's what worked for me bull****.
    If you've done 10 cycles with tren then you'd know it's not overly liver toxic, I've had bloodwork on it and have seen first hand people run high dosages and come back within normal levels of liver function. Look at Detroithammers current thread he's been on tren for 4 months with healthy lipids and liver enzymes.
    Bro you are arguing a mute point. There are limited studies on HCG and nobody can agree on dosages at this point. Everyone does 250 because jonny decided that 250 is a safe dose then jonny told peter then peter told matt and the shiet went all over the internet.Ppl do HCG on cycle and off cycle. Right or wrong nobody ****ing knows! There isnt a protocol that really proved beyond doubt what HCG does at what dosage in terms of damage. I go by bloodwork and what that says and so does a buddy of mine. So mute point. YOU do it then tell me how it went.
    AS for tren YOU do 700mg a week for 4 months then post your experience with it not some other dude. Im not interested in what some other ppl did and you repeating their experience. Now if you are smart you never stay on tren for 4 months to begin with. I understand ppl do all kind of experiments not necessarely knowing what they are geting themselves into and if they do doesnt mean is all that safe but how much risk ppl take is up to them im not here to judge. I just like to share my experience and not repeat what others have said.
    There is a reason why I only done tren on a limited bases,,,,it's hard on the body
    100mg ED of tren is a hard on the liver and kidneys and yes my lipids take a dive on it and liver enzymes start to go up hence why I only do 6 weeks on it and move on to other things. Now you want to throw anadrol in the mix which is highly toxic then you must do weekly blood work if you do not that's a slippery slope and unecessary risk even if you willing to take risk. Common sense bro that all this is
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    Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post

    Bro you are arguing a mute point. There are limited studies on HCG and nobody can agree on dosages at this point. Everyone does 250 because jonny decided that 250 is a safe dose then jonny told peter then peter told matt and the shiet went all over the internet.Ppl do HCG on cycle and off cycle. Right or wrong nobody ****ing knows! There isnt a protocol that really proved beyond doubt what HCG does at what dosage in terms of damage. I go by bloodwork and what that says and so does a buddy of mine. So mute point. YOU do it then tell me how it went.
    AS for tren YOU do 700mg a week for 4 months then post your experience with it not some other dude. Im not interested in what some other ppl did and you repeating their experience. Now if you are smart you never stay on tren for 4 months to begin with. I understand ppl do all kind of experiments not necessarely knowing what they are geting themselves into and if they do doesnt mean is all that safe but how much risk ppl take is up to them im not here to judge. I just like to share my experience and not repeat what others have said.
    There is a reason why I only done tren on a limited bases,,,,it's hard on the body
    100mg ED of tren is a hard on the liver and kidneys and yes my lipids take a dive on it and liver enzymes start to go up hence why I only do 6 weeks on it and move on to other things. Now you want to throw anadrol in the mix which is highly toxic then you must do weekly blood work if you do not that's a slippery slope and unecessary risk even if you willing to take risk. Common sense bro that all this is
    There's a guy on this forum (Detroithammer) that runs tren for that long.
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    I don''t feel like turning a thread into an argument is going to help this gentlemen out one bit.
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    Here is the final cycle that I've decided to try. I will start mid to late Nov (wedding first) and keep a log here. Thanks @vassille for all the advice and help in putting this together. Please remember that the dosage is/will be adjusted to the quality of the gear used.

    Cycle - 6 weeks
    50mg Prop ED
    100mg tren ace ED
    75mg masteron ED
    .5mg arimdex E3D
    1iu HGH 5 on/2 off
    cabergoline - 0.5mg twice a week
    200mg Andropen EOD

    Bridge - 4 weeks
    .5mg arimdex E3D
    1000iu HCG m/w/f
    1iu HGH 5 on/2 off

    Cycle - 6 weeks
    1iu HGH 5 on/2 off
    50mg Prop ED
    100mg Anadrol ED
    75mg masteron ED
    .5mg arimdex E3D
    200mg Andropen EOD

    Bridge - 4 weeks
    1000iu HCG m/w/f
    1iu HGH 5 on/2 off
    .5mg arimdex E3D
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    Why would you run hcg the entire time? if you run during cycle then you shouldn't need it off cycle. Also 1iu of hgh sounds really low. I'm not sure it's too effective at that dose, but Ido I haven't used it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Val_0 View Post
    Here is the final cycle that I've decided to try. I will start mid to late Nov (wedding first) and keep a log here. Thanks @vassille for all the advice and help in putting this together. Please remember that the dosage is/will be adjusted to the quality of the gear used.

    Cycle - 6 weeks
    50mg Prop ED
    100mg tren ace ED
    75mg masteron ED
    .5mg arimdex E3D
    1iu HGH 5 on/2 off
    cabergoline - 0.5mg twice a week
    200mg Andropen EOD

    Bridge - 4 weeks
    .5mg arimdex E3D
    1000iu HCG m/w/f
    1iu HGH 5 on/2 off

    Cycle - 6 weeks
    1iu HGH 5 on/2 off
    50mg Prop ED
    100mg Anadrol ED
    75mg masteron ED
    .5mg arimdex E3D
    200mg Andropen EOD

    Bridge - 4 weeks
    1000iu HCG m/w/f
    1iu HGH 5 on/2 off
    .5mg arimdex E3D
    Great Val, you welcome!
    I;ll chime in once you start this thing to see how it goes. By then im prob starting my prep for a possible BB show in the spring so I'll be around.
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