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    Day 9: back/biceps
    Chin ups(bodyweight) slow reps: 7 reps 5 sets
    Pull ups (bodyweight): slow reps: 7 reps 5 sets
    Lat cross over: 140x10 160x8 150x8 150x8
    Seated bicep curl 30lb dumbbells: x20 x15 x12

    I managed to crawl my ass to the gym even though my legs are still crippled and swollen like a potato. Pretty much did the exercises I found doable given my crippledness.
    Overall...feeling like ****, this bad reaction to the gear is taking a toll on me on so many levels.

    Hopefully itll get better soon and there will be no real damage to my legs.

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    Where on your thigh did you pin??
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    In the right spot i watch like the proper method n everything it was in between the 2 palms that u make from knee n thigh. Vastus lateralis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazard12 View Post
    In the right spot i watch like the proper method n everything it was in between the 2 palms that u make from knee n thigh. Vastus lateralis.
    Ok just curious. I had a buddy pin his rectis femoris lol and he was crippled for over a week. I just laffed at him after he told me.
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    Yeah im not retarded, if im doing a slightly dangerous procedure im doing some research to make sure I dont **** up.
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    I just read thru ur log and I have two advises for u.

    1. The pain u get from injecting is normal. When I first started same thing I couldn't walk almost. But by time u have four five shots in same muscle it gets much better. Now I'm fourth cycle down te road and literally I don't get pip or during injection pain. Stick to 23-25g at most

    2. Ur volume seems very low although it did go up a little from the start of log. Also chest shoulders triceps is a good lift for someone starting out and not for someone juicing. Yes it will get I gains but u should be sticking to one or two at most muscle groups like chest and bis back and traps delts n tris and just destroy that group. After ur First two presses ur triceps r done I know ifbbs do chest n tris or back n bis but they on so much gear n stuff that they don't even need to lift lol. U should isolate more and I might get flamed for this but that's my advise. Do less muscles at once but twice a week
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    Day 10: Chest/shoulder triceps
    Incline bench press: 205x8 215x5 215x6 205x7
    Flat bench press: 185x7 205x5 205x5
    Machine chest flies: 180x6 180x8 180x8
    Superset: Palm up cable tricep extension/ One sided dumbbell upright row
    1: 170x8 // 30x8
    2: 180x8 // 40x8
    3: 180x8 // 45x8

    It was a decent day, my legs are still messed up looking, really swollen and red but the pain is a little better I was somewhat walking. Wish i could have done more volume but my buddy/ride had to dip. Although given the massive healing process iIassume is going on in my legs I might wanna hold on on the volume.

    Cant really comment on much about the cycle cant really notice small changes in my body when my legs look like freaking potatoes. I also believe its making me hold some ridiculous water weight cause my ab region is a lot less defined and my weight is up to 182 when I havent even upped my cals past 3500 on workout days.

    At this point Im just hoping my legs will get better although I cant see myself doing leg day for another week at least. Im definitely pinning my glutes next as ive done it before and had no trouble (although it was a gear that I believe it was bunk, but still had no adverse reaction whatsoever).
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    Day 12: Rest
    My legs recovered over 90%. I pinned again on my right quad to test out the virgin muscle theory plus I changed a couple things to make it better. Namely i warmed the oil, took some benadryl before pinning and rolled my muscle 30min after the injection. Its been 5 hours since the pin and the muscle is a bit sore and increasing. Hopefully tomorrow wont be too bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazard12 View Post
    Day 8: Cant hit the gym
    Sooo this pip has gotten out of control. I cant walk at this point i need to keep my knees locked at all times when i do otherwise its very painful. The swelling is mainly in the injection site and the knee area which is completely round as if fat. Ive been taking 800mg of ibuprofen every 4-6 hours hoping itll do something but nothing at all. I highly doubt its an infection since I injected my subcutaneous tissue with the CJC-1295DAC at the same time following the same protocol and that whole area is perfectly fine. My best guess so far is that i had a mixture of virgin muscle+ some bad reaction to this particular gear + I went to a club the day i pinned and was moving around a lot which i feel could have turned a simple histamine reaction into some bad muscle damage.

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    Yeah i stopped taking the ibuprofen long ago, it wasnt really doing much.
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    So provided that I eventually can train legs on this gear and not forced to stop the test, I was thinking of adding Anavar 50mg/ED PW a week after I stop the Msten. Im not entirely sure if this would be too harsh on my liver as it would mean that id be running 4 weeks of msten, 1 week of just test, followed by 3 weeks of Anavar, followed by 2 weeks of just test and then the 5 weeks of epi. Or I could just run the anavar PW while running the epi. Anyone have any experience doing anything like this? I am running cycle support extensively and drinking loads of water as to prevent damage to my body as much as i can.
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    Run anavar with the epi.
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    So to be clear for those last 5 weeks id be running test 500/week epi 50mg/day and anavar 50mg PW.
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    So im basically gonna complete change my cycle...i cant do this ridiculous pip anymore. Getting ready in the morning is like carving my thigh with a knife. I dont know if my source isnt legit or what not but this is not acceptable by any means.

    Im thinking just starting with the epi by the 3rd week and once the msten is over put the anavar in.

    Itd basically look like:
    Msten: 14/21/21/21/0/0/0
    Epi 0/0/40/40/50/50/50
    Anavar: 0/0/0/0/50/50/50
    I know its a liver heavy cycle but i dont know how else to salvage this cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazard12 View Post
    So im basically gonna complete change my cycle...i cant do this ridiculous pip anymore. Getting ready in the morning is like carving my thigh with a knife. I dont know if my source isnt legit or what not but this is not acceptable by any means.

    Im thinking just starting with the epi by the 3rd week and once the msten is over put the anavar in.

    Itd basically look like:
    Msten: 14/21/21/21/0/0/0
    Epi 0/0/40/40/50/50/50
    Anavar: 0/0/0/0/50/50/50
    I know its a liver heavy cycle but i dont know how else to salvage this cycle.
    I'm sure your liver will be fine. Take some cycle support and/or Tudca for peace of mind, drink lots of water and NO alcohol.
    Looks like a decent cycle to me
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    Yeah i take cycle support 2 times a day and liv52. My only hope right now is that my legs arent crippled, havent traines them in 2 weeks already and dont know what damage has been caused so far.
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    Day 15: Back n bicep
    Chin ups (lat down machine): 210x8 230x7 240x5 240x6
    Dumbbell rows: 70x8 80x7 80x7
    Pull ups: x9 x9 x9
    Lat cross: 140x8 160x5
    Z bar preacher curl: 75x7 x9 x7
    Dummbell curls 20lb burn.

    Managed to crawl my ass into the gym and did as much as I could. At this point my legs arent only hurting like a bitch but also draining me, sort of like the flu. Im fairly confident stopping the test is the right choice.

    Still I was quite impressed by my lifts considering my status. The pump today was ridiculous i could feel my back completely hard from the chin ups.

    Im starting the epi at 40mg/day tomorrow. Im considering getting more CJC-1295 to run through the rest of my cycle or for the PCT as it has done wonders for my lower back injury and some GI problems I had
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    Yeah the more time passes the more convinced I am quitting the injectables was the right choice. My right leg is still painful as hell and has me limping all over the place. Im going to manage to go to the gym today and hopefully it wont get in the way.

    I do have a question to anyone whos been in a similar situation. When should i go back to doing legs again? Should i wait untill i have no pain at all? My left leg has been ok to walk since Saturday but if i try to do a squat or apply too much force i can still feel some pain where the pin site was.
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    Day 17: Chest/Shoulder/Triceps
    Incline Chest press: 185x8 205x6 215x7 215x7 215x5
    Flat bench press: 185x7 205x6 205x6
    Machine chest flies: 150x9 180x7 180x8 180x8
    Dumbbell shoulder press: 50x10 50x9 50x8
    Tricep cable extension palm up: 160x8 180x10 180x10 180x10
    Machine Shoulder flies: 70xburn 3 sets

    Crazy good workout. In spite of the limping I got extra reps on everything. Even better I worked out semi fasted, allI had was a shake earlier and BCAA during my workout. I can already see some changes in my physique, bigger traps/shoulders. My lifts are definitely going up and I cant wait to start doing legs again. So far i dont have any side effect from anything other than the terrible pip from the test (funny how the injectable is giving me more sides than orals).
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    The BP effect is starting to become noticeable. After drinking a 16oz coffee I got a very mild headache nothing bad at all but a good warning sign.

    This could however get better after the inflammation in my right leg goes down.
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    Day 18: Bicep/Abs/Traps
    Bicep Dumbbell curls 3 sets
    Bicep cable curls 3 sets
    Leg raises Stading obliques with dumbbells 4 sets
    Crunches 4 sets
    Shrugs 3 4 sets

    My back wasnt ready to work it out so I decided to do a accesory lifts day and go for hypertrophy and small muscle stimulation rather than strength. My BP was a bit high I could see my veins popping on my temples and a light headache during my workout. Legs are starting to feel somewhat better, still cant walk but at least its not as painful.
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    Day 19: Shoulder/triceps
    Seated Shoulder press: 50x12 3sets
    One arm upright row: 50x12 3 sets
    Standing short grip shoulder press: 70x12 80x12 x12
    Cable rope tricep ext: 52.5x12 57.5x10 57.5x8 57.5x7
    Superset burn:
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    One arm cable side raise

    Currently at a hotel so I did what i could with the weights they provided. My leg is still not better but I have a bit more range of motion. Im getting more vascular in my arms in spite of having less definition in my abs. The BP issue went down.
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    Day 22: Back/Bicep/Traps
    Weighted Chin ups 45x8 80x6 80x5 80x5
    Barbell bent over rows 155x12 175x9 185x10 195x8
    Squat rack Deadlift(no legs) 245X9 265x7 265x8
    Rope upright row 150x8 170x8
    Bicep dumbbell curl 30x15 35x12 40x8 40x7 40x8
    Rear delt/bicep version upright dbell row 40x8 45x10 50x10

    Felt great! My legs is getting better and my shoulders and traps ate still looking fuller. Theres a different feeling inbetween reps as if my muscles rather stop from pain n not tiredness.
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    Good to hear your leg is getting better. Keep pushing through bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Good to hear your leg is getting better. Keep pushing through bro
    Thanks bro, its definitely been a real pain.
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    Lol those squat rack dead lifts are called rack pulls. Good to see your legs finally healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Lol those squat rack dead lifts are called rack pulls. Good to see your legs finally healing.
    Good to know haha, I definitely know like less than 20% of the actual name o the lifts I do. And thanks now I hope I can get these bitches back in the gym to make up for the lost time.
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    Day 23: Chest/Shoulder/Triceps
    Flat bench:185x8 205x10 215x8 215x7
    Incline Bench (slightly shorter grip):185x5 185x6 185x7
    Barbell shoulder press short grip:135x6 135x7 135x7
    Cable crossover: 60x8 slow reps x3
    Rope tricep cable ext overhead: 110x19 120x12 130x9 130x9

    Changed up the order and got a really different feeling after training. My chest felt almost too pumped I was having trouble sitting my arms comfortably in front of me (not sure if bad or not). My right shoulder joint was a little sore during the training im probably gonna have to deload next time if its still the same.
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    Day 24: Abs/calfs
    Decline crunches x20 4 sets
    Parallel bars leg raise x20 4 sets
    Standing dbell obliques 50x20 60x15 70x12 70x12
    Calf raises 45x burn 4 sets
    Supermans (lower back) xburn 3sets

    Went in thinking i could do some low weights squats...never been so wrong. My vastus lateralis has no elasticity and is still painfull under stress.
    Decided to do some abs to help whenever I do go back to squats.
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    Good job bro.
    How are the calories coming? You eating enough?
    And getting solid work done in the gym?
    You are on a big cycle bro, make it happen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Good job bro.
    How are the calories coming? You eating enough?
    And getting solid work done in the gym?
    You are on a big cycle bro, make it happen!
    Since I havent been able to train legs at all i didnt up my cals as far as I originally intended. Ive been doing around 3500cal on workout days and 3000 on rest days with over 300g of protein a day. Im going for more of a lean bulk/strength gains now since its gonna be a rather short cycle. Work in the gym is solid, making progress every time I step in the gym either weight or reps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazard12 View Post
    Since I havent been able to train legs at all i didnt up my cals as far as I originally intended. Ive been doing around 3500cal on workout days and 3000 on rest days with over 300g of protein a day. Im going for more of a lean bulk/strength gains now since its gonna be a rather short cycle. Work in the gym is solid, making progress every time I step in the gym either weight or reps.
    Good news. Keep kicking a$s bro
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    Day 26: Back/Bicep
    Weighted chin ups: 45x10 80x6 80x6 80x6 45x7
    Bent over Barbell rows: 155x10 175x10 195x9 195x9
    Lat cross 150x9 160x6 160x8
    Superset :
    1. Upright row rear 45x12 50x12 50x12
    2. Dbel shoulder fly 20x10 20x6 20x10
    One arm bicep curls: 40x9 45x8

    Great workout. However my left lat tendon is feeling strained so im probably gonna go for hypertrophy next time. Other than that doing good the pump on my shoulders and traps was just entertaining to say the least.

    Ive been giving it some serious thought and I might go for another 4 weeks of cjc-1295 during my PCT to maintain these gains and help some of the tendon damage im probably gonna build up during the rest of the cycle.
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    Day 28: Rest

    Finished my last cap of M-sten and started to up the dose of Epi to 50mg/day. Tomorrow im adding the 50mg anavar/day PW during workout days. My urine is looking darker today but im attributing it to my reduced water intake yesterday, ill be upping it today and see how it goes. Also today i developed a mild cold which i hope gets better by tomorrow since I need to hit chest.

    So far my review on msten is very positive, wasnt ridiculous explosive gains but a pretty consistent strength and muscle gains. My shoulders really popped up during these past 4 weeks and hopefully the epi and anavar turn out even better. My last cycle had a 40/day epi dose ad yield me some pretty good results.
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    2 Questions real quick for anyone following my log.
    1. Ive been forced to eat a lot of junk food lately (IE pizza) but im still managing to keep my macros and calories in the proper ranges through protein shakes. If im adding fish oils and multivitamins am I hindering gains? Im obviously planning to change this as soon as possible but for the mean time im stuck with this.
    2. Today I still woke up sick (stuffy nose, sore throat, some body aches). I rested the past 2 days and im supposed to hit the gym today, should I just wait untill tomorrow or try to work out anyways?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazard12 View Post
    2 Questions real quick for anyone following my log.
    1. Ive been forced to eat a lot of junk food lately (IE pizza) but im still managing to keep my macros and calories in the proper ranges through protein shakes. If im adding fish oils and multivitamins am I hindering gains? Im obviously planning to change this as soon as possible but for the mean time im stuck with this.
    2. Today I still woke up sick (stuffy nose, sore throat, some body aches). I rested the past 2 days and im supposed to hit the gym today, should I just wait untill tomorrow or try to work out anyways?
    Junk food just means that your going to gain a bit more fat than you would like. I mean do you think power lifters eat healthy all the time? Look at Ct fletcher in his younger day, he ate at McDonald's every day. And I mean every day. So I doubt it would hinder muscle growth a great deal. I twain when I'm sick even when I know I shouldn't so I shouldn't really comment lol
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    Yeah, i decided to wait on it. My right rotator cuff is hurting on some angles so I guess the prudent thing to do is wait.
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    Day 30: Chest/Shoulder/Triceps
    Bench press short grip: 135x12 155x12 175x9
    Bench press:175x8 175x9 175x9
    Incline bench press:135x12 155x10 175x8 155x9
    Decline bench short grip: 155x7 155x7
    Military press: 95x9 95x10 95x8
    Rope tricep overhead: 100x15 110x13 110x12
    Machine side raises 70xburn 4sets

    Deloaded a bit to prevent any further joint problems and ramped up the volume and intensity. Completed all these sets in about the same time as usual.
    I did feel some stregth loss however from the sickness and maybe from being off msten. I am now running anavar50/day and Epi 50/day.
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    Note:
    Damn was that volume effective, I havent been this sore in a while. Also glad I ate over 4k calories yesterday. This however was prompted by the fact that I weighted myself yesterday to 178lb which means either my water weight is fluctuating like crazy or I managed to do some cutting over the past 4 days of no training. I do seem slightly more cut in the mirror when I flex abs which is cool.
    Other than that there isnt much to report, so far in this cycle ive had no issues with anything related to the compounds im taking, its all been shenanigans with the PIP and now a cold. On the plus side my hunger is going kind of rampant. Im trying to keep a grip on it by eating as healthy as possible but I could easily go way beyond 4k calories a day if I wanted to.
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    Day 32: Abs/Quads
    Body squats
    Several different abs exercises for lower/upper/obliques
    Stretching exercises

    Couldn't get to the gym today so I decided to make this my leg rehab day and save hamstrings for deadlifting when I do back. My range of motion is almost back to where it was initially however my quad tendons have some stiffness and pain when stretching with loads. Hopefully I will be able to dead lift properly tomorrow. I also foam rolled my legs to speed up the healing n whatnot.

    As of right now my right rotator cuff is still tender which Im hoping wont interfere with my next back day. Other than that Im keeping my cal intake at around 3800 in spite of my hunger. This might come in handy once I have my 3 day rotation in place since upping calories wont be a problem.
  

  
 

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