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  1. Quote Originally Posted by smshannon001 View Post
    my friend has done a few NPC shows in cali and said they didnt test... sometimes it depends on if it is a national show or a pro qualifier also

    when i did the 2 shows overseas there was an open entry and there was no testing which i was unable to take advantage of at the time!

    the best advice i can give you is to google search the show you are gonna do and there should be information or links... if you need help message me the show location and date and ill see if i can find the answer too

    i was considering doing the local show again next year, but i also want to do a show in the states next august (2014) so i dont want to have to do 2 contest diets LOL
    might just bulk for the next year and do the bench press competition that runs alongside the bodybuilding show in my area (no way ill win with these 2 surgeries, but it will be something to shoot for and keep me on track!)
    im wary of bringing anything over with me on the plane too, who knows what customs in the UAE will think when they see a bunch of bottles of supplements
    I wanna do my first show next year sometime. Just gonna focus on lean bulking right now up until maybe 16 weeks out. I won't go above 8%bf so my prep won't be too hectic. Like I said though, i'll be doing men's physique not bodybuilding
    "Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, an hour or a day, or even a year. If I quit however, it will last forever"
    -Eric Thomas


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Zach Strom View Post
    I wanna do my first show next year sometime. Just gonna focus on lean bulking right now up until maybe 16 weeks out. I won't go above 8%bf so my prep won't be too hectic. Like I said though, i'll be doing men's physique not bodybuilding
    dang 8% for off season is amazing.. if i stay at 15% ill be happy...
    im tryin to get to 225 by next summer though, a far cry from my 178 show weight!
    CURRENT 2014 Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/252748-cherry-poppin-test.html
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by smshannon001 View Post
    dang 8% for off season is amazing.. if i stay at 15% ill be happy...
    im tryin to get to 225 by next summer though, a far cry from my 178 show weight!
    I'm at around 188-200 right now! Wanna get down though to 175-180. Cause I'm still around 11-12%. I have small abdominal bellies so I need to lean the **** out before I get them abs.
    "Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, an hour or a day, or even a year. If I quit however, it will last forever"
    -Eric Thomas

  4. Diet
    Calories: 2750
    Pro: 210g
    Cho: 308g
    Fat: 76g

    Breakfast Lunch Dinner Snacks
    2 large egg(s) Eggs, fried, with nonstick spray 6 ounce(s) cooked, no bone Beef, steak, fried, lean only eaten 1 tablespoon Barbecue (bbq) sauce 1 regular (4 oz) Bagel, with blueberries
    3 large egg white Eggs, white only, raw 1 cup, sliced Cucumber, raw 1 medium steak Beef, steak, fried, lean only eaten cup Granola, homemade
    1 cup, pieces or slices Mushroom, raw medium pepper (2-3/4" long, 2-1/2" across) Green bell pepper, cooked (no salt or fat added) cup, sliced Cucumber, raw 1 cup Greek yogurt, plain, fat free
    cup, regular or quick Oats, uncooked cup, pieces or slices Mushroom, raw cup Green bell pepper, cooked (no salt or fat added) 1 cup, regular or quick Oats, uncooked
    cup, chopped Pepper, sweet, red, raw medium (2-1/4" to 3" across) Potato, baked (no salt added), peel eaten cup Lentils, cooked (no salt or fat added) 1 tablespoon Peanut butter
    6 cherry tomato Tomato, raw 1 cup Spinach, raw cup Red bell pepper, cooked (no salt or fat added) 1 tablespoon Peanut butter
    cup Rice, brown, regular, cooked (no salt or fat added)



    Additional
    30g whey in breakfast oats
    400 cal protein bar
    30g Elite XT in evening oats

    Training: Arms (went late ~10pm and skipped abs, oh well, who needs abs!)

    Havent done an "arm only" day in the last 6 months, always just threw in a few sets after my major muscle groups but for the next 3 weeks im going to give them direct work and see how it goes

    Barbell Curls
    40x20
    60x15
    80x15
    90x12
    110x8
    110x8

    Inc Bench Alt. Dbell Curl
    35x12
    40x10
    45x8
    45x8

    HS Preacher Curl (dropset)
    superset with Light Hammer Curl
    3x no rest

    This was done as a "partner set" where one person does the main lift (in this case HS Preacher Curl) for 10-15 reps, if 15 reps cannot be achieved then weight is dropped and set is continued until 15 is reached.
    The partner is doing the light "pump" movement (17.5 lb hammer curls) until the first person is finished.

    CG Bench (was talking to much with a friend i hadnt seen in a while and should have upped the weight, i will do better next time yall)
    95x20
    135x20
    185x12
    185x12
    185x12

    Tricep V Bar Pushdown 4x160x8-10 reps
    superset with Cable Kickbacks 4x 12 reps (plates were numbered, flicked over a tab to select weight, no pins... i was

    Tricep Dbell Overhead (dropset) 3x80x12 (dropset to 60lbs for 15 more reps)
    superset with Alt Dbell Curl 3x50x10

    Updates:
    INSANE PUMP tonight and endurance at the end of the workout was great. It was a late workout and mentally I was tired, but was still able to pump out 3 sets of 10 with the 50s on Dbell Curl...

    No headaches again whoop whoop

    Shoulder is still a little tender, tomorrow is an off day (taking my family to the fair) and then chest on thursday. We will see how the shoulder hold up for that!

    Still cant figure out how to post my diet like i did the first few days so you will have to continue to look through that mass of text if you're interested!
    CURRENT 2014 Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/252748-cherry-poppin-test.html

  5. Quote Originally Posted by smshannon001 View Post
    Diet

    Still cant figure out how to post my diet like i did the first few days so you will have to continue to look through that mass of text if you're interested!
    I was going to ask you how you posted your diet like that! I'm a big fan of arm day's in the gym but everyone is different. Some people have huge arms and never train them solo. I never argue that compound lifts are where it's at for mass but I do like a little target training once a week.
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  6. I think you should only use iso movements on lacking body parts. Either iso or just do them twice a week. Like calves or forearms. I've done that with lats and it works amazing
    "Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, an hour or a day, or even a year. If I quit however, it will last forever"
    -Eric Thomas

  7. Hope everyone had a good 4th of July. I smashed some fools in a marshmallow fight haha, its good to be back in the USA!

    a quick recap:
    wednesday 3rd OFF, went to the fair with my family, stayed away from all the chocolate covered deep fried foods and went with beef brisket
    thursday 4th: Chest day (shoulder was still bothering me on incline so i just did a bunch of sets of 185) at the end of my workout i wanted to see how much the shoulder could take and only got up to 95lb dumbbells, hopefully its good to go by next week. Diet was crap, burrito, beer, pizza, the usual 4th of july binge
    Friday 5th: ate my normal meals so far today and will be hitting back and hamstrings in a little bit, was gonna weigh in but might wait until sunday after the carnage my body went through yesterday haha
    CURRENT 2014 Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/252748-cherry-poppin-test.html

  8. This is really a good log man. We really need to get more people following it. Bump city! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  9. Training: Back and Hammys

    workout out with my buddy on the 1.2g of test, had to dig deep inside myself to keep up with him haha

    Lat Pull (compound set with CG standing Lat Pull 3x15)
    165x15
    180x15
    210x8
    210x8
    210x8

    V Grip Lat Pull
    165x12
    180x10
    180x10

    Barbell Row
    185x12
    225x8
    245x7
    245x7

    HS High Row
    190x15
    280x12
    370x5 (biggest cheat reps ever)
    strip set from 370 to 100 (one plate at a time, one arm at a time)

    Seated Cable Row
    160x15
    180x12
    180x12
    180x12

    Lying Leg Curl
    90x15
    105x12
    105x12
    105x11

    Seated Leg Curl
    180x20
    210x15
    210x15
    210x15

    Updates:
    Lower back has a constant tight feeling the last few days... almost sore, did 12g of taurine today but im not seeing that much difference
    Definitely feeling increased endurance in the gym and between set recovery is faster
    clothing is tight again (had to buy new belts when i dieted for the contest) and
    my GF is comin into town on monday for the next 2 months so ill start doing some LISS at night and maybe some hill sprints of days off from the gym so i dont get too fat from these extra calories, but since this is still a bulk im not concerned with fat gain, just wanna keep it min to average
    CURRENT 2014 Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/252748-cherry-poppin-test.html

  10. Diet 7/05

    Calories: 2100
    Pro: 188g
    Cho: 185g
    Fat: 67g

    Date Breakfast Lunch Dinner Snacks
    07/05/13 1 cup, regular or quick Oats, uncooked

    1 tablespoon Barbecue (bbq) sauce

    1 tablespoon Barbecue (bbq) sauce

    2 slice Avocado, raw




    6 ounce(s) cooked, no bone Beef, steak, fried, lean only eaten

    6 ounce(s) cooked, no bone Beef, steak, fried, lean only eaten

    1 large steak Beef, steak, grilled or broiled, lean only eaten




    1 regular slice Bread, 100% whole wheat

    1 tablespoon Coconut oil

    1 cup Lettuce, green or red leaf




    cup Lentils, cooked (no salt or fat added)

    1 medium Plantain, ripe, raw

    1 tablespoon Peanut butter




    cup Rice, brown, regular, cooked (no salt or fat added)



    medium potato (5" long) Sweet potato (yam), baked (no salt added), peel eaten








    6 cherry tomato Tomato, raw



    Additional:
    30g whey in breakfast oats
    30g whey post workout
    30g Elite XT before bed with peanut butter
    2x 200cal Oh Yeah Protein bars
    CURRENT 2014 Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/252748-cherry-poppin-test.html

  11. Are you using a diet tracking application of some sort?

  12. Jeeze! posting at 4am!? And PCT is going very well when using clomid, daa. throwing in the AI next week. still using cycle and liver supports plus my normal supps. Going very well. Strength is still up
    "Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, an hour or a day, or even a year. If I quit however, it will last forever"
    -Eric Thomas

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Axillist View Post
    Are you using a diet tracking application of some sort?
    Yeah I use SuperTracker put out by the USDA... Keeps telling me I need to set a weight goal that is healthy LOL I tried to put in 225lbs as my goal and it gave me an error message
    It's easy to use and keeps a history and shows vitamin/mineral breakdown as well
    CURRENT 2014 Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/252748-cherry-poppin-test.html

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Zach Strom View Post
    Jeeze! posting at 4am!? And PCT is going very well when using clomid, daa. throwing in the AI next week. still using cycle and liver supports plus my normal supps. Going very well. Strength is still up
    4am like a boss

    Naw I'm in Cali so it was midnight or 1am when I posted (took a 2 hr nap yesterday after driving an hour home early in the morning from stayin at my friends in San Diego)

    Got shoulders later today, might be working out with a friend again, hopefully cause I wanted to see if I could start adding some lbs to my dbell shoulder press
    CURRENT 2014 Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/252748-cherry-poppin-test.html

  15. Ah Cali you lucky mother ****er. I'm across the country in Connecticut! Got a pool party tomorrow for a younger friend who's going to Boston University so you better believe, the aesthetics are going to be in full force. People gonna be chasin their drinks with some mirin
    "Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, an hour or a day, or even a year. If I quit however, it will last forever"
    -Eric Thomas

  16. Yours truly is looking at competing in an NPC show next year some time. It'd be a debut for me. I just want to prep until then. Any advice dude for a new competitor?
    "Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, an hour or a day, or even a year. If I quit however, it will last forever"
    -Eric Thomas

  17. I'll definitely have to look into that tracker for my next log. I've been maintaining a diet this pro bodybuilder at my gym told me about. Lost about 15 pounds in 2 months and I'm totally pumped to start the same stack you are doing in August. I've been contemplating doing low dose SD instead of Epi though. I have pretty bad joints as is. I'm not a huge fan of SD but I stockpiled that crap before the ban.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Zach Strom View Post
    Yours truly is looking at competing in an NPC show next year some time. It'd be a debut for me. I just want to prep until then. Any advice dude for a new competitor?
    Well if you are going to stay lean (under 12%) year round then keep lean bulking and keep your bf % under 15 or it might be annoying and painful to diet for the 12-14 weeks
    if you stay at 12% (with minimal cardio) then your pre contest diet should be pretty smooth cause once you add in cardio and play with your carbs you will lean out pretty quick
    i guess you just gotta find out how carbs effect your physique and your training, but i think you mentioned you were going to do a physique competition so you wont need to "bulk" and add a bunch of mass

    Quote Originally Posted by Axillist View Post
    I'll definitely have to look into that tracker for my next log. I've been maintaining a diet this pro bodybuilder at my gym told me about. Lost about 15 pounds in 2 months and I'm totally pumped to start the same stack you are doing in August. I've been contemplating doing low dose SD instead of Epi though. I have pretty bad joints as is. I'm not a huge fan of SD but I stockpiled that crap before the ban.
    theres many online free trackers out there but in college we had to log our meals for a week as part of an assignment in a nutrition course so im used to it
    2 of my 3 friends who used SD had flare ups and lethargy like none other so be careful!
    they usually stopped at 3 weeks and did 20mg throughout
    CURRENT 2014 Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/252748-cherry-poppin-test.html

  19. Training: Shoulders (a lil traps thrown in at the end)

    Seated Dbell Press (shoulder felt good!)
    65x15
    65x15
    75x12
    85x8
    90x6
    90x6

    Seated Side Raise 3x35x15 (same lift that tweaked my shoulder last week so dropped weight a bit)
    compound set with Plate Upright Rows 3x45x12

    Leaning Side Raise 3x35x12

    HS Sho Press
    1st Set: Stripset 170x12 150x?? 100x??
    2nd Set: Stripset 200x7 150x?? 100??

    (shoulders dead)

    Rear Delt Deck 3x80x20

    Barbell Shrugs
    225x20
    315x15
    365x15

    Update:
    Lower Back is still tight, and no amount of taurine is helping LOL, but its just a minor inconvenience right now
    Shoulder held up pretty well today, only rare clicking and locking
    Best part of today was i didnt even notice my left elbow which usually gives me trouble on any pushing movements (9g fish oil + IML JointRx + joint formula in orange triad + lots of H2O)
    neighbors invited us over for carne asada and they ordered the UFC fights tonight (not really my thing, but hey... carne asada is my thing!)

    went to the farmers market and saw sweet potatoes (3 diff types) for $1.50/lb (and being the bargain shopper i am i got 6 lbs) and was excited as the grocery stores are usually $1.89-$2/lb
    BUT
    went to a new market for the first time today and... they had the same 3 types of sweet potato for .... $0.99/lb FML ... epic fail
    CURRENT 2014 Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/252748-cherry-poppin-test.html

  20. I think it'd be easier for me to stay lean year round, that way when im say 16-12 weeks out it won't be as bad as if I was above 12-13%. I could shred up real fast. Just gonna try and focus a lean bulk I think. Carbs are my killer normally. But once I drop them, I cut up so quickly
    "Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, an hour or a day, or even a year. If I quit however, it will last forever"
    -Eric Thomas

  21. Nice job with those shoulder presses! Good weight! I've done a few runs with SD and I always get great gains. I just hate the sides more than anything. With Epi my joints were sore but I still felt really good. I still look forward to seeing how the Epi/Tren treats you.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Axillist View Post
    Nice job with those shoulder presses! Good weight! I've done a few runs with SD and I always get great gains. I just hate the sides more than anything. With Epi my joints were sore but I still felt really good. I still look forward to seeing how the Epi/Tren treats you.
    As far as I can compare it to my last Epi run:
    Strength/endurance is increasing earlier (attributed to the tren)
    "ON" feeling in the gym and during some of the day came faster than epi solo (also dosing epi higher this time)
    Still waiting for the 24/7 ON feeling
    Lethargy hasn't kicked in (first week was obviously jet lag) but week 3 was where epi gave lethargy last time
    CURRENT 2014 Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/252748-cherry-poppin-test.html

  23. Trust me dude, that lethargy will kick in bad when you up that Epi dose enough...it was such a bitch haha I was always tired and out of it. Going to a pool party today for a friend. Gonna drown everyone in a bit of mirin'
    "Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, an hour or a day, or even a year. If I quit however, it will last forever"
    -Eric Thomas

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Zach Strom View Post
    Trust me dude, that lethargy will kick in bad when you up that Epi dose enough...it was such a bitch haha I was always tired and out of it. Going to a pool party today for a friend. Gonna drown everyone in a bit of mirin'
    Flexin n Textin bro!



    Diet (yesterday 6/7)

    same type of meals as usual except the carne asada for dinner cause our neighbors just got back in town... they used thin cut sirloin for the carne and corn tortillas and homemade guacamole (gotta love havin mexican neighbors!)

    Calories: 2650
    Pro: 252g
    Cho: 242g
    Fat: 74g

    Additional
    30g whey in oats for breakfast
    30g whey post workout
    200 cal Oh Yeah protein bar (im getting addicted to these lil bars)
    CURRENT 2014 Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/252748-cherry-poppin-test.html

  25. yesterday off, stepdads birthday so just kinda hung around the house and people came over had some grilled steak and chicken

    today hitting Quad dominant legs and picking my GF up at the airport (gonna suck to sit in the car for 3 hours after legs though!)
    CURRENT 2014 Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/252748-cherry-poppin-test.html
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