I IM'd some of the guys who replied in the thread and they were very positive about it.
Originally I was just going to do standard
Clomid/Nova protocol w/vitamin C and Lean Xtreme for anti costs + continuing my Nutropin Gh through out.
Honestly by day 8-9 since last shot blood levels are extremely low, that I will argue you on. So starting PCT at say day 9/10 vs day 14 is almost semantics.
Can I post the link here or shoot you an IM?
Guys do me a favor, lets just discuss this and keep tones civil as if we were sitting at the bar shooting the sht.
The Internet tends to make people get all superior sounding and is definitely a pet peeve of mine. Let's discus not shove our thoughts or have any negative tone.
And that above statement is not directed at anyone, just know PCT protocols are a hot button topic and guys tend to start flaming each other. So let's act like men and put our brains together and discuss.
That said, when you check out the link let me know what you think.
What was your last cycle and pct like?
I wasn't flaming and didn't mean any disrespect by any means. Post the link up here if you have enough posts it shouldn't be a problem and if it is send it to me via pm.
If you look into half lives of test after 8 days you will have more than half of your on cycle blood levels. Look at it like this if you test levels are for example 4000ng/dl after 10 days you'll still have 2000ng/dl which is still far too high to restart your boys.
I'm starting pct for a sd, test, tren and winny cycle soon but im actually waiting 17 days from my last pin.
You have covered your bases tho as your running post cycle for 6 weeks so you will have plenty of time even if your first week or so is wasted.
Ok last shot was last Wed. Will post up some progress pics this week.
Approximately +17lbs and a lot leaner.
Finishing the 12-14 days with continued use of 1-T Tren and Winnie @50mg. I will run hcg for last 10-days, before a I start Clomid/Nolva etc.
Chest today, was able to put 315 up 3 sets at 5/4/4 reps.
Definitely curious to see how I do on this PCT after nearly 4+ months of AAS.
Yeah good luck man I start either Sunday or Monday. But I think it'll be a walk in the park
But I got lipids, metabolic panel, estradiol, prolactin, test /free test etc.
I will continue Gh throughout PCT, that should help keep gains.
Good luck with the PCT. I'm curious to see how the HCG treats you when taken during.
Just going to hit up the balls with 750ius on last day of cycle at day-12. THEN start PCT.
Standard clomid/Nolva PCT.
Clomid at 50mg for 7-days, then 25mg for 7-days
Nolva @20mg for 6-weeks
Using Core Test, AromaX, Lean Xtreme, AnaBeta supplement mix during PCT and then will add SHBG inhibitors at week-6 (Activate etc.) when bound up test is at max. Will drop DAA at week 8.
Blood work at week 12.
Having pharmaceutical grade GH should REALLY help this PCT be successful, anyone have any input on that aspect? Ended up going (will end up going) thru 9-kits or nearly 1000 ius of growth. :-)
7-days have passed since last shot, still on Winnie, and 1-T Tren at 5 pumps a day.
Dude my libido is so efn through the roof right now. Almost more so than before, didn't expect this.
I have noticed a bit more lethargy creeping in during the day. Also sleeping MUCH heavier now.
Ok here is what I looked like a few days ago at end of cycle, these pics are first AM flat, no food; oh and I busted out one of my old competition suits. Definitely not competition worthy, BUT given I have done NO cardio, and have been eating nearly 4k a day being this lean just goes to show how much easier it is using AAS vs. the natural way.
I dieted for 6-mos for my last show and was probably 1-1.5% lower in bodyfat than these pics, but NOWHERE near this full or huge looking. Honestly, glad I did the natural route for 14-years (I really don't count the 2-3 Hdrol/Mdrol crap PH cycles 5-6 years ago; let's face it real test + real GH = REAL DEAL.)
That said, work and diet are a must. Too many guys on here just under estimate the power of food vs. gear. The key is eating during PCT, so let's see how much I can keep.
I focused on growing my lats, chest, and biceps on this cycle. My last competition those were the items the judges said I needed to improve on. My strengths (in my opinion and what judges have told me in the past) are my delts, back (thickness and symmetry), quads/hams (for a taller guy) and glutes.
Anyway, always room for improvement, will continue to do so. PCT starting Sun/Mon (days 11-12 since last test cyp shot), and then two sets of blood work at week-7 and week-13.
All totaled I started on April 21st, and therefore did a 16-week cycle with 32-shots of test cyp. I started at 400mg a week, meh didn't feel much by week-5, bumped to 500mgs and still didn't "feel" much, then went to 600mg and BOOM, felt it. So maybe my stuff is underdosed, but I have plenty for many cycles ahead. I used GH throughout.
I started at 197 and per my bodyfat calipers was at 10-11% bf
I ended at 215/217 and calipers showed 7%
So irrespective of whether those BF% #s were correct, the baseline before and # at the end show my body dropped large amounts of fat and put on 17-20lbs in that period. How much is water, muscle and fat, is very hard to determine in my mind. This is where this sht get's qualitative.
I am happy.
Beastly man! Looking hella jacked.
Deff looking jacked man. Cycle was Definitely a success. Now to keeping dem gainz!
Wow man, serious size added there! Went back and looked at your beginning pics. Size all over, and your legs blew up. Solid work bro. Love your pct layout too.
Day by Day, we get better and better! Till’ we can’t be beat – Won’t Be Beat!
Ok so 9-days from last cyp shot, or 13-days since last two shots total.
I got the following blood work today:
Test, total and free
Lipids (really curious about this)
Full metabolic panel
I really want to see how much test is in my body at day 9. If it is below 1000 ng I am starting full PCT on Sunday.
If it is still about 1000 I will make a judgement call on when to start and not start Sunday. I had NO hormones in my body during blood work. It has been 24hrs since last transdermal 1T Tren Application and 50mg Winnie tab.
You're looking jacked as hell. Hope your bloods come in how you want them. I know it's been a long cycle, so your body has to be pretty worn out.
Dilemma guys, wife just surprised me with tickets to California to see my best friend and his wife. Flying out Sept 13th, and returning 10-days later. This will be SMACK dab in the middle of my pct.
We will probably get about 4 workouts in total. She is a figure competitor also, and totally know everything I am doing, no secrets between us. (Sht she wants to do GH and Anavar ha)
WHAT THE FK SHOULD I DO?
Haven't started PCT yet, was going to start this week. Our trip would be right in the middle of week 3.
I can travel with all my supplements, that's not the issue. But I won't have GH, or really hit the gym much to keep pushing my body to not give up gains. We will probably drink a few nights too.
UGH. She figured I could just continue pct on the road, I have pharmacy Clomid and Nolva so they are tabs. :-)
FK, should I just drop the Winnie Monday, and just run test until the day I fly out, and let those 10-days trail me off into when I get back and can do a uninterrupted PCT.
This is a tough call, REALLY looking for input guys.
Help me brainstorm??